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Forum: TWG Archives 07-27-2021, 11:30 PM
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Re: TWG 200 Game Thread: Dichotomy

@charu
I'm still able to talk with goldstinger in our neighborhood chat
Forum: TWG Archives 07-27-2021, 11:28 PM
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Posted By reuben_tate
Re: TWG 200 Game Thread: Dichotomy

My reads list from last phase was moreso a bunch of gut reads that I felt pressured into giving for self-pres purposes. I spent probably like at most 10 seconds per person on that list. The darker...
Forum: TWG Archives 07-26-2021, 09:54 PM
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Re: TWG 200 Game Thread: Dichotomy

darker green = stronger town lean than the lighter green
Forum: TWG Archives 07-26-2021, 09:51 PM
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Posted By reuben_tate
Re: TWG 200 Game Thread: Dichotomy

Sorry. If you quote the post, you can see the color names.

red = scum lean
yellow = null
lime = town lean
green = town
Forum: TWG Archives 07-26-2021, 09:48 PM
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Posted By reuben_tate
Re: TWG 200 Game Thread: Dichotomy

1) roundbox
2) Hakulyte
3) Shadow_God_10
4) Funnygurl555
5) SubaruPoptart
6) T-Force
7) gold stinger
8) mellonxcollie
9) FreezinIce
10) XelNya
Forum: TWG Archives 07-26-2021, 09:34 PM
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Posted By reuben_tate
Re: TWG 200 Game Thread: Dichotomy

I played a major role in pressuring and trying to get information from players in the other game (especially gold stinger) and trying to coordinate things so that we could have more information to...
Forum: TWG Archives 07-26-2021, 09:21 PM
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Posted By reuben_tate
Re: TWG 200 Game Thread: Dichotomy

This phase sucks and I'm tired. Bugkid's posts have been looking good and I don't care much for Storn's posts. Storn
Forum: TWG Archives 07-26-2021, 08:41 PM
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Posted By reuben_tate
Re: TWG 200 Game Thread: Dichotomy

I think you'll find that this is mostly an issue with myself as a person as opposed to anything alignment-indicative. If it seems that my opinion is leaning a particular way, then feel free to hold...
Forum: TWG Archives 07-26-2021, 08:19 PM
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Posted By reuben_tate
Re: TWG 200 Game Thread: Dichotomy

The purpose of that phrase is to indicate that these two seemingly diametrically-opposed things can be true at the same time. It's analogous to "Hope for the best, plan for the worst" but instead its...
Forum: TWG Archives 07-26-2021, 08:11 PM
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Posted By reuben_tate
Re: TWG 200 Game Thread: Dichotomy

I disagree with this sentiment in general. There are a myriad of possibilities for this game, but some of them are much more "likely" than others. Some combination of Occam's Razor and some kind of...
Forum: TWG Archives 07-26-2021, 07:59 PM
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Posted By reuben_tate
Re: TWG 200 Game Thread: Dichotomy

Some thoughts I have on some people:

-fatfuck: town lean. I believe they were the first to propose the insta idea and despite things not working out as intended regarding that, I believe it was a...
Forum: TWG Archives 07-26-2021, 07:32 PM
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Posted By reuben_tate
Re: TWG 200 Game Thread: Dichotomy

I believed (past tense) that there was likely a wolf in the other game. I thought gold/log was a possible pairing (despite the fact that gold started the wagon on log), but now that gold has...
Forum: TWG Archives 07-26-2021, 07:29 PM
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Posted By reuben_tate
Re: TWG 200 Game Thread: Dichotomy

I'm currently under the assumption that everyone who dies (wolves included), goes to the 2nd game*. In which case, the consequence of "moving to another separate game" is very much different than...
Forum: TWG Archives 07-26-2021, 07:22 PM
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Posted By reuben_tate
Re: TWG 200 Game Thread: Dichotomy

To give some context to some of my earlier posts, I believed that there is a non-neglible chance that there are a pair of wolves in the other game. In particular, I was thinking that log and gold...
Forum: TWG Archives 07-26-2021, 06:59 PM
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Posted By reuben_tate
Re: TWG 200 Game Thread: Dichotomy

Gonna try to set up my computer here and I'll share a bit about my thoughts on the insta. I've been mostly using my phone this time and it's been ass lol
Forum: TWG Archives 07-26-2021, 06:57 PM
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Posted By reuben_tate
Re: TWG 200 Game Thread: Dichotomy

