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DossarLX ODI 03-17-2019 04:39 AM

St Patrick's Day and Birthday Release 2019
 
Happy Saint Patrick's Day! For this release we have two new token charts for you to enjoy in addition to the celebration.

Today is also the birthday of our FFR Average Rank 1 player, One Winged Angel! Happy Birthday is the second shortest song ingame, behind Excite Bike.

Alice in misanthrope
Musician: LeaF
Step Artist: gameboy42690
Song Genre: Skill Token
Style: Gothic Choir
Difficulty: 82
Song Length: 2:25
* Pass Alice's Garden with at least 344 perfects and at least 172 max combo.

Happy Birthday
Musician: LEAF XCEED Music Division
Step Artist: hi19hi19
Song Genre: Skill Token
Style: Happy Rock
Difficulty: 49
Song Length: 0:17
* Pass Pita with 106 perfects and 20 boos.

mellonxcollie 03-17-2019 11:33 AM

Re: St Patrick's Day and Birthday Release 2019
 
Happy St Patrick's Day everybody :mrgreen:

XelNya 03-17-2019 04:35 PM

Re: St Patrick's Day and Birthday Release 2019
 
I don't know whose idea it was to put an antipa requirement on a file I made for a skill token, but I'd really appreciate it being changed. I don't think it's exactly a secret that I'm very adamantly against these types requirements, to where they would be completely removed where it up to me - in short I find it being left as is in very poor taste.

Thanks.

AutotelicBrown 03-17-2019 05:23 PM

Re: St Patrick's Day and Birthday Release 2019
 
Happy birthday Rob!

Curious about the Alice in misanthrope file as I considered stepping it before.

XelNya 03-21-2019 02:59 PM

Re: St Patrick's Day and Birthday Release 2019
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by XelNya (Post 4668974)
I don't know whose idea it was to put an antipa requirement on a file I made for a skill token, but I'd really appreciate it being changed. I don't think it's exactly a secret that I'm very adamantly against these types requirements, to where they would be completely removed where it up to me - in short I find it being left as is in very poor taste.

Thanks.

But really.

SK8R43 03-21-2019 03:50 PM

Re: St Patrick's Day and Birthday Release 2019
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by XelNya (Post 4668974)
I don't know whose idea it was to put an antipa requirement on a file I made for a skill token, but I'd really appreciate it being changed. I don't think it's exactly a secret that I'm very adamantly against these types requirements, to where they would be completely removed where it up to me - in short I find it being left as is in very poor taste.

Thanks.

LOLOLOLOLOLOL no. Its fine...

XelNya 03-21-2019 04:51 PM

Re: St Patrick's Day and Birthday Release 2019
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SK8R43 (Post 4669079)
LOLOLOLOLOLOL no. Its fine...

No, it's not.

Gradiant 03-21-2019 05:39 PM

Re: St Patrick's Day and Birthday Release 2019
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SK8R43 (Post 4669079)
LOLOLOLOLOLOL no. Its fine...

No

inDheart 03-21-2019 05:56 PM

Re: St Patrick's Day and Birthday Release 2019
 
on a scale of 0 to mcmillen, that's just -12 game design

XelNya 03-21-2019 10:46 PM

Re: St Patrick's Day and Birthday Release 2019
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by inDheart (Post 4669085)
on a scale of 0 to mcmillen, that's just -12 game design

It's less that I think they'll actually do it, but I had to ask anyways. It's not even about the questionable game design. An extreme comparison would be like mellon wearing a shirt with the c word she hates so much on it casually.

I don't like the hypocracy it implies. Even if I had no controll over it. At least an attempt has been made.

SK8R43 03-22-2019 02:28 AM

Re: St Patrick's Day and Birthday Release 2019
 
Bruh, stop being so fucking salty. Anti pa is part of the damn game. Like it or not, that doesnt change that...
Ffr isnt just about aaaing shit. Anti pa takes just as much skill, if not more and its definitely more fun.

