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No what I meant was that Death Piano is more like a mid 13 if you try comparing the songs with each other. I'm sick of seeing DP as the low cutoff for 13 when you also have other hard files that would make for good low 13 use.
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Also, what are the odds that we use 14 as well? It would seem to make more sense to me to bump Rato and maybe DP as well into their own category. |
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Oh whoops, sorry about that then
As for the 14 difficulty scale thing, I made a thread about 15 difficulty scale but I do remember saying that interest in helping with a 15 difficulty scale would matter on someone else getting control over setting difficulties on charts. |
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I don't see do I smile as being 13 worthy. I find it much more easier to PA than a whole bunch of the "high end FGO's" like slashmaid or freedom dive.
Although if it does get bumped, it'd be nice knowing that I have sub-150 goods on an FSO. :) |
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I think there should be a 15 diff. scale, since the area beyond 12's is very diverse..
12: current FGOs that do not need bumping 13: Crowdpleaser, A Quick Death, Scrap Syndrome, M8Bit 14: Milk Tei, Revo, Rave 7, Metro(?), do i smile, Rain 15: RATO, DP, p4u v1, Metro(?) |
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Also put the FSOs in approximate difficulty order. Someone with more insight than me would need to determine the bottom of the cutoff. Basically though, this is about what I'd like to see. |
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I wonder...how many votes* are required to make the necessary difficulty changes? It's probably going to be an arbitrary decision, but it would be nice to know when enough votes is enough.
*Actually, to put it to better words, how many and what percentage of votes are required to make a difficulty change? |
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It's difficult to set the definite lines of # of votes or percentage for the difficulty change.
If we set the nubmer of votes too high, songs people are generally uninterested (e.g. easier songs) won't get the conclusion, and if it's too low the decision can be easily biased to particular opinions. In general, 50 votes are considered to be enough, and less than 50 votes can be okay for some songs (uninterested ones, relatively obvious ones). As for the percentage, 70% of difficulty change votes might be enough at this point (This doesn't have to be the definite number either, though). With these votes, we game staff member will make the final conlusion. |
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Also, where would Tell v3 be? Jacks are pretty much my weakness, but those jacks just seem draining and the wall at the beginning is nonsensical. The NPS is quite low for an FGO, but you have to take into context that these are 95% jacks, which can't be judged the same way as say, Vertex BETA. |
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The difficulty order of current FGO/FSO songs (OLD 1-99 ratings) - beta
99 vrofl ------------------- ------------------- 96 RATO ------------------- 95 Death Piano ------------------- 94 Party 4U ------------------- 93 Metro 93 Revo ------------------- 92 Rave7 92 do i smile 92 Husigi 92 WWE 92 Almost There 92 A Quick Death ------------------- 91 Here We Go 91 Eclipse (Solar) 91 Grist 91 DeVouR 91 Chik Habit 91 Crowdpleaser 91 FREEDOM DiVE ------------------- 90 CCCP 90 M8BT 90 La Camp 90 Slashmaid 90 Music (for Kirby) 90 Scrap Syndrome 90 J'ai Envie de Plaisir X2 ------------------- 89 RWOB 89 Pandora 89 Grind2 89 Schmollbluk 89 Rage Template 89 One Minute Waltz 89 Rain 89 St. Scarhand 89 Tell v3 89 Piano Etude (Demon Fire) [Oni] ------------------- 88 Mathsma Attack 88 Grand Galop Chromatique 88 12 Bar Bloops 88 Molto Vivace 88 Zombie Sunset 88 Saddest RMX 88 RAN ------------------- 87 Hardkore Atomic 87 Necropotence 87 Coactive [Over My Shoulder Mix] 87 Tageri 87 Mephisto Waltz 87 Einstein-Rosen Bridge ------------------- 86 STRAWBERRY SWEETZ 86 Little God Channel 86 Kidney Stone 86 Electro Rush x8 v2 86 BEER 86 11ELEVEN 86 I Hate The 80s 86 ==Planet KARMA== ------------------- 85 Integraation 85 Holy Orders 85 Blue Rose 85 Pants 85 Mourning the Lost 85 Magical Higan Tour 2009 85 Sparkle Downer 85 Across Rooftops 85 Halcyon [Xi] 85 Nomina Nuda Tenemus ------------------- 84 Indo No Sobaya (t+pazolite Remix) 84 Tsugihagi Construction 84 Ketsarku Mozgalom 84 Jamais Deux 84 Gunkienen Tarusuigin 84 honki sentai majirenjaa 84 Reality 84 Frictional Nevada 84 The Adventures Of Lolo 84 Time to Eye suggestions? new FGO/FSO cutoff will be 90/91 or 92/91. ps vrofl was bumped up to 14, for now lmao |
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I think Rave7 and Metro should be equal.
