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Old 06-21-2016, 08:34 AM   #12
Rojaf
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Default Re: orlando shooting

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Another issue is your seemingly hyper-individualist stance to this issue, which disallows you from seeing the bigger picture. You observe that one Christian happened to murder someone, perhaps in an abortion clinic bombing, and say "aha, Christians can be just as radical as Muslims," which completely ignores all the statistical realities surrounding this issue. For the most part, Christians that murder in the name of their religion are outliers among the Christian population, which is clearly demonstrated by the terrorist stats. Islamists and Jihadists are not outliers among the Muslim population; They make up too much of a sizable portion of the Muslim population to be so.
so when the bulk of transgender murders happen in south america, you're willing to overlook the fact that south america is mainly christian because it's individual hate crimes as opposed to a single person committing a mass shooting hate crime.... sounds like you're the one hung up on individuals.

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a horrific and unforgivable thing, but not a massacre.
again, apparently multiple people have to die at once for you to care.

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I have several issues with this data you've provided, particularly in the context of the discussion. First, what does this have to do with religiously motivated terrorism?
it was a counter argument to this:

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Simply put, the modernized version of Christian beliefs is superior to the middle-age esque Islamic beliefs and Western culture is superior to Middle-eastern culture.
which is only true when you look at first world countries. look at countries in the second or third world, or developing countries, and your statement falls apart.

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Muslims in much greater frequency are killing people for religious purposes, which I demonstrated with the terrorist statistics(over 90% to be specific).
those are statistics from one month. if you use a short enough time period you can make any point you want.

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Muslims in just the month of January killed over 1000 people, which is a little less than half of the LGBT murders that spanned over the last 8 years.
you're comparing deaths in the middle east, where there are wars going on, with transgender people in brazil just living their daily lives.

i'm not saying that the stuff in the middle east doesn't count, just that you're comparing apples and oranges to prove your point. which again, doesnt make sense.

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lus the issue is not whether Muslims or Christians are capable of being violent, but whether the violence is religiously motivated. Pointing to violent crime stats in regions that are predominantly Christian, doesn't necessarily tell us whether it was religiously motivated or not. The terrorism stats demonstrate this, since Islamic terrorists or Christian terrorists(which are extraordinarily rare) kill almost exclusively for religious purposes.
what do you think motivates gay and transgender killings in south america?
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