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roundbox 04-6-2020 04:21 PM

TWG Turbo 30 - The Nonary Werewolf Games [Postgame]
 

TWG Turbo 30: The Nonary Werewolf Games

Hosted by: roundbox (with help from Shadow_God_10)
Town Wins
MVP: fatfuck42

Player list:
1. mellon_collie Killed Night 3 - Mira, the Vanilla Town
2. the sun fan Voted out Day 3 - June, the Wolf Permanent Watcher
3. TWGma Voted out Day 2 - Junpei (999), the Wolf Permanent Watcher
4. Bolth mannn Voted out Day 0 - Eric, the Vanilla Town
5. fatfuck42 WON AT ENDGAME - Luna, the Vanilla Town
6. Hakulyte WON AT ENDGAME - Santa, the Vanilla Town
7. flashflash account Voted out Day 1 - Phi (VLR), the Town Permanent Roleblocker
8. Funnygurl555 Cold Kitten Killed Night 2 - Q, the Town One-shot Colour Cop
9. Tokzic Killed Night 1 - Alice, the Vanilla Town

Host comments: Setups are crazy, people. This one happened to be one of the more tame combinations as it avoided Vigi from Mira. That could have been a bloody one, I tell you. Aside from that, the main focus of this game is probably spent on the huge thunderdome during Day 1. A combination of factors led to TWGma narrowly avoiding the deadly end of the thunderdome, but his victory lap was a short one as he hammered himself after lolcatting for a bit.

Bolth mannn was very quick on the draw in identifying the wolf team. Unfortunately, you got killed right before you could tear into them more. MVP goes to plop for waving his town flag, sticking against the wolf team for inherently wolfy actions, and steering Haku away from dangerous waters at F3.

I do have some FAQs to add to one or two of the roles with some potential balance discussion on self-targeting. Usually self-targeting is a no-no, so we'd have to talk about stuff like the Coverup and their viability when their partner is dead.

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Setup
Setup roll: 4

mellon_collie as Mira


the sun fan as June - One-shot Bus Driver


TWGma as Junpei (999) - Permanent Watcher


Bolth mannn as Eric


fatfuck42 as Luna


Hakulyte as Santa


flashflash account as Phi (VLR) - Permanent Roleblocker


Cold Kitten as Q - One-shot Colour Cop


Tokzic as Alice


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Night Actions
N1
flashflash account blocks TWGma
the sun fan kills Tokzic
Cold Kitten colour checks Hakulyte [green]
TWGma watches flashflash account [blocked!]

N2
the sun fan bus drives mellon_collie and TWGma
TWGma kills Cold Kitten
TWGma watches mellon_collie [the sun fan and TWGma visited TWGma]

N3
the sun fan kills mellon_collie

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Deadchat: https://discord.gg/SVq59T
Wolfchat: WHENEVER DISCORD FIXES IT; REPORTED ERROR

roundbox 04-6-2020 04:22 PM

Re: TWG Turbo 30 - The Nonary Werewolf Games [Postgame]
 
lol @ wolves bus driving raeko and Force to get the result they did
aren't interactions fun?

Cold Kitten 04-6-2020 04:24 PM

Re: TWG Turbo 30 - The Nonary Werewolf Games [Postgame]
 
as promised:

****these are my high notes****

what if sunfan and ffa ARE the wolves after all

maybe they both decided to bus each other

sunfan and twgma definite possibility now, sunfan defending hard

why did sunfan start calling me by my name

what if sunfan is trying to give me the game by calling us by our names

raeko's sudden vote on ffa after my twgma vote not great

i feel like i'm getting punk'd no matter which way you spin it

T-Force 04-6-2020 04:25 PM

Re: TWG Turbo 30 - The Nonary Werewolf Games [Postgame]
 
Apologies to everyone for getting a little heated in the thunderdome.
Was the emotional post meant to gain sympathy? Little bit.
It partially came form a place of truth though. With all due respect, FFA, I don't car ehow mechanically clear YOU think you are, to people with no info, anything is fair game.

T-Force 04-6-2020 04:26 PM

Re: TWG Turbo 30 - The Nonary Werewolf Games [Postgame]
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Cold Kitten (Post 4725299)
as promised:

****these are my high notes****

what if sunfan and ffa ARE the wolves after all

maybe they both decided to bus each other

sunfan and twgma definite possibility now, sunfan defending hard

why did sunfan start calling me by my name

what if sunfan is trying to give me the game by calling us by our names

raeko's sudden vote on ffa after my twgma vote not great

i feel like i'm getting punk'd no matter which way you spin it


Cold Kitten 04-6-2020 04:33 PM

Re: TWG Turbo 30 - The Nonary Werewolf Games [Postgame]
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by T-Force (Post 4725301)

tbf, i ended up on the right outcome. i just thought it was me being paranoid ( :

Hakulyte 04-6-2020 04:48 PM

Re: TWG Turbo 30 - The Nonary Werewolf Games [Postgame]
 
I feel like this setup is hard to win as a wolf.

Charu 04-6-2020 04:52 PM

Re: TWG Turbo 30 - The Nonary Werewolf Games [Postgame]
 
I agree with T-Force about FFA not using logical reasoning to plead his case but instead doing the usual "I'm right and you're wrong" mentality.

However, I do think going for AoE's in general is a slippery slope. I've been down that road plenty of times myself, and I always feel like a complete jackass when I do it intentionally to get sympathy points.

