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danceflashrevo 07-22-2015 11:25 PM

jTWG LXXVIII - Welcoe to | Pst Gae
 
The game is over, town wins.

Sorry I'm not YoshL and I don't have much time so I'm gonna just throw this together so that you and I can discuss the game we just played.

1. AraakiAase - mafia role cop, lost at end game.
2. ston42 - vt, won at end game
3. danceflashrevo - Maa Goo lynched Day 2
4. kia1000 - vt, won at end game
5. psychoangel691 - Vania Toe lynched Day 1
6. _Zenh_ - vt, won at end game
7. hesunn - jailkeep, won at end game
8. XeNa - vt, won at end game
9. rube_ate - Docor killed Night 2

i'll do an analysis later, i'm doing stuff rn. gg all :3/

P.S. shoutouts to zenith for the new profile thanks baby i love it <333

danceflashrevo 07-22-2015 11:28 PM

Re: jTWG LXVIII - Welcoe to | Pst Gae
 
self analysis. lol sorry ethan, i feel bad. i got pinged out early from tone and i tilted from there. i guess i should work on actual content for posts. as a jtwg learning experience i learned a lot of how i should play. as performance, eh i could do so much better. once again, thank you ethan for being a nice guy ^^

wolf chat: http://www.quicktopic.com/51/H/HeiPKvcufm2N ethan provided good commentary as to what he was thinking.

i'll let yoshl decide mvp.

thesunfan 07-22-2015 11:45 PM

Re: jTWG LXVIII - Welcoe to | Pst Gae
 
gg maybe I'll tell ethan what his tell is someday

thesunfan 07-22-2015 11:52 PM

Re: jTWG LXVIII - Welcoe to | Pst Gae
 
if you say ben in your first post talking to him then i'll know that he's blue
if you say benguino in your first post talking to him then i'll know that he's not blue
OpieOP

A+

thesunfan 07-22-2015 11:57 PM

Re: jTWG LXVIII - Welcoe to | Pst Gae
 
[11:54:58 PM] Greg: here's what happened on you
[11:55:34 PM] Greg: whenever someone has asked you your role before, you've claimed vanilla town (which is actually not good because you shouldn't claim vanilla town early on because it narrows down the role possibilities for the wolves)
[11:55:37 PM] Greg: you didn't do that this time
[11:55:58 PM] Greg: so you were either a role or mafia when I asked you if you were town and all you said was "yes" and not "yeah I'm VT"

I had to say it would've been fun to keep it in my pocket for the future but oh well

zenith played very well, ben put on his tryhard pants which is good the see and I think xel did pretty well as well. Kiba did a good job projecting town for a new player and storn had right logic I just decided to be an idiot and jail him. gg guys.

gg

YoshL 07-23-2015 06:01 AM

Re: jTWG LXVIII - Welcoe to | Pst Gae
 
k i'm awake now

mvp sunfan lol

imo zenith made a lot of ballsy moves that would have never worked had the roleblocker been anyone other than sunfan (he was considering jailing you lmao) (also, was it just me or was zenith using "pocketing" completely wrong). also there's the classic "i'm right but for the wrong reasons" so idk really anymore. you got excited at the end, and a lot of the logic AA was using at the end was perfectly sound, but you were twisting it through tunneling, which isn't necessarily bad in this scenario, but ofc won't work every game

aa wolf game, there's a lot to be said about your posting context, you would say things like "i didn't send in a kill" which feels much more wolfy than something like "i didn't kill benguin" and those little things can fuck you over pretty hard. mechanically, sunfan would have been the better kill on the last night, because if ben had saved him, then storn would have been somewhat implicated and he would have been a wildcard. otherwise, if ben hadn't saved him (p.s. ben's night action for night 2 was save no-one) then sunfan would have been dead, and if ben outed later, the "why didn't you save sunfan" question could have been brought up, etc.

dfr sorry bro you kinda got pooped on by sunfan

kiba, needs to post more, and really show the other players that you're thinking about the game i guess

psychoangel, we talked again lol

ston, your posts still are really hard to make sense out of a lot of the times - your logic may sound sound to you, but it comes out really flawed, or otherwise in a super convoluted manner

xel, first time i think i've seen you post that much, lol

sunfan, gg dunks. If you hadn't blocked dfr that first night, you would have died, and zenith would have been probably very quick to go, and this game would have been like 100x different than it was.

ben, yay posting. probably should have saved sunfan regardless, unless you were harbouring suspicion that he was actually a wolf? which idk then, i guess that's your logic?

sorry about nighttalk, #oversights

YoshL 07-23-2015 06:02 AM

Re: jTWG LXVIII - Welcoe to | Pst Gae
 
night actions

n1
AA -> seers ben, gets Doctor
sunfan -> jails dfr
dfr -> kills sunfan
ben -> saves zenith

n2
AA -> seers greg, gets Jailkeep
AA -> kills benguin
sunfan -> jails ston
ben -> no save

YoshL 07-23-2015 06:06 AM

Re: jTWG LXVIII - Welcoe to | Pst Gae
 
and finally, dfr you fucked up, postgame doesn't have any letters stolen because the letter stealers have all been caught

