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psychoangel691 09-28-2019 04:26 PM

2019 September/October Set 3
 
Set 3
Judge - Rebirth

A Single Atom (Qrrbrbirbel)
Autoprocess (Ghost_Medley)
Bad Boy (AutotelicBrown)
Coconut Adventure (suicidaln00b)
Crystallized Silver (FFR Pro 21)
Eiketsu He Tsureru (Coolboyrulez0 & Elekton)
Fast Fissure Atomhead Remix (choof)
Fernando (choof)
Identity Part 5 (Reshiram)
Indian Summer (LeKrispyKreme)
ko mu no kamisama (Elekton)
Mongoloid Alien (ositzxc369)
Secret Zombie Room V2 (devonin)
Shotgun Senorita (XelNya)
Snowblind (TC_Halogen)

qrrbrbirbel 09-28-2019 06:21 PM

Re: 2019 September/October Set 3
 
Fuck me up senpai yWy

blanky 09-28-2019 06:28 PM

Re: 2019 September/October Set 3
 
Fuck me up senpai yWy

psychoangel691 09-29-2019 03:56 PM

Re: 2019 September/October Set 3
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by blanky (Post 4699534)
Fuck me up senpai yWy

Turns out somehow the folder got messed up! So yours is actually in someone else's hands, lol

gold stinger 09-29-2019 04:11 PM

Re: 2019 September/October Set 3
 
Double checked mine, it's not me. haha

edit: blanky's files split between bmah & gradiant.

blanky 09-29-2019 04:26 PM

Re: 2019 September/October Set 3
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by psychoangel691 (Post 4699612)
Turns out somehow the folder got messed up! So yours is actually in someone else's hands, lol

Thanks!
*crosses fingers / hopes the switch increases chance of acceptance*

choof 09-29-2019 09:54 PM

Re: 2019 September/October Set 3
 
oh goddamnit rebirth isn't going to like either of my charts

Rebirth0 09-29-2019 11:37 PM

Re: 2019 September/October Set 3
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by choof (Post 4699637)
oh goddamnit rebirth isn't going to like either of my charts

Actually both of yours were good. The music with Fast Fissure is the only problem with me, in terms of if I think it would be enjoyable for many others to play.

I've also been away for a fucking decade so I can't really think like that anymore maybe

Rebirth0 10-1-2019 10:29 AM

Re: 2019 September/October Set 3
 
A Single Atom (Qrrbrbirbel) [5/10]
-m3 beats 3-4. 4 note sequence that is '1, 4, 3, 2' should be flipped. Should be '4, 1, 2, 3'
-m5 - The 64th notes. Probably shouldn't be there. It sounds like there are 6 notes in that spot, not 8. Same thing at m7, m9
- The doubles every 8th note from m21-m29 I would redo that section. There is a pattern with the music that would make that part more enjoyable to play if done right.
- Not really necessary to keep the notes continuing after the start of m59. I get the pattern but the music is too low to justify it.


Autoprocess (Ghost_Medley) [8/10]
- OCD triggering green notes aside, I understand every note and layering decision. All technically accurate, and this gets a pass from me. Accepted


Badboy (AutotelicBrown) [7/10]
- Very good file. Only thing I can really think of is to consider adding hands during the most intense, active parts to spice it up even more. Or maybe singular prominent notes in the song like m25 beat 3, m26 beat 3, m28 beat 1, m29 beat 4, etc. You already essentially do hands with the bpm tricks in parts during these sections, keep doing it at spots that merit it. Accepted


Coconut Aventure (suicidaln00b) [9/10]
- I believe most if not all of the 24th streams/bursts are actually 32nds but maybe you watered them down for the sake of ease of play? I'm fine with it, but maybe if there is a hard file batch soon this could be held and "fixed" for that.
- Only thing I don't like is the 24th stream starting at m93. It's mostly in the music but the volume of the music doesn't justify the file to continue since the music is phasing out. Just add a yellow '12' after the blue at the start of m93 and it's good. Accepted if m93 stream is removed


Crystallized Silver (FFR Pro 21) [6/10]
- m50, if you're going to commit to the double on the 8th note at the beginning, do the same for the very first note of the measure.
- The doubles with 48th after you should make into the glissandos that they are. 48th burst starting at the yellow note and ending on the red. More fun to play and more accurate to the music. This applies to each instance of this in the file
- The part between m54 and m58 still sounds hectic with the music. That would be a good opportunity to keep pace with a difficult section to play, especially coming off a 24th stream. That 4 measure section feels like it should have more to it.
- This file is close but needs this work.


Eiketsu He Tsureru (Coolboyrulez0 & Elekton) [7/10]
- m27 beat 1. Missed a short 32nd stream. Same with m31 beat 1, m44 beat 1, m45 beat 1, and more sections. The rest of the chart is consistent enough with the 32nds where there should be nothing missed.


Fast Fissue (choof) [7.5/10]
- There's nothing wrong with it really. Going to pass it but I want other judge opinions on the playability and likability of the file. To me it feels like one of those unsteppable songs that people wouldn't enjoy playing because of the music. File itself is fine.


