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mellon_collie 11-8-2019 10:25 AM

Re: TWG 190: Written in Blood and Betrayal - Game Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by flashflash account (Post 4701937)
hard for it to be omgus since I nabbed you first

the fact that Riot flipped town and you still voted me with no change of your way of thinking when your "read" of me was based off my read of Riot

seems pretty OMGUS to me

flashflash account 11-8-2019 10:27 AM

Re: TWG 190: Written in Blood and Betrayal - Game Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mellon_collie (Post 4701942)
the fact that Riot flipped town and you still voted me with no change of your way of thinking when your "read" of me was based off my read of Riot

seems pretty OMGUS to me

that's... not what it means

but my vote on you doesn't necessarily have a lot to do with riot's read list itself
if your reaction had been to any number of bad posts, I would have disliked it in the same way

I think you liking it shouldn't be a thing
the only really defensible thing for you imo is that you say stupid stuff as town sometimes, like when you thought I was a wolf in the turbo where I shot a wolf D1
I gave you a pass for this before and it burned me in the other C9ff, so not happening again sorry

mellon_collie 11-8-2019 10:37 AM

Re: TWG 190: Written in Blood and Betrayal - Game Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by flashflash account (Post 4701943)
that's... not what it means

but my vote on you doesn't necessarily have a lot to do with riot's read list itself
if your reaction had been to any number of bad posts, I would have disliked it in the same way

I think you liking it shouldn't be a thing
the only really defensible thing for you imo is that you say stupid stuff as town sometimes, like when you thought I was a wolf in the turbo where I shot a wolf D1
I gave you a pass for this before and it burned me in the other C9ff, so not happening again sorry

so you think me liking a reads list that a confirmed town made (a reads list that was used as ammunition for a mislynch against him) just "shouldn't be a thing"

alright then

mellon_collie 11-8-2019 10:38 AM

Re: TWG 190: Written in Blood and Betrayal - Game Thread
 
that literally makes no sense btw do you have anything against me that doesn't involve that single post I made?

mellon_collie 11-8-2019 10:40 AM

Re: TWG 190: Written in Blood and Betrayal - Game Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by flashflash account (Post 4701943)
if your reaction had been to any number of bad posts, I would have disliked it in the same way

what was so bad about riot's list exactly, looking at it from the perspective that we know he is town?

and i mean exactly like what exact quotes/phrases from it are objectively "bad" to you

123kappa3 11-8-2019 10:45 AM

Re: TWG 190: Written in Blood and Betrayal - Game Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by flashflash account (Post 4701938)
how does my push differ from xel, storn, charu, mml, etc who also called riotpolice out on the read list?

What things have I done that strike you as playing pretty town?

Imo your push was first and once xel jumped in you totally committed.

But then you switched to mellon collie because they liked the list (again I dont like you putting so much stock in that list)


I looked back on your iso. Most of it is going after riot and mellon collie. But at the end you started talking about wolves being inactive because they were okay with the turn of events. If this is true shouldnt you have tried to vote another way.

I unfortunately thought you were more town. I dont actually see a whole lot that I like.

Although you pointing out inconsistencies with a lot of people is something I like.

flashflash account 11-8-2019 10:47 AM

Re: TWG 190: Written in Blood and Betrayal - Game Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mellon_collie (Post 4701946)
what was so bad about riot's list exactly, looking at it from the perspective that we know he is town?

and i mean exactly like what exact quotes/phrases from it are objectively "bad" to you

it's riddled with inconsistencies, has a bunch of baseless reads, and really (no offense meant to riotpolice here) was just a waste of effort
if he really was going for reactions, we were probably meant to not like the reads list to begin with in which case yeah then making that read list is fine gj rito

so when you come in and say "I really liked the read list, it shows effort and he's really putting himself out there" when neither of those things really happened, it's either the same lack of thread awareness that riotpolice possibly displayed or it's you just generating fake content

you can pick which one it is I guess

this isn't a false dichotomy either there's just no other way someone could like the reads list

flashflash account 11-8-2019 10:49 AM

Re: TWG 190: Written in Blood and Betrayal - Game Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 123kappa3 (Post 4701947)
Imo your push was first and once xel jumped in you totally committed.

But then you switched to mellon collie because they liked the list (again I dont like you putting so much stock in that list)


I looked back on your iso. Most of it is going after riot and mellon collie. But at the end you started talking about wolves being inactive because they were okay with the turn of events. If this is true shouldnt you have tried to vote another way.

I unfortunately thought you were more town. I dont actually see a whole lot that I like.

Although you pointing out inconsistencies with a lot of people is something I like.

