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DossarLX ODI 03-24-2012 01:35 AM
Suspicious scores thread
 
Updated to post #519.

New thread, keep the drama to a minimum. ~nois-or-e


Old thread can be found here.

Quote:
Originally Posted by aperson (Post 3661578)
This thread has a pretty clear purpose -- Find suspicious scores and analyze them. I don't know what pathetic sense of schadenfreude causes you all to constantly devolve into a scene out of Lord of the Flies, but I hope you're aware that if you keep it up you'll effectively kill the community you spend a lot of your time on. Moving forward, if you do something purposelessly antagonistic to another member of this site, you will be banned.

If you repeatedly do this, you are demonstrating to me that you no longer wish to have any association with the site. As such, I will be permanently banning your IP, deleting all of your accounts, and deleting all of your scores.

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-aperson
Lists:

  1. kikokinho (clarified by EzExZeRo7497)
  2. SpareAccount: Alternate account of subin
  3. analimpaction: Fine. Stuff happened on page 4
  4. SK8R43: People were going crazy about the one handed stuff, but he also plays spread. There isn't any suspicious case here.
  5. Funnygurl555: She's confirmed legitimate.
  6. Ezerace: EzExZeRo7497. Nothing suspicious here.
  7. StormKlowd61: Cold Kitten's profile now. Wiped by request in June 2012
  8. .Sapphire: Alternate account of Herogashix
  9. Jack Wolf: 5 FGO AAAs, One Winged Angel alt (apparently scores when he was pooping or something lol)
  10. .-.: Alternate account of 0 (page 10)
  11. Zephei, no suspicious case here
  12. Poptronix: LJRoX alternate account
  13. smocEternity
  14. Zapmeister: No suspicious case here


  1. sammybee: Flight of the Bumblee and Death Piano
  2. Dragon Shot: Botted scores


  1. OpTic NaDeShoT: 0-2-0-18 on Kidney Stone. No replay data to work off of, but score suggests more "boo syndrome" bot play.
  2. leon0975 & ghost2357: Oddly high gameplay/grandtotal in a short period of time
  3. Yoshi710: Frictional Nevada AAA. It looks reasonable enough from the data, but it looks like an alt or someone else playing.
  4. condoct: Legitimate scores, possibility of alt
  5. Hatsune_Miku: Legitimate scores, possibility of alt
  6. Vice: Obviously a pretty strong player, the plays are legitimate. However, OneHandNow has been known to get into really old accounts, and this one is 9.39 years old. Might be Anaru.
  7. Schweinekaramell: Nothing suspicious, but he used Whimper Wall to get onto the Top Daily, All Time Statistics for Grandtotal. His GT on the day was 1,250,483,875. Also mentioned again on page 22
  8. youbad: Possible alt, looks legitimate from his only observable replay
  9. 509trick: The plays he has look legitimate. He only has 37 games played though and all the scores were received within a short time span (basically when the account was created back in 2012). Maybe an alternate account.


