Originally Posted by psychoangel691 (Post 4697435)

Zenith subbed in for jessie

Originally Posted by inDheart (Post 4697436)

i mean i could stop playing right now but i'd prefer to just believe it's the text "someone at random from the voters"

Originally Posted by Hateandhatred (Post 4697349)

This turn of event is actually helpful to me.

Chihiro is a strown town lean. Is only a replacement yet dug into the game like no one had so far. Could still be a great wolf, but I don't feel like he tried to protect anyone without legit reasons, and kind of looked into everyone equally, at least with the few posts so far.

Shadowgod is lock town for me, at least for the time being. I don't know how many games he's played before, but seeing him roll wolf almost everytime, he gives himself away fucking instantly, this time he's not anywhere near doing this, so he gets a pass for sure.

Indheart is a scumlean, his vote on me doesn't look bad, no vote on me could possibly look bad imo, but his defense when people brought it up sucked big time.

DBP town lean. He plays like in the Anime North game, and indheart I have as a scum lean anyway, which reinforces him imo. Xelnya push isn't bad, but he looks like himself and I think he knows that, so that's a slight jab against him

123kappa made some great points here and there but they're open to interpretation most of the time. Will keep an eye on what he says. What's up with the back and forth with Xel?

Psychoangel is hard null. You're busy IRL though so... yeah, that.

Charu you're posting but aren't involving yourself enough... At least based on your post count, you don't have half the substance lesser posters have. This makes you look bad but you can come back duder.

Jessie is T-Force aka useless so far

Xelnya is Xelnya. You better not be a fucking blue.

Svaz looks mediocre because you're what's left out if I don't count Jessie and Kayla.

Busy day for me but that's a start!

Originally Posted by Chihiro Fujisaki (Post 4697424)

DaBackpack is the most likely active player to be a wolf. I think his overanalysis of Kappa complaining about saying the wrong thing D0 is the best example of my concerns with his play. There was a 6 minute time frame between Kappa submitting his response to Xel, and Xel posting. With that in mind, I find DBP's analysis to have been completely context deaf. There are similar problems with his focus on inD. I have attempted to question him and been wholly unsatisfied with his participation.

what does this mean?

my thing with Kappa wasn't overanalysis, it was quite literally a contradiction or fabrication. when you're scumhunting you're looking for contradictions between actions and words. kappa had projected a different mindset than I think he actually has. him saying something stupid, then brushing it aside as "haha I always say something stupid D0" is indisputably weird with n=2. as a potential wolf trait, it's self-deprecation as a means of diffusing some perceived tension. it's not damning by itself, I didn't vote the guy, but I don't see how my reasoning isn't at least comprehensible to you.

You mention "context deaf". what about that six minute interval changes this scenario? like yeah when I did my catch up I read the entire thread in one go so I probably missed those time-sensitive cues but I'm wondering what specifically about this six-minute window factors in to your read on Kappa.

RE: Indheart, I probably goofed there, sure. I wolfread him for having a lot of posts, most of which were poking other players, and I thought he was trying to make a lot of "noise" without giving actual reads or content. It wasn't until we talked that I came around to the idea that indheart was doing this most likely for the reason he gave at face-value: there really wasn't anybody else talking and he took that into his own hands.

but you have to ask yourself not "is this person making logical sense" or "is this person considering this context", but "does this person believe what they're saying?"

to which I ask, do you not think I'm actually try to reason things out in both of those cases?





In my opinion Xel comes off as self focused and, lazy so far. Jokingly poking at Kappa does not really make him wolfy, nor does not being very available at the end. But they do not make him town, and he has done very little otherwise. He claims to be sad sun fan died, while supposedly maintaining anger against being pushed yesterday. I will not pretend that I think questioning Xel will help me. It is his choice to step up to the plate or not.

nah after yesterday I'd rather stick him in a crucible and if he's a wolf he'll crumble, letting him go at his own pace means nothing's gonna happen

Originally Posted by _Zenith_ (Post 4697418)

fwiw it's an action which explicitly means anything in this context. All of your roles perform actions.

