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potasium56 07-5-2018 09:12 PM

New Songs! Coming?
 
Hello

Am curious, are the devs going to add more songs to ffr or is 2,139 songs the max ffr will ever have?

I feel there aren't many song between 20 to 40 compared to the higher level songs.

I like it 07-5-2018 09:13 PM

Re: New Songs! Coming?
 
is 2139 not enough????????????

xXOpkillerXx 07-5-2018 09:14 PM

Re: New Songs! Coming?
 
Hi there,

New songs are added every ~2 weeks. Enjoy.

potasium56 07-5-2018 09:16 PM

Re: New Songs! Coming?
 
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Originally Posted by I like it (Post 4626742)
is 2139 not enough????????????

Nope

potasium56 07-5-2018 09:17 PM

Re: New Songs! Coming?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by xXOpkillerXx (Post 4626743)
Hi there,

New songs are added every ~2 weeks. Enjoy.

really, haven't seen any new level 20 to 40 songs....they must be favoring high level songs then.....or not adding them in batches to be noticeable. If new songs where added they would show in my unplayed list....have all songs played up to level 50 sooo if new songs were added between 1 to 40 it would be in there. right?

Just feel, high level songs outnumber mid level songs...

blindreper1179 07-5-2018 09:25 PM

Re: New Songs! Coming?
 
If you'd look at the front page, you'd notice they add songs every two weeks. They also show what difficulty they are as well. Take two minutes and look around.

xXOpkillerXx 07-5-2018 09:38 PM

Re: New Songs! Coming?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by potasium56 (Post 4626747)
really, haven't seen any new level 20 to 40 songs....they must be favoring high level songs then.....or not adding them in batches to be noticeable. If new songs where added they would show in my unplayed list....have all songs played up to level 50 sooo if new songs were added between 1 to 40 it would be in there. right?

Just feel, high level songs outnumber mid level songs...

Difficulties range from 1 to 110. You ask for 20 to 40. That's about 18% of the whole range. With 2 new songs coming every 2 weeks, you'd have to expect approximately 1-(90/110)² = 33% chance to get one per release, and about 81% chance to get at least one per month. That being said, a 34 and a 30 were released in april. So yeah, I feel the rate is alright for the range you're asking for. Enjoy.

potasium56 07-5-2018 09:43 PM

Re: New Songs! Coming?
 
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Originally Posted by xXOpkillerXx (Post 4626750)
Difficulties range from 1 to 110. You ask for 20 to 40. That's about 18% of the whole range. With 2 new songs coming every 2 weeks, you'd have to expect approximately 1-(90/110)² = 33% chance to get one per release, and about 81% chance to get at least one per month. That being said, a 34 and a 30 were released in april. So yeah, I feel the rate is alright for the range you're asking for. Enjoy.

wow, 2 songs every 2 weeks is ridiculous. Add about 20 per 2 weeks

xXOpkillerXx 07-5-2018 09:45 PM

Re: New Songs! Coming?
 
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Originally Posted by potasium56 (Post 4626751)
wow, 2 songs every 2 weeks is ridiculous. Add about 20 per 2 weeks

wow, go for it m8 shit a few quality charts I can't wait to play them tommorow. Enjoy.

potasium56 07-5-2018 09:47 PM

Re: New Songs! Coming?
 
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Originally Posted by xXOpkillerXx (Post 4626752)
wow, go for it m8 shit a few quality charts I can't wait to play them tommorow. Enjoy.

you can't think the devs only get 2 songs with charts every 2 weeks.....they obvious have a stash of songs completed with charts stored and have conjob auto release 2 songs every 2 weeks.

I bet they have like 100+ songs already done, but choose to only release 2 every 2 weeks

xXOpkillerXx 07-5-2018 09:49 PM

Re: New Songs! Coming?
 
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Originally Posted by potasium56 (Post 4626753)
you can't think the devs only get 2 songs with charts every 2 weeks.....they obvious have a stash of songs completed with charts stored and have conjob auto release 2 songs every 2 weeks.

I bet they have like 100+ songs already to get released but choose to only release 2 ever 2 weeks

yeah it's a conspiracy, free the files already !!


ffs who are you

AutotelicBrown 07-5-2018 09:50 PM

Re: New Songs! Coming?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by potasium56 (Post 4626751)
wow, 2 songs every 2 weeks is ridiculous. Add about 20 per 2 weeks

I'll even dare say we should add 20 each week!

Quote:

Originally Posted by xXOpkillerXx (Post 4626750)
Difficulties range from 1 to 110. You ask for 20 to 40. That's about 18% of the whole range. With 2 new songs coming every 2 weeks, you'd have to expect approximately 1-(90/110)² = 33% chance to get one per release, and about 81% chance to get at least one per month. That being said, a 34 and a 30 were released in april. So yeah, I feel the rate is alright for the range you're asking for. Enjoy.

The distribution of songs per difficulty is closer to a Gaussian distribution.

potasium56 07-5-2018 09:52 PM

Re: New Songs! Coming?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by xXOpkillerXx (Post 4626755)
yeah it's a conspiracy, free the files already !!


ffs who are you

Well, i could be wrong and so could you, but i know they get more then 2 song submissions every 2 weeks.

xXOpkillerXx 07-5-2018 09:56 PM

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Look dude, I don't know how you would arrive to the conclusion that the admins gain anything by limiting the release rate, but somehow you did.

There are official tournaments every year, those require an important amount of file.

The files go through a judging system so that the ingame files are of the best quality.