I did try to vote another way- I wanted to CFD onto Raeko because I was worried that the EOD was DADV
I also considered that riot could be either the SK or the other wolves were just too inactive to save him, so since there was so much resistance to Raeko the riot lynch was still a good one to me
I was the first one to call out riotpolice on the crappy list, but I feel I didn't push him to the degree that xel and charu did

mellon_collie 11-8-2019 10:50 AM

Re: TWG 190: Written in Blood and Betrayal - Game Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by flashflash account (Post 4701948)
so when you come in and say "I really liked the read list, it shows effort and he's really putting himself out there" when neither of those things really happened, it's either the same lack of thread awareness that riotpolice possibly displayed or it's you just generating fake content

you can pick which one it is I guess

this isn't a false dichotomy either there's just no other way someone could like the reads list

so you're trying to tell me that the reads list that most of the day and many people's votes were based on, didn't involve riot putting himself out there?

it's not me that lacks thread awareness sorry bud

flashflash account 11-8-2019 10:52 AM

Re: TWG 190: Written in Blood and Betrayal - Game Thread
 
so you're trying to tell me that when you said "really putting himself out there" you meant that his goal was to become a sacrificial lamb for some reason?
I wouldn't believe that

123kappa3 11-8-2019 10:53 AM

Re: TWG 190: Written in Blood and Betrayal - Game Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by flashflash account (Post 4701949)
I did try to vote another way- I wanted to CFD onto Raeko because I was worried that the EOD was DADV
I also considered that riot could be either the SK or the other wolves were just too inactive to save him, so since there was so much resistance to Raeko the riot lynch was still a good one to me
I was the first one to call out riotpolice on the crappy list, but I feel I didn't push him to the degree that xel and charu did

I agree that charu pretty much guranteed riots lynch. I dont think xel was so strong as charu.

Mostly I want to clear you. because that makes the game easier.

Its just i am havign a hard time doing that because you are playing town and trying to make sure everything makes sense but, some of your reads look wolf.

Also why do you like shadow so much. They are just pushing me because im tunneling charu so fking hard.

flashflash account 11-8-2019 10:54 AM

Re: TWG 190: Written in Blood and Betrayal - Game Thread
 
I interpreted it as you saying he was getting his thoughts out on paper for everyone to see and that should be applauded because a wolf would be too chicken to establish thoughts so early or w/e

this is fine in a vacuum but if you look at the context again there's nothing there
if riot is a wolf here theoretically he can still make a read list like this so easily that it shouldn't count for anything

so what exactly is your defense then?

mellon_collie 11-8-2019 10:55 AM

Re: TWG 190: Written in Blood and Betrayal - Game Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by flashflash account (Post 4701952)
so you're trying to tell me that when you said "really putting himself out there" you meant that his goal was to become a sacrificial lamb for some reason?
I wouldn't believe that

no, I mean that his goal was to generate discussion and the way he did it put himself in the center of that discussion, thus "putting himself out there". I don't think he expected to by lynched based off just that

flashflash account 11-8-2019 10:56 AM

Re: TWG 190: Written in Blood and Betrayal - Game Thread
 
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Originally Posted by mellon_collie (Post 4701955)
no, I mean that his goal was to generate discussion and the way he did it put himself in the center of that discussion, thus "putting himself out there". I don't think he expected to by lynched based off just that

good, that's what I thought
he didn't do that, you're faking

mellon_collie 11-8-2019 10:59 AM

Re: TWG 190: Written in Blood and Betrayal - Game Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by flashflash account (Post 4701954)
I interpreted it as you saying he was getting his thoughts out on paper for everyone to see and that should be applauded because a wolf would be too chicken to establish thoughts so early or w/e

this is fine in a vacuum but if you look at the context again there's nothing there
if riot is a wolf here theoretically he can still make a read list like this so easily that it shouldn't count for anything

so what exactly is your defense then?

this is some wifom shit

he could do anything as either wolf or town

Why does it surprise anyone that there's nothing there when it was a reads list made on PAGE 3?! I didn't care that there wasn't anything there, the fact that he did it is what I was commenting on and I thought it looked towny and guess what I was correct

You're seriously tunneling dude and I suggest if you are really town to look elsewhere. if you stick on this point I might have to really go after you because this push is seriously so flimsy I'd think it was fake from anyone other than you but since it's you I think maybe you're just in a tunnel but get out

mellon_collie 11-8-2019 10:59 AM

Re: TWG 190: Written in Blood and Betrayal - Game Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by flashflash account (Post 4701956)
good, that's what I thought
he didn't do that, you're faking

what does this even mean?

flashflash account 11-8-2019 11:01 AM

Re: TWG 190: Written in Blood and Betrayal - Game Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mellon_collie (Post 4701489)
Eh, I like Riot's reads list. It will be good to be able to see his thought progression so plainly. Other plays can look back on that and see any inconsistencies from later in the game, so I think it's pretty ballsy to make one so early on

so ballsy

mellon_collie 11-8-2019 11:02 AM

Re: TWG 190: Written in Blood and Betrayal - Game Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by flashflash account (Post 4701959)
so ballsy

you did it, you quoted my single post that you're basing an entire push around when we see how well that went yesterday

great job

flashflash account 11-8-2019 11:04 AM

Re: TWG 190: Written in Blood and Betrayal - Game Thread
 
at the end of the day, this is basically a meta read
I don't think you give the lip service you did if you were town

flashflash account 11-8-2019 11:05 AM

Re: TWG 190: Written in Blood and Betrayal - Game Thread
 
so charu you have anything new?


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