Originally Posted by inDheart (Post 4696815)

is literally anyone here

what do you think of kappa saying things that sound bad
what do you think of the xel posts i taped to the wall/is my thought worth valuing at all
at what point do you estimate anything will happen and/or are you keen on accelerating the timeline
what do you think of my vote
what do you think of sunfan's xiz vote
what do you think of t-force voters disclaiming they don't know what they're really voting for

Originally Posted by inDheart (Post 4696707)

cuil h&h

weak charu town or at least wouldnotlynch

Originally Posted by inDheart (Post 4697091)

i like charu
i mildly like shadowgod
you just reminded me to post back to xel so that's nice, xel and i do the same dance every time we play together i swear
i don't know what sunfan's doing and i haven't sufficiently dragged him to say enough to have a read yet
while i'll be the nth person to not be a fan of h&h's vote, 1) if he's really a dead slot for the rest of the day then it's not a productive direction and 2) does a wolf even
you're at least unaligned with charu
i haven't really dredged through the inactives

Originally Posted by inDheart (Post 4697127)

@ sunfan

am i missing something on subaru because they seem to be very Here more than anything

Originally Posted by inDheart (Post 4697173)

xelnya

did we actually stumble on an issue here

Originally Posted by Svaz (Post 4697363)

OK so what are you saying here, dbp/ind are w/w but trying not to look that way, or that they're not w/w and that t/t or t/w is possible here? 123kappa3 seemed to think that it was def w/t or t/w here so I'm just trying to get clarification here (it seemed like a possible t/t to me)

Originally Posted by 123kappa3 (Post 4697368)

Okay so I am going to first explain some of my train of thought. Xel didnt do like anything yesterday and people went on him. I dont know why and its make it even weirder that suncopter was pushing xel. I still think pushing Xel yesterday was bad. Obv he was unhelpful and its why I had some issues but, I was never going to vote.

Originally Posted by psychoangel691 (Post 4697422)

I think this was about kappa's list?

Originally Posted by Chihiro Fujisaki (Post 4697424)

I believe somebody asked me about what I meant in saying InD and DBP not W/W. Let's retract that wording and just say I independently like InD in that interaction for saying ass pull.

Originally Posted by 123kappa3 (Post 4697441)

Um I dont want to quote everything and yes its lazy but, the stuff I said that I think is most important is.

Why I didnt vote XEL.


Why I voted shadow.


Also why I voted Poptart.


So to explain. I wanted to vote shadow because they were the only person besides myself to put up some kind of read. because of that they or myself would be the most info for a lynch.


Xel said meme stuff that could be serious could not but, whatever he said he was going to play with salt before the game started anyway. He did nothing to help and I just wanted him to do something the next day.


Poptart played this game the same way he did when he was a wolf. Same way he played The game he subbed in. so between Poptart and Xel im going to vote Poptart everytime because Xel has a chance to do something Poptart doesnt.

ALso IM not going to Kitb thats dumb.

Originally Posted by psychoangel691 (Post 4697446)

This makes me think inD was weary on subaru wagon which we also know now is town.

Originally Posted by inDheart (Post 4697449)

the wagon hadn't really formed yet here, i think? i wasn't keeping good track of the votes, but i thought there were still few votes cast at all at this point, and then it felt like there were more subaru votes than anything else afterward

here i was thinking about actually adding myself to the wagon - when i say Here, i was reading his posts as just ones to be present than talking about the game, which does not scan as towny to me in a vacuum, so i realized i needed to join the meta discussion to figure it out

and then i wound up on xel instead because specific resistance to voting him seemed odd, and dbp flip-flopping also seemed odd

Originally Posted by inDheart (Post 4697447)

would you say it is the unhelpfulness that led you to not want to vote xel?

svaz apparently beat me to my other question here (about dbp/xel) so that's cool

what helps you break the tie between svaz and h&h when you're picking your third wolf in this post?

Originally Posted by inDheart (Post 4697455)

kappa, have you played with h&h before/do you know each other?