Zageron 03-22-2019 12:52 PM

Re: St Patrick's Day and Birthday Release 2019
 
[notstaff] Let's err on the side of not being assholes. This is creative opinion entitlement, and XelNya is allowed to disagree and is hasn't been vicious about it. If you want to disagree, be civil about it rather than attacking. [/notstaff]

DossarLX ODI 03-23-2019 12:32 PM

Re: St Patrick's Day and Birthday Release 2019
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by XelNya (Post 4668974)
I don't know whose idea it was to put an antipa requirement on a file I made for a skill token, but I'd really appreciate it being changed. I don't think it's exactly a secret that I'm very adamantly against these types requirements, to where they would be completely removed where it up to me - in short I find it being left as is in very poor taste.

Thanks.

I've looked in the e-mail history and Alice in misanthrope was submitted by gameboy42690 for the Token Special Batch, with fixes sent Feb 4, 2017, 11:46 PM EST. Also see the Token Special Batch submission for that chart.

Are you talking about another file?

Edit: Looks like he's talking about Alice's Garden, which is the file to play to unlock Alice in misanthrope. I'll sort this out through PMs.

Gravity Kitten 03-23-2019 12:52 PM

Re: St Patrick's Day and Birthday Release 2019
 
#justiceforxelnya

SK8R43 03-23-2019 01:56 PM

Re: St Patrick's Day and Birthday Release 2019
 
lmaoooo its not even anti-pa, you literally get the combo from the beginning, miss at 172 then continue on. Not like the req is get 340 goods....

DossarLX ODI 03-23-2019 04:04 PM

Re: St Patrick's Day and Birthday Release 2019
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SK8R43 (Post 4669164)
lmaoooo its not even anti-pa, you literally get the combo from the beginning, miss at 172 then continue on. Not like the req is get 340 goods....

It's more of a discussion about stepartist rights. The requirement will be adjusted hopefully on Sunday.

AutotelicBrown 03-23-2019 05:31 PM

Re: St Patrick's Day and Birthday Release 2019
 
Can stepartists have the right to choose sensible genres for their charts as well, asking for a friend.

The way I see is that by sending a chart to FFR you are implicitly agreeing to how the game uses its content --- including anti-PA which is hardly a new thing.
Not that I don't consider it a nice courtesy to keep in mind individual stepartists' preferences given the community ran aspect of the game, but I believe you are giving up that right* once you submit something to the game.

* - I actually never checked if there are official terms of agreement for file submission written down anywhere.

SK8R43 03-24-2019 07:57 AM

Re: St Patrick's Day and Birthday Release 2019
 
I agree. By submitting a chart in the game i feel like you are giving up those rights. You dont see anyone else complaining... ?
Literally not even anti pa reqs. Pretty immature if you ask me and middie should just grow up and stop crying about a literal part of this game.
Ok in before ban. Was fun guys.
/rant over

DossarLX ODI 03-24-2019 03:10 PM

Re: St Patrick's Day and Birthday Release 2019
 
Alice in misanthrope's token requirement has been adjusted to the following:

Pass Alice's Garden with at least 344 perfects and at least 172 max combo.

The main difference here is that now you no longer need exactly 172 max combo. This means any score that is better will be satisfied; playing normally and getting an AAA satisfies the new requirement for example.

Quote:

Originally Posted by AutotelicBrown (Post 4669180)
Can stepartists have the right to choose sensible genres for their charts as well, asking for a friend.

The way I see is that by sending a chart to FFR you are implicitly agreeing to how the game uses its content --- including anti-PA which is hardly a new thing.
Not that I don't consider it a nice courtesy to keep in mind individual stepartists' preferences given the community ran aspect of the game, but I believe you are giving up that right* once you submit something to the game.

* - I actually never checked if there are official terms of agreement for file submission written down anywhere.

This sounds like an interesting discussion to have in a separate thread. :)

ositzxz369 03-24-2019 05:37 PM

Re: St Patrick's Day and Birthday Release 2019
 
I wouldn't want a token requirement on ANY song, since that limits the amount of people who can play it. I guess tokens can be a good thing if it forces people to play songs they wouldn't usually play, but then you'd have to grind for the token (which doesn't seem fun to me).

I think the reasons why there's few complaints about tokens is — 1. FFR community not big = not many potential complainers. 2. Complainers realize their words don't matter as stepfiles continue to have token requirements anyways. 3. Possible risk of having their stepfile not added in game due to disagreement about token requirements.

Anyways, this change on the token requirement of "Alice in misanthrope" is a positive surprise to me.


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