I somewhat agree with some of these points but we seem to be arriving at different conclusions. You're right that there is a huge lack of information in this game but my takeaway from that is that we...
Forum: TWG Archives 07-26-2021, 03:26 AM
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Posted By reuben_tate
Re: TWG 200 Game Thread: Dichotomy

goldstinger

dammit, I forgot the @ in the previous post. Please take a look.
Forum: TWG Archives 07-26-2021, 03:25 AM
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Posted By reuben_tate
Re: TWG 200 Game Thread: Dichotomy

Maybe I'm dumb or maybe my memory is bad, but can you elaborate on what you mean by this? Maybe it might help me understand better if you phrase it as "If subaru flips green, then it's very likely...
Forum: TWG Archives 07-26-2021, 03:15 AM
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Posted By reuben_tate
Re: TWG 200 Game Thread: Dichotomy

@subaru, goldstinger

Three votes are needed for insta in your game. If we decide to do a non-logman insta and assuming logman remains inactive, that would require a self-vote from one of you. Are...
Forum: TWG Archives 07-26-2021, 02:38 AM
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Posted By reuben_tate
Re: TWG 200 Game Thread: Dichotomy

The current working theory is that if you die in the 2nd game, you die for real and are flipped. This has yet to be confirmed though so some of us want to have an insta occur in the other game so...
Forum: TWG Archives 07-25-2021, 09:12 PM
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Posted By reuben_tate
Re: TWG 200 Game Thread: Dichotomy

As far as indicating cross-posting, it seems that most of us have already adopted the "bold @" system which I think suffices.

I agree that using quotes should be used when applicable (even if it's...
Forum: TWG Archives 07-25-2021, 09:08 PM
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Posted By reuben_tate
Re: TWG 200 Game Thread: Dichotomy

My guess is the latter. Other than some OOTC things (1-on-1 chats and neighborhoods and maybe wolfchat), it seems the games are independent. My guess is that the only other thing that is not...
Forum: TWG Archives 07-25-2021, 08:11 PM
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Posted By reuben_tate
Re: TWG 200 Game Thread: Dichotomy

If we go with the insta-in-other-game route, who are we thinking? Fatfuck/plop suggested logman which I don't take issue with. Are there other candidates people are thinking of and/or reasons why...
Forum: TWG Archives 07-25-2021, 08:05 PM
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Posted By reuben_tate
Re: TWG 200 Game Thread: Dichotomy

Close. If you give a shit in one game, then you take a shit in the other.
Forum: TWG Archives 07-25-2021, 07:19 PM
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Posted By reuben_tate
Re: TWG 200 Game Thread: Dichotomy

@subaru

Here is the gif I promised.

https://i.stack.imgur.com/RNaYO.gif
Forum: TWG Archives 07-25-2021, 07:11 PM
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Posted By reuben_tate
Re: TWG 200 Game Thread: Dichotomy

Also, throw up a shot every time you don't understand something in the other game.

Dichotomy.
Forum: TWG Archives 07-25-2021, 07:10 PM
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Posted By reuben_tate
Re: TWG 200 Game Thread: Dichotomy

Working with just the threads and dm'ing people on discord to "look at the thread" is probably more efficient than trying to keep up with two threads and a discord game chat.

I should note that...
Forum: TWG Archives 07-25-2021, 07:05 PM
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Posted By reuben_tate
Re: TWG 200 Game Thread: Dichotomy

Agreed, it'll make less places to read stuff and it's better imho if posts/information is viewable by all (which is not the case for discord game chats)
Forum: TWG Archives 07-25-2021, 07:00 PM
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Posted By reuben_tate
Re: TWG 200 Game Thread: Dichotomy

Yeah, that's the one. The way you worded your initial response to the idea was a bit odd, so thanks for elaborating.
Forum: TWG Archives 07-25-2021, 05:31 PM
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Posted By reuben_tate
Re: TWG 200 Game Thread: Dichotomy

I mentioned something similar to this earlier in the thread but you didn't seem to want to really entertain the idea then. Did something change between then and now?

In any case, since there is...
Forum: TWG Archives 07-25-2021, 04:52 PM
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Posted By reuben_tate
Re: TWG 200 Game Thread: Dichotomy

@subaru

Yeah, I assumed that copy/pasting text logs were ok as implied by that rule about being allowed to fake text logs. I think the only rule regarding sharing text logs is that we can't...
Forum: TWG Archives 07-25-2021, 04:38 PM
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Posted By reuben_tate
Re: TWG 200 Game Thread: Dichotomy

Galaxy brain thought regarding the pairings: note the labels on the left and right side of the horizontal axis are the same. Same for the up/down side of the vertical axis. This indicates that the...
Forum: TWG Archives 07-25-2021, 04:31 PM
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Posted By reuben_tate
Re: TWG 200 Game Thread: Dichotomy

Nice, the unvote in the 2nd game counts.