  1. Beast&Harlot AIM Anthem, Final Fantasy Last Battle Festival, Sakura no Kenshi, Vertex BETA, and Lethal Injection impossible scores.
  2. zolodump: Botted scores, his bot is pretty frickin' advanced on other songs though, he had to worsen his scores manually. Some scores like RATO and Extratone Pirates don't show up in flagged replays due to misses.
  3. JoIV: Ridiculous scores, some impossible like Reality and Reluctantly Accepting Temporary Overexhaustion, just they're not on the top 200 boards because of the low combos.
  4. AnOptimusPrime: More ridiculous scores that don't pop up on the top 200 boards from misses, such as Reluctantly Accepting Temporary Overexhaustion, Schmollbluk, etc. also another OpTic NaDeShoT case in terms of the high boocounts suggesting "boo syndrome" bot play.
  5. ShuFFs: Reluctantly Accepting Temporary Overexhaustion, doesn't appear on top 200 due to misses but 11 goods.
  6. Force Roman Cancel: Alternate account of OneHandNow
  7. Nen Master: Alternate account of OneHandNow (page 9)
  8. mi40: Alternate account of OneHandNow (page 11)
  9. Tristana: Alternate account of OneHandNow
  10. Lina: Alternate account of OneHandNow
  11. gamecharmer: Basically scores with perfect accuracy but misses to not get it on the top 200. Courtesy of noname219
  12. Daemonrevolution: Botted Death Piano booflag
  13. samurai7694: Crowdpleaser AAA and 11ELEVEN AAA (I'd rather not get into this, but he didn't actually AAA the file from the replay)
  14. Bigpapa100: Replay analysis shows evidence of botting. Basically frame perfect runs.
  15. MasterOfTheTaco: Wiped
  16. ssbmchamp: Nothing now, before it was botted plays.
  17. Magic_Bean
  18. arrow up
  19. Anaru
  20. MinaciousGrace - RATO AAA
  21. Unregistered65132146
  22. A7XJunkie
  23. hXcalltheway
  24. Kaylee- The Divine Suicide of K and Piano Etude (Demon Fire)
  25. Mulie2
  26. DossarLX.ODI (This is not Dossar)
  27. Xx{Jade}xX
  28. Genosaurer
  29. eagleboy
  30. Vishnal
  31. Ravia
  32. SpareAccount
  33. a7xjunkie
  34. Avinarti
  35. Deruni
  36. ArticunoFFR
  37. Kamelan
  38. Anatoli
  39. Artamis
  40. Cyrenics
  41. TC_Cyrenics
  42. I Has A Pencil
  43. Attractive v2
  44. ffdfadsdasd2 - Einsten Rosen Bridge
  45. TSB_Alek
  46. DN_Alek
  47. HK_NotArealHKmember
  48. iPorn
  49. STD_Alek
  50. iiWhore
  51. AlekVSJynx
  52. ThatKidJust
  53. Haxelle
  54. TD_Alek
  55. RB_Alek
  56. -Hands-
  57. KungFuHustle
  58. -Silence-
  59. OneHandNow: http://www.flashflashrevolution.com/...65&postcount=1
  60. MrRubix: Vertex Beta vrofl AAA
  61. Reincarnate: Vertex Beta vrofl FC with 74 perfects
  62. Velocity: Almost There blackflag
  63. WTF WRECKED: The scores obtained on this account were intended as jokes, they can be removed (they were achieved legitimately but it's for avrank reasons).
  64. Yuyuko-sama: Despite being achieved by Ziergds, the scores from this alt cause avrank issues.
  65. ~ 5~: Scores were intended as a joke, if I recall this was an alt of OWA
  66. Cirno-, Reimu-, Yukari-: Alts
  67. Tegtegtegtegteg - Alt account
  68. Xx{Violet}xX - Requested wipe
  69. Portalo - Requested wipe
  70. Etylukah - is fine with score wipe http://www.flashflashrevolution.com/...0&postcount=84
  71. bananaofdoom01
  72. percussion15 - RATO (31-15-2-41)
  73. Immabot - RATO (12-0-4-4)
  74. stavie33 - Vertex Beta vrofl ((2094)-373-275-61-549)
  75. Velocity - Vertex Beta vrofl ((1636)-11-0-22-0)
  76. SpareAccount: Requested scorewipe
  77. MrRubix
  78. percussion15
  79. MasterOfTheTaco
  80. Ziergdsx18: Crowdpleaser (2-1-0-9) and a few other scores, everything's been done though.
  81. TatsuJiNi: Kidney Stone AAA (botted)
  82. Rooobin: blackflag on blooddrunk, zero goods 98 boos on Sensorium, and a lot of other wacky scores when he had stuff like 102 boos and 2 goods on Legendary Etude
  83. shit: Dossar's joke account with a joke thread, fun times. Wiped.
  84. Clegierse: It was [TeRa] playing on his gf's account.
  85. xThai: Botted stuff
  86. EmmyBeee: Lots of mashed scores, but has a shared IP, probably didn't get most of those FCs herself.
  87. lemonman96 impossible scores, removed
  88. ChessWizard: Crowdpleaser (boo glitch) (page 17)
  89. xXAll-ProXx: Crowdpleaser (boo glitch) (page 17)
  90. LOLZIMAGOD: Didn't cheat (at least not the replays stored on the profile) but was annoying with 10 boo scores filling up the scoreboards (was strategic getting them in the beginning or end and AAAing the rest of the song) and only having 5 games played.
  91. lxDestinyxl: Alternate account of subin, wiped by request
  92. Devonn: Botted scores.
  93. Sailor Neptune: Alternate account of OneHandNow
  94. MelodyOfOblivion99: Wiped, had misses on scores with really good accuracy (e.g. Death Piano)
  95. Shaman: Alternate account of OneHandNow (page 24). Wiped
  96. immabot: Wiped