BEER seems sorta easy for an 86. Still think TTE is an FMO. I dunno about AAA difficulty, but Chik Habit seems very easy to FC. |
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I don't join in on the overall discussion of difficulties because nothing seems to get done, but it seems like it might now. Prepare for long, but reasonable discussion paragraph:
Most people know my opinion, with the release of Eclipse Solar like two years ago I recommended a 15 point scale, I think that's ideal and as I've said many times, have no issues working out difficulty lists (in order of singular song difficulty) with OWA, Dossar, and anyone else who wants too as well. It's just it always just stops and dies, no one gives a shit for some reason. We currently have a 13 point scale. Making 13 a more official difficulty just remedies the idea of a joke category and the FGO gap. That's not really changing much. I still think the best way is 15 difficulty scale, with FEO (For Experts Only) taking high borderline VC's (74+) through mid FMO (79), FMO would be high FMO's and low FGO's (80-85) and then FGO would be (85-92?) with 13 representing anything harder than Almost There and CCCP (our 91's). Do I Smile would probably be the highest FGO in this case, the FSO would then be anything we deem reasonable above those points, and the 15th point would be strictly at this point for RATO, because even comparing RATO to DP is ridiculous, I can combo DP, I can't keep a 300+ combo in RATO. RATO would remain in the pinnacle 15, reserved for any other stupid file that for some reason we let in around RATO, and it will contain VROFL and other joke files. RATO still feels like a joke file to me, it's really not fair to compare it to DP, which I think is a good, but very challenging file. EDIT: Ninja'd by JX (99 point scale), but we should meld these together with the old songs as well. Willing to do so with OWA and Dossar who iirc both showed interest. Also for song order TTE should be ahead of Reality I can't believe you have it lower than FN and Lolo lmfao and FN should be THE lowest FGO, I don't know how any song currently rated FGO could be thought of as easier. Why the hell is Music for Kirby a 90? It's like 86 max. Lots of suggestions for the list JX, post them later, but it's just my opinion |
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BEER 85
Rave7 is much easier than Metro Also feel like Slashmaid or Scrap Syndrome should be 91.. |
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Actually I don't stick with this scale anymore, I'm just familiar with this grouping and merely wanted the difficulty order of FGO/FSO songs. 15 scale vs 99 scale discussion isn't concluded yet (due to the voting thread and staff opinions), we can consider something like 20 or 50 scales too.
okay BEER and CH can be bumped down by 1, at least. also added Feld to VC cutoff list. |
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Songs that have ONLY posts agreeing with the OP (regardless of post count):
mutant corecore (11 to 12) {Satori} v2 (9 to 8) do I smile? (12 to 13) Revo (debatable on what 2nd post meant) (12 to 13) Fast Asleep (10 to 11) what the f is this (9 to 10) {Firestorm} (8 to 9) The Final Fantasy (7 to 8) Clash on the Big Bridge (5 to 6) honki sentai majirenjaa -MAJI eurobeat version- (11 to 12) |
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