I'm still of the opinion that there should be an insta in the 2nd game so that we are more confident about the structure of the overall game so that we can...
Forum: TWG Archives 07-25-2021, 04:04 PM
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Posted By reuben_tate
Re: TWG 200 Game Thread: Dichotomy

@goldstinger

It's not even clear yet if votes within the mirrored game (i.e. a player in the mirrored game voting for someone else in the mirrored game) count this phase (let alone outside of it)...
Forum: TWG Archives 07-25-2021, 02:46 PM
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Posted By reuben_tate
Re: TWG 200 Game Thread: Dichotomy

I was also thinking of having instas in the mirrored game occur to give the main game more info (especially this phase so we can confirm what actually happens if someone dies in the mirrored game),...
Forum: TWG Archives 07-25-2021, 02:19 PM
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Posted By reuben_tate
Re: TWG 200 Game Thread: Dichotomy

I don't understand what incentive someone would have to kill off their own neighbor (over a non-neighbor that is).

To explain the situation with goldstinger and I, he spoke to me in a way in a way...
Forum: TWG Archives 07-25-2021, 04:19 AM
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Posted By reuben_tate
Re: TWG 200 Game Thread: Dichotomy

Yup, there was some neighbor discussion already in that discord chat. Sorry, ignore what I said two posts ago.
Forum: TWG Archives 07-25-2021, 04:16 AM
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Posted By reuben_tate
Re: TWG 200 Game Thread: Dichotomy

By some people, I mean shadow and dbp. I just noticed there is some unread gamechat in the discord I missed, so I might need to retract this statement, my bad.
Forum: TWG Archives 07-25-2021, 04:10 AM
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Posted By reuben_tate
Re: TWG 200 Game Thread: Dichotomy

It also seems that some people here a bit confident regarding the structure of these neighborhoods. This seems to indicate that some OOTC has occured prior to this day phase in regards to this (e.g....
Forum: TWG Archives 07-25-2021, 03:54 AM
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Posted By reuben_tate
Re: TWG 200 Game Thread: Dichotomy

Although it's a reasonable idea, I'm not entirely convinced this is necessarily a double elimination setup. If the other game was a true "mirror" of this one, then a death in the mirrored game would...
Forum: TWG Archives 07-23-2021, 09:52 PM
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Forum: TWG Archives 07-23-2021, 09:41 PM
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Posted By reuben_tate
Re: TWG 200 Game Thread: Dichotomy

Sorry, I thought I would have some time before eod to catch up and be around, but I'm still out of the house at the moment.

I don't like choof's behavior, but that's moreso a thing of feeling like...
Forum: TWG Archives 07-23-2021, 08:24 AM
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Forum: TWG Archives 07-23-2021, 08:12 AM
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Posted By reuben_tate
Re: TWG 200 Game Thread: Dichotomy

Ok, one last thing about the charts and I'll shut up about them lol.

My answer to question six in the survey (the good/evil/neutral question) is in agreement with the row of the 2nd chart (i.e. I...
Forum: TWG Archives 07-23-2021, 07:55 AM
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Posted By reuben_tate
Re: TWG 200 Game Thread: Dichotomy

You were the best middle-man <3
Forum: TWG Archives 07-23-2021, 07:49 AM
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Posted By reuben_tate
Re: TWG 200 Game Thread: Dichotomy

The "heavily" here is in reference to "people completing the survey" = "people on the chart". It sounds like you're suggesting that either those two sets of people being the same is a coincidence or...
Forum: TWG Archives 07-23-2021, 07:45 AM
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Posted By reuben_tate
Re: TWG 200 Game Thread: Dichotomy

If I have thoughts about the graphs, I will share them. I don't want to die and have those thoughts go unsaid if they actually happen to be important in the future.

I've already mentioned (twice)...
Forum: TWG Archives 07-23-2021, 07:25 AM
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Posted By reuben_tate
Re: TWG 200 Game Thread: Dichotomy

Probably isn't the case, but it's gonna bother me if I don't say anything about it:

There's always the possibility that the survey responses were somehow used in determining the setup/roles for...
Forum: TWG Archives 07-23-2021, 07:19 AM
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Posted By reuben_tate
Re: TWG 200 Game Thread: Dichotomy

I did say a lot of things about the chart. Was there something in particular I said about it that you didn't like? Or was it like...just the general vibe of the post that felt off?
Forum: TWG Archives 07-23-2021, 07:17 AM
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