*Not a hacked score but the board is wacky because the version was changed for sync http://www.flashflashrevolution.com/levelstats.php?level=1585

i love you 03-24-2012 01:37 AM
Re: Suspicious scores thread~
 
Cool new thread

MikeShinoda12345 03-24-2012 02:00 AM
Re: Suspicious scores thread~
 
i like how vrofl has a whole little subsection to itself even though like ~100 people have it

DossarLX ODI 03-24-2012 02:05 AM
Re: Suspicious scores thread~
 
I can fix that, it's the old list from the previous thread basically

Edit: Changed.

bmah 03-24-2012 02:09 AM
Re: Suspicious scores thread~
 
Are "accounts to take care of" not necessarily just cheaters? Are they also people who just want their scores wiped for whatever reason they've asked?

DossarLX ODI 03-24-2012 02:12 AM
Re: Suspicious scores thread~
 
Yes, it basically means that it's been resolved. Cheater or requested scorewipe.

popsicle_3000 03-24-2012 07:32 AM
Re: Suspicious scores thread~
 
hmm, was trying to figure out how to subscribe to this thread without posting... but couldn't figure it out.

icontrolyourworld 03-24-2012 08:10 AM
Re: Suspicious scores thread~
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by popsicle_3000 (Post 3663802)
hmm, was trying to figure out how to subscribe to this thread without posting... but couldn't figure it out.

NekoGon 03-24-2012 01:08 PM
Re: Suspicious scores thread~
 
condoct: Uses the same speed modifiers as Ziergdsx18.

mind elaborating on this?

EzExZeRo7497 03-24-2012 01:12 PM
Re: Suspicious scores thread~
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by NekoGon (Post 3663920)
condoct: Uses the same speed modifiers as Ziergdsx18.

mind elaborating on this?
Dossar said that condoct's scores look very similar to Ziergds', and their speed mods are the same in the previous thread

Quote:
Here are the scores, listed in order from condoct to Ziergdsx18

12 The Adventures Of Lolo 812,200* 524 0 0 0 0 524 15
12 The Adventures Of Lolo 812,200* 524 0 0 0 0 524 204

12 Reality 1,427,275* 920 1 0 0 0 921 12
12 Reality 1,427,550* 921 0 0 0 0 921 349

(Goods in the 50s range)
13 Metro 3,810,810
13 Metro 3,813,435

12 Coactive [Over My Shoulder Mix] 1,995,830
12 Coactive [Over My Shoulder Mix] 1,995,830

12 12 Bar Bloops 3,591,035* 2316 1 0 0 2 2317 1
12 12 Bar Bloops 3,591,055* 2316 1 0 0 1 2317 45

12 Eclipse (Solar) 2,237,230* 1437 7 1 0 5 1445 8
12 Eclipse (Solar) 2,238,375* 1440 5 0 0 0 1445 465

12 Almost There 2,975,610* 1912 7 3 0 4 1922 9
12 Almost There 2,977,880* 1918 4 0 0 6 1922 315

12 grind2 1,358,130* 868 10 0 0 1 878 12
12 grind2 1,359,170* 872 6 0 0 4 878 193

12 Saddest RMX 1,423,900* 917 2 0 0 0 919 16
12 Saddest RMX 1,424,450* 919 0 0 0 0 919 201

Emithith 03-24-2012 01:12 PM
Re: Suspicious scores thread~
 
at the beginning of the other hacked scores thread we discussed this and Dossar thinks Zierg played for condoct. He has no legit proof though, but he doesn't want to let it go.

edit lol ninja'd

DossarLX ODI 03-24-2012 04:34 PM
Re: Suspicious scores thread~
 
Kayla said condoct asked Ziergdsx18 to get some scores for him in this post. It's a shame that this information doesn't get brought up by others.