AragakiAyase 07-23-2015 06:21 AM

Re: jTWG LXVIII - Welcoe to | Pst Gae
 
A few things since I'm at work and can't post a long list:

#1. DFR you fucked up lol :p
#2. Fuck night talk
#3. Nice roleswap

thesunfan 07-23-2015 06:31 AM

Re: jTWG LXVIII - Welcoe to | Pst Gae
 
I agree game would've been both a lot harder for town and a lot more hilarious if I didn't block DFR that night.
I \think\ Zenith doesn't get lynched now that I think about it because his reaction to my death would be through the roof and he could quote a few posts from the night that might save him but it would've been funny to see.

reuben_tate 07-23-2015 06:50 AM

Re: jTWG LXVIII - Welcoe to | Pst Gae
 
Oh, this game ended.

Sorry Zenith for going so hard on you d0 :( It was hard not to xD

I'll explain the logic behind my actions later...most of it follows from having a very strong wolf read on AA at the start of d1 (including the intentional half-assed logic which I knew wasn't completely sound but others might buy, sorry AA).

reuben_tate 07-23-2015 06:50 AM

Re: jTWG LXVIII - Welcoe to | Pst Gae
 
But I'm going to bed now...too tired to make a more meaningful post

storn42 07-23-2015 06:59 AM

Re: jTWG LXVIII - Welcoe to | Pst Gae
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by YoshL (Post 4341360)
and finally, dfr you fucked up, postgame doesn't have any letters stolen because the letter stealers have all been caught

Quote:

Originally Posted by YoshL (Post 4341357)
ston, your posts still are really hard to make sense out of a lot of the times - your logic may sound sound to you, but it comes out really flawed, or otherwise in a super convoluted manner

Quote:

Originally Posted by YoshL (Post 4341358)
sunfan -> jails ston


ikr, they even managed to steal letters from my name after the game was won.

AragakiAyase 07-23-2015 07:04 AM

Re: jTWG LXVIII - Welcoe to | Pst Gae
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by reuben_tate (Post 4341367)
Oh, this game ended.

Sorry Zenith for going so hard on you d0 :( It was hard not to xD

I'll explain the logic behind my actions later...most of it follows from having a very strong wolf read on AA at the start of d1 (including the intentional half-assed logic which I knew wasn't completely sound but others might buy, sorry AA).

Zenith bought it :p He ended up being right for the wrong reasons lol

storn42 07-23-2015 07:06 AM

Re: jTWG LXVIII - Welcoe to | Pst Gae
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by AragakiAyase (Post 4341370)
Zenith bought it :p He ended up being right for the wrong reasons lol

speaking of being right. totally called your vote on psycho lol :P. atleast you were a correct woof read from me :P (take that zenith. you're totally getting lynched D4)

AragakiAyase 07-23-2015 07:13 AM

Re: jTWG LXVIII - Welcoe to | Pst Gae
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by storn42 (Post 4341372)
speaking of being right. totally called your vote on psycho lol :P. atleast you were a correct woof read from me :P (take that zenith. you're totally getting lynched D4)

That was your best post all game by far. The problem was that you had been so inconsistent before that that you had to be mechanically cleared before anyone would consider me. But yeah, you were right on, it was a risk I felt I had to take to salvage the game because DFR was in way too deep D1

YoshL 07-23-2015 07:20 AM

Re: jTWG LXVIII - Welcoe to | Pst Gae
 
you're ston now to me

XelNya 07-23-2015 07:29 AM

Re: jTWG LXVIII - Welcoe to | Pst Gae
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by YoshL (Post 4341357)
xel, first time i think i've seen you post that much, lol

1. I gave myself a rule this game that I had to post every time I went to post. I cheated once during being absolutely furious at work.

2. It's really easy to post for me when I am town and enjoying the game. I personally don't enjoy things as much as I enjoyed this game.

3. I still think Storn should have been lynched day 1 and I don't think many arguments could convince me it was worse than that KiTB.

And DFR I am sorry yah got dunked by Greggles. He's a jerk.

AA I think the thing that sold me that you were gonna be the best lynch was your response to me saying "why wouldn't you die for the glory of town." Something about that reply was just, yuck.

AragakiAyase 07-23-2015 07:46 AM

Re: jTWG LXVIII - Welcoe to | Pst Gae
 
Yoshl thanks for the comments that'll help my next wolf game a lot :) I noticed the "I didn't send in the kill" pretty quick but it was too late. I don't think anyone else noticed though so yay. Also now that I see ben didn't save n2 I should've killed greg for sure, I just thought he'd save greg 100%. Bad play on my part I guess. Also I felt like we were screwed after dfr got blocked and it ended up being that way.

@xel, even if I am town I will never let myself willingly get lynched if I think there's a better option so that'll be my defense regardless of alignment. But yeah I was screwed lol

Also if we had killed greg n1 I think we could've won it, oh well it was still fun

YoshL 07-23-2015 07:49 AM

Re: jTWG LXVIII - Welcoe to | Pst Gae
 
you honestly looked like you were enjoying yourself lol


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