But I guess that's just the nature of TWG/Mafia.

the sun fan 04-6-2020 04:54 PM

Re: TWG Turbo 30 - The Nonary Werewolf Games [Postgame]
 
I think ffa did totally fine

fatfuck42 04-6-2020 04:54 PM

Re: TWG Turbo 30 - The Nonary Werewolf Games [Postgame]
 
gg everybody! Glad everything worked out in the end!

Thanks roundbox for hosting! This is a great setup, both in terms of the setup itself and its theming. And I appreciate all the great ZE memes from t-force, lol. I'd love to play this again to see what other rolls we get.

I also really dig the turbo format. Small number of players means fewer potential blindspots. Everything's more cohesive. The 12 hour phases are nice too.

Really really sorry to bolth for the CFD. I got cold feet on t-force for posting the same way he did as boomer, and I caught ffa's soft so I was lost on what to do there.

I think if sunfan had pushed haku over me in the final phase there's an ever-so-slight chance I would've believed it. Those posts from twgma trying to defend the green check when CK was questioning it had me paranoid!

Thanks again for playing, everyone! Lots of fun as always.

Cold Kitten 04-6-2020 04:55 PM

Re: TWG Turbo 30 - The Nonary Werewolf Games [Postgame]
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Charu (Post 4725304)
But I guess that's just the nature of TWG/Mafia.

i mean, this is how i feel. the goal is to convince everyone through any means necessary. i feel like, at one point, trevor's AoE would've just made me angry but i already congratulated him on a good play, because it worked. i was the hammer and he (combined with ffa being ffa) got me to vote where he wanted me to.

Cold Kitten 04-6-2020 04:56 PM

Re: TWG Turbo 30 - The Nonary Werewolf Games [Postgame]
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by fatfuck42 (Post 4725306)
gg everybody! Glad everything worked out in the end!

Thanks roundbox for hosting! This is a great setup, both in terms of the setup itself and its theming. And I appreciate all the great ZE memes from t-force, lol. I'd love to play this again to see what other rolls we get.

I also really dig the turbo format. Small number of players means fewer potential blindspots. Everything's more cohesive. The 12 hour phases are nice too.

Really really sorry to bolth for the CFD. I got cold feet on t-force for posting the same way he did as boomer, and I caught ffa's soft so I was lost on what to do there.

I think if sunfan had pushed haku over me in the final phase there's an ever-so-slight chance I would've believed it. Those posts from twgma trying to defend the green check when CK was questioning it had me paranoid!

Thanks again for playing, everyone! Lots of fun as always.

i'm glad i wasn't the only seriously considering the possibility of haku actually being covered. it seemed like a glaring thing to me that no one else was considering and i know it was an unlikely situation but still possible

fatfuck42 04-6-2020 04:58 PM

Re: TWG Turbo 30 - The Nonary Werewolf Games [Postgame]
 
With logical plays, you still have to be diplomatic about it, especially if someone else doesn't see it the way you do and you need to convince them. With AtE, you still have to have some logic behind it, otherwise it's just empty emotion.

And even leaving aside moral issues, you can't really pull big AtEs more than once. If I was a wolf posting like I did to haku at the end, my meta would be fucked forever.

fatfuck42 04-6-2020 04:59 PM

Re: TWG Turbo 30 - The Nonary Werewolf Games [Postgame]
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Cold Kitten (Post 4725308)
i'm glad i wasn't the only seriously considering the possibility of haku actually being covered. it seemed like a glaring thing to me that no one else was considering and i know it was an unlikely situation but still possible

It became more and more plausible as the game went on too, lol. I'm so happy it wasn't the case!

mellon_collie 04-6-2020 05:10 PM

Re: TWG Turbo 30 - The Nonary Werewolf Games [Postgame]
 
I feel like AtE is impossible for me to avoid. I'm just an emotional person and it's really easy for me to get ranty O_O

When I'm wolfing I have to try really hard not to get too emotional about things because I do feel bad, but the emotion is for the most part genuinely real to me and I don't know if I could completely turn it off.

GG everybody! I'm glad town was able to pull through in the end. Definitely agree with the MVP pick as well

flashflash account 04-6-2020 05:58 PM

Re: TWG Turbo 30 - The Nonary Werewolf Games [Postgame]
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Charu (Post 4725304)
I agree with T-Force about FFA not using logical reasoning to plead his case

this is false
everything i said was logical reasoning, were you even reading?

Bolth mannn 04-6-2020 06:37 PM

Re: TWG Turbo 30 - The Nonary Werewolf Games [Postgame]
 
Plop STOP KILLING ME FIRST PHASE WHEN IM TOWN LMAO

had a lot of fun guys even though I was only in it for a short time :p

Ps guessed wolves correctly before anyone else fuck yall

dAnceguy117 04-6-2020 06:40 PM

Re: TWG Turbo 30 - The Nonary Werewolf Games [Postgame]
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bolth mannn (Post 4725317)
Plop STOP KILLING ME FIRST PHASE WHEN IM TOWN LMAO

It's gotta be the avatar bro

Bolth mannn 04-6-2020 06:45 PM

Re: TWG Turbo 30 - The Nonary Werewolf Games [Postgame]
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dAnceguy117 (Post 4725318)
It's gotta be the avatar bro



Dunno why my avatar might make it seem Im not town, weird

Cold Kitten 04-6-2020 06:46 PM

Re: TWG Turbo 30 - The Nonary Werewolf Games [Postgame]
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bolth mannn (Post 4725320)
Dunno why my avatar might make it seem Im not town, weird

it's.... it's because it's a wolf....


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