Quote:
Originally Posted by subin (Post 3663790)
Please list SpareAccount as an "alt".
Sure thing, but should I also mention who it is an alternate account of? I want this clarified early so I know if I should do that or not.

DossarLX ODI 03-31-2012 08:18 PM
Re: Suspicious scores thread~
 
So I was in the Eze vs. Zyphoror thread and looked at the do i smile? scoreboard, and out of nowhere I saw this guy

http://www.flashflashrevolution.com/...?sub=lourejurs

Uses 2x speedmod and a really recently registered member. Can someone look into this please? (The replays look reasonable, but I'd like an IP check please)

EzExZeRo7497 04-1-2012 04:26 AM
Re: Suspicious scores thread~
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by DossarLX ODI (Post 3668449)
So I was in the Eze vs. Zyphoror thread and looked at the do i smile? scoreboard, and out of nowhere I saw this guy

http://www.flashflashrevolution.com/...?sub=lourejurs

Uses 2x speedmod and a really recently registered member. Can someone look into this please? (The replays look reasonable, but I'd like an IP check please)
Beat me to the punch, lmao.

aperson 04-1-2012 05:44 AM
Re: Suspicious scores thread~
 
anaru alt. toasted.

EzExZeRo7497 04-9-2012 08:52 AM
Re: Suspicious scores thread~
 
2 AAAs and Kidney Stone AAA.
http://www.flashflashrevolution.com/...?sub=TatsuJiNi

????

Herogashix 04-9-2012 09:05 AM
Re: Suspicious scores thread~
 
"Kay, let's try 8-bit Day Dreamer...
Hm, seems easy.
Let's try Kidney Stone...
Hm, where's the challenge? I sightread AAA-ed this shit."

DossarLX ODI 04-9-2012 02:33 PM
Re: Suspicious scores thread~
 
TatsuJiNi's Kidney Stone AAA is botted. Added to "Alt accounts and admitted/obvious hacks"

Also, MrRubix's scores have been removed. Updating the OP.

DossarLX ODI 04-9-2012 08:28 PM
Re: Suspicious scores thread~
 
Just looked at Crowdpleaser and saw two cheated scores in the top ten:
- Ziergdsx18: Basically the same thing samurai7694 did. Like previously, not going to reveal what he did but the replay shows he didn't actually get the score legitimately on the file
- Dragon Shot: Botted

I also looked at Zyphoror's and surely must've been full out DS in the 64th trill, since six zeroframers were hit.

Also, all five of Dragon Shot's saved replays are physical evidence of botting (even though I understand this is a Velocity alt that I think had a lot of drama back some time ago haha)

Song Results (Perf-Good-Avg-Miss-Boo) Max Combo Score Date
Crowdpleaser 1,229 - 7 - 0 - 0 - 0 1,236 1,913,875 1/5/11
Exciting Hyper Highspeed Star 1,337 - 0 - 0 - 0 - 0 1,337 2,072,350 1/5/11
Xeno-Flow 1,831 - 0 - 0 - 0 - 0 1,831 2,838,050 1/5/11
Final Fantasy Last Battle Festival 3,648 - 0 - 0 - 0 - 0 3,648 5,654,400 1/5/11
Vertex BETA 1,755 - 0 - 0 - 0 - 0 1,755 2,720,250 1/5/11

hi19hi19 04-9-2012 08:31 PM
Re: Suspicious scores thread~
 
Can we just remove that file from the game and call it a day?


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