Releases also bring interest to the game because it grows in content at a steady pace.


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Originally Posted by AutotelicBrown (Post 4626756)
The distribution of songs per difficulty is closer to a Gaussian distribution.

I know it's not equal obviously I simplified it. Is it really that close to a gaussian though ? Just curious.

potasium56 07-5-2018 10:02 PM

Re: New Songs! Coming?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by xXOpkillerXx (Post 4626760)
Look dude, I don't know how you would arrive to the conclusion that the admins gain anything by limiting the release rate, but somehow you did.

There are official tournaments every year, those require an important amount of file.

The files go through a judging system so that the ingame files are of the best quality.

Releases also bring interest to the game because it grows in content at a steady pace.

ugh, i know what your saying but 2 every 2 weeks is pretty strict. My conclusions is realistic you can't truly believe they only have 2 completed song every 2 weeks?

Anyways , im done arguing. The only way we will know who is right is if a devs tells us.

What ever the awnser is, would rather them release songs in bigger batches then 2 every 2 weeks...

xXOpkillerXx 07-5-2018 10:07 PM

Re: New Songs! Coming?
 
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Originally Posted by potasium56 (Post 4626761)
ugh, i know what your saying but 2 every 2 weeks is pretty strict. My conclusions is realistic you can't truly believe they only have 2 completed song every 2 weeks?

Anyways , im done arguing. The only way we will know who is right is if a devs tells us.

What ever the awnser is, would rather them release songs in bigger batches then 2 every 2 weeks...

There are something like 500+ songs in the 1-50 range that you've played only once or twice. If you're goal is to play 10k files and be done with the game that's up to you but like, you can't be complaining bout it you know.

Also, just for the sake of understanding your thoughts if possible, why are you suspicious at all ? What makes you believe that the admins keep files stored away voluntarily other than reasons I mentionned ?

the sun fan 07-5-2018 10:13 PM

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Originally Posted by potasium56 (Post 4626757)
Well, i could be wrong and so could you, but i know they get more then 2 song submissions every 2 weeks.

Its not necessarily about how many submissions they get every two weeks, because there are certain files that aren't going to be added because of whatever reason(s), but I remember someone complaining that there was a whole month that passed without a single submission previously.

AutotelicBrown 07-5-2018 10:19 PM

Re: New Songs! Coming?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by xXOpkillerXx (Post 4626760)
I know it's not equal obviously I simplified it. Is it really that close to a gaussian though ? Just curious.

From what I remember back when OWA still managed the ratings, they were intentionally tuned to follow a smooth curve, especially when the big overhaul was done. From a quick check over the public songs:

Range - Number of songs / Cumulative distribution
1 to 9 - 67 / 67
10 to 19 - 134 / 201
20 to 29 - 141 /342
30 to 39 - 196 / 518
40 to 49 - 196 / 714
50 to 59 - 280 / 994
60 to 69 - 383 / 1377
70 to 79 - 256 / 1633
80 to 89 - 187 / 1820
90 to 99 - 94 / 1914
100 to 110 - 24 / 1938

Not quite a Gaussian but it's unimodal with some weirdness on the lower end due to older files. If I had easy access to the data I'd check how the distribution looks like for different periods of time. I'd guess nowdays the average would be around FMO range.

potasium56 07-5-2018 10:22 PM

Re: New Songs! Coming?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by xXOpkillerXx (Post 4626764)
There are something like 500+ songs in the 1-50 range that you've played only once or twice. If you're goal is to play 10k files and be done with the game that's up to you but like, you can't be complaining bout it you know.

I have played all the songs from level 1 to 49 and 50 is too hard to be enjoyable to play. I'm just bored and want more level 30 to 49 songs to play cause 50 is not enjoyable... " Guess i could play etterna and just have endless amount of songs at least etterna give you the ability to add songs...

Quote:

Originally Posted by xXOpkillerXx (Post 4626764)
Also, just for the sake of understanding your thoughts if possible, why are you suspicious at all ? What makes you believe that the admins keep files stored away voluntarily other than reasons I mentionned ?

Cause they always would want songs to be released and not have none release. Anyone with common sense would know they get more then 2 song submissions each 2 week with the amount of visitors they get each month 288.33K.

So, lets say there are 5 songs that are accepted. So what does the ffr devs do with the extra 3 songs? "Store Them"..

xXOpkillerXx 07-5-2018 10:25 PM

Re: New Songs! Coming?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by AutotelicBrown (Post 4626767)
From what I remember back when OWA still managed the ratings, they were intentionally tuned to follow a smooth curve, especially when the big overhaul was done. From a quick check over the public songs:

Range - Number of songs / Cumulative distribution
1 to 9 - 67 / 67
10 to 19 - 134 / 201
20 to 29 - 141 /342
30 to 39 - 196 / 518
40 to 49 - 196 / 714
50 to 59 - 280 / 994
60 to 69 - 383 / 1377
70 to 79 - 256 / 1633
80 to 89 - 187 / 1820
90 to 99 - 94 / 1914
100 to 110 - 24 / 1938

Not quite a Gaussian but it's unimodal with some weirdness on the lower end due to older files. If I had easy access to the data I'd check how the distribution looks like for different periods of time. I'd guess nowdays the average would be around FMO range.

Oh that's neat. I should be complaining too since there are only ~5% of files in my [90,110] range !!! lmao

But yeah no matter is the release rate is one file per day or one file per year, Potasium's arguments are just air if he doesn't specify a solid reason as to why the admins would have malicious intent and kept the files for no good reason.


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