Fernando (choof) [9/10]
- A little bit of the same song issue as Fast Fissue but this one is much easier to envision enjoyment. Accepted


Identity Part 5 (Reshiram) [9/10]
- Missed some minijacks in the middle of m30
- The parts with mini jacks at m47 and 48 are the same sound as the 4 note jack at the end of m49. Keep that consistent. My advice would be to make the longer jack two mini jacks. Or remove all 3 since there aren't really any other jacks in that area of the song. It makes sense when you do it at the beginning of the song, but the same sound is playing on all 3 of the instances here.
- Great file. Accepted


Indian Summer (LeKrispyKreme) [4/10]
- The blue note thing you do a couple times at the beginning of the song is way off. They should be red notes and those sections should be redone.
- Most of the rest of the file lacks creativity. The 16th patterns are all the same. You miss opportunities all over the music to make the file better than what it currently is.


Ko Mu no Kamisama (Elekton) [7/10]
- Missing some doubles at times. Yellow note at m4 beat 3, m8 beat 2. m12 beat 2. From m5 to m13 you could get away with having doubles on every or almost every red note. It makes sense to.
- Missing doubles at m29 beat 3, m31 beat 3, m32 beat 3, m33 beat 3, m37 beat 2, m38 beat 2.
- You might be doing this on purpose to make the file easier at spots and to have us play the file to the other sounds going on but it would be a better file with doubles included at all of these spots. This will be accepted if this work is done. It's a good file.


Monogoloid Alian (ositzxz369) [8/10]
- The minijacks in the first 20 seconds of the song feel weird to play. They sound like they're in the music but they might not be very necessary to start out a file. Just a consideration.
- Some missed opportunities with doubles in some spots. m43 beat 3, m44 beat 2, m47 beat 1 and beat 3. m50 beat 3, m51 beat 2 and beat 4. More spots - usually at the ends of short streams. Could be intentional, maybe not. I think it would make the file a little bit better but it is technically good as is. Accepted


Secret Zombie Room v2 (Devonin) [9/10]
- Seems to be a weird theme with me, but missing doubles at m9 beat 1 to start off the next section of the song. You did it when the song repeats at m17 but not at m9
- I'd suggest removing the doubles at m27 beat 3, m28 beat 1 and 3. Those are fine being single notes. Same at m31 beat 3, m39 beat 3
- Should add a double at m57 beat 1 to help signify the ending part of the song.
- Technically better in every way than the original file. Though based on the requirements of when I previously did this 10 whole years ago, a v2 of a file needed to be drastically different in terms of difficulty. I'm going to assume that's thrown out the window now? I don't know. Accepted


Shotgun Senorita (XelNya) [9/10]
- The 32nd stream that ends in '212' at the beginning is weird. All of the other streams don't have that difficult one handed end to the bursts (for spread players). Consider changing for consistency.
- Extra 32nd at m80 beat 4? Doesn't need to be there
- Consider changing some patterns in the 8th note spot at m91-m93. You could get away with it with the way the music is.
- Accepted but consider the changes.


Snowblind (TC_Halogen) [9/10]
- Missed doubles at m25 beat 1 and beat 3 maybe? I get why you did it
- Purple note at m40 beat 2 should be blue and the cyan note before it should probably be red. Less certain on the cyan.
- Some OCD triggering green note syndrome at the end? Guess its fine. Accepted


Accepted 10/15 files god what have I become

xXOpkillerXx 10-1-2019 10:49 AM

Re: 2019 September/October Set 3
 
Wow that's a lot of 9/10, expecting high quality content from this

Rebirth0 10-1-2019 10:51 AM

Re: 2019 September/October Set 3
 
If I'm supposed to be more strict I can absolutely cut back some ratings. I kinda feel like with a 15 file set to judge, I should only be accepting like 5 - 6 at best. But I don't really know how things are now and its been a very long time since I did this for FFR. I'll say files have absolutely gotten better than 10 years ago. 1/3 of all files back then were complete garbage. Now, at least in my set, each one was at least decent

xXOpkillerXx 10-1-2019 10:54 AM

Re: 2019 September/October Set 3
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Rebirth0 (Post 4699868)
If I'm supposed to be more strict I can absolutely cut back some ratings. I kinda feel like with a 15 file set to judge, I should only be accepting like 5 - 6 at best. But I don't really know how things are now and its been a very long time since I did this for FFR. I'll say files have absolutely gotten better than 10 years ago. 1/3 of all files back then were complete garbage. Now, at least in my set, each one was at least decent

I know absolutely nothing about these files; only pointing out that 9/10 is a high rating and that you gave many of those. If they're justified, it's very ok.

Coolboyrulez0 10-1-2019 01:10 PM

Re: 2019 September/October Set 3
 
We chose to not layer some 32nd kicks in those stream sections to keep the difficulty curve nice and consistent and focus on the melodic (32nd) elements. Would prefer to keep it that way unless it's a hard reject.

psychoangel691 10-1-2019 01:11 PM

Re: 2019 September/October Set 3
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Rebirth0 (Post 4699868)
If I'm supposed to be more strict I can absolutely cut back some ratings. I kinda feel like with a 15 file set to judge, I should only be accepting like 5 - 6 at best. But I don't really know how things are now and its been a very long time since I did this for FFR. I'll say files have absolutely gotten better than 10 years ago. 1/3 of all files back then were complete garbage. Now, at least in my set, each one was at least decent

It's definitely gotten a lot better over the years, and we have a lot of repeat simfile authors as well as some coming over from other communities. So I don't think it's odd to have way more accepts nowadays than in years before.

