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Read this as "laptop shooting" .. was reminded of the guy who shot up his daughter's laptop, thinking it was more of the same.

Anyway, go with what you want, first off. But I wouldn't base my decision on whether they include a bag, backpack, or whatever with it.

I say Lenovo is pretty solid. Can't really go wrong with it. Really though any of those should be fine.

I wouldn't recommend refurbished laptops (or desktops for that matter) either, unless you're really strapped for cash although a couple others are going to chime in that they're okay or better than non-refurbished/etc/etc... (No, they're not).

I wouldn't recommend Asus because I've had a bad experience with an Asus motherboard (but this was Desktop, not Laptop, and was a few years back, so one of the laptops of today may be fine -- I dunno).