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**UserNameGoesHere** · 07-15-2008, 01:16 AM

Interesting. Suppose I have three cards, a Jack, a Queen, and a King.

You are to choose one of them.

Now, it doesn't matter which one you choose as two will remain, and each of the ones that remains, while not chosen, was still a choice, correct? So even if you declined to play the game entirely (hence not freely choosing any of them), they would still all three be choices, and this is independent of your free will choosing one or more than one or none of them at all or any other combination, I think.

If it can follow that a choice is independent of the chooser, it should follow that one can have free will independent of determinism.

Or I may just be very confused.

07-15-2008, 01:16 AM	#23
UserNameGoesHere FFR Veteran Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 1,114	Re: Free Will vs. Determinism Interesting. Suppose I have three cards, a Jack, a Queen, and a King. You are to choose one of them. Now, it doesn't matter which one you choose as two will remain, and each of the ones that remains, while not chosen, was still a choice, correct? So even if you declined to play the game entirely (hence not freely choosing any of them), they would still all three be choices, and this is independent of your free will choosing one or more than one or none of them at all or any other combination, I think. If it can follow that a choice is independent of the chooser, it should follow that one can have free will independent of determinism. Or I may just be very confused.