AutotelicBrown 10-1-2019 02:07 PM

Re: 2019 September/October Set 3
 
I don't mind the rating in itself given the song choice is very :mrgreen:, but giving conditional for a chart in the 50s because it doesn't have enough hands (or heavier layering in general) seems pretty weird and comes off as aesthetic preference at best.

Quote:

You already essentially do hands with the bpm tricks in parts during these sections
The hands only happen on the crashes which I think you can agree are much stronger than everything else, especially having the leading synth (green & cyan notes) alongside.

Elsewhere in those sections the layering is very straightforward, it's just jumps for kicks and when there is bass + either color coded layer, ignoring those that happen midway through the longer jacks.

On a side note I noticed a few missed jumps on 57.915s (4x repetitions) and 67.160s (2x repetitions). I believe those translate to m27 beat 1 and m31 beat 2.
I can add a jump at the start of the jacks at 103.739s (m48 beat 3) + repetitions as well.

devonin 10-1-2019 02:09 PM

Re: 2019 September/October Set 3
 
Yeah I definitely thing nothing is gained by grading these on a curve. It makes perfect sense to me that over time, submitted charts would creep up in quality.

qrrbrbirbel 10-1-2019 07:30 PM

Re: 2019 September/October Set 3
 
Met my personal goal of barely passing, so happy!

Thanks for the constructive feedback rebirth, I'll be sure to take my time on the last 2 bits of advice and resubmit soon!

Reshiram 10-2-2019 12:50 AM

Re: 2019 September/October Set 3
 
Rebirth gave me a 9 holy shit am I dreaming

It took me a few listens for those m30 minijacks but I definitely agree there. If that's the case I'm hearing a similar sound on m34 that might deserve minijacks (note 122.000-123.000 and note 138.000-139.000??) Also went ahead and changed the longjack on m49 to a pair of two-noters as suggested

Rebirth0 10-3-2019 05:26 PM

Re: 2019 September/October Set 3
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by AutotelicBrown (Post 4699877)
On a side note I noticed a few missed jumps on 57.915s (4x repetitions) and 67.160s (2x repetitions). I believe those translate to m27 beat 1 and m31 beat 2.
I can add a jump at the start of the jacks at 103.739s (m48 beat 3) + repetitions as well.

I didn't even notice that but I agree with your take. Would be good to add stuff at those spots. Looks like they're mostly green notes. Jump at the beginning of some of those jacks are fine too.

As for the hands thing. It's not a huge concern and it is personal opinion of someone who hasn't done this in a long time. Even as is, this is a great file to play.


Quote:

Originally Posted by Coolboyrulez0 (Post 4699872)
We chose to not layer some 32nd kicks in those stream sections to keep the difficulty curve nice and consistent and focus on the melodic (32nd) elements. Would prefer to keep it that way unless it's a hard reject.

I don't think any difficulty consistency would be lost in adding some 32nds. They're already all over the place. I can see the VERY SLIGHT difference in where you put the 32nds vs where you intentionally missed them. I can pass it as is, but I do think they should be added.


Quote:

Originally Posted by Reshiram (Post 4699948)
Rebirth gave me a 9 holy shit am I dreaming

It took me a few listens for those m30 minijacks but I definitely agree there. If that's the case I'm hearing a similar sound on m34 that might deserve minijacks (note 122.000-123.000 and note 138.000-139.000??) Also went ahead and changed the longjack on m49 to a pair of two-noters as suggested


I see what you're talking about with the part at m34 beat 3 (starting at 55.884). It is ok as is but I would not object if you wanted mini jacks there. It is technically correct to add them. Really I'm sure you could get away with adding more mini jacks all over the song but that might be a bit too much. Not sure how everyone feels about jacks nowadays.

suicidaln00b 10-3-2019 11:45 PM

Re: 2019 September/October Set 3
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Rebirth0 (Post 4699864)
- I believe most if not all of the 24th streams/bursts are actually 32nds but maybe you watered them down for the sake of ease of play? I'm fine with it, but maybe if there is a hard file batch soon this could be held and "fixed" for that.

NAH mang i didnt even notice some of those were 32nds, also fixed

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rebirth0 (Post 4699864)
- Only thing I don't like is the 24th stream starting at m93. It's mostly in the music but the volume of the music doesn't justify the file to continue since the music is phasing out. Just add a yellow '12' after the blue at the start of m93 and it's good. Accepted if m93 stream is removed

i assume you mean m92
also oh dang i honestly like the "fuck your AAA" ending as is, but if i really must change it then i'd rather keep in the notes for the hi-hat thingy, the piano, and the last 5 notes going to the percussion (basically remove 24ths)
ending the song at m92 would be weird


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