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DaBackpack 10-22-2018 07:38 PM

Re: TWGXXXI - TWGreeD - Game Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Syhto (Post 4651808)
mixmasterlar

You are being pretty forward, trying to start posting before day phase even began, bringing up inactivity quickly and making calls about it. It may just be that you are eager to play, but, to me you seem a bit jumpy and it makes you seem more like a wolf than anyone else currently.

This is the first serious read in this game, and actually happened in the middle of the shitposting phase. Who's actually the eager one here?

it's an easy enough thing to notice and "put a read to" in order to seem ahead of the curve but it's a nothing-read

inDheart 10-22-2018 07:39 PM

Re: TWGXXXI - TWGreeD - Game Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by roundbox (Post 4651989)
people not being mongoloids and openly strategizing whether they'll take the power or not? why wait for it to happen and then scream at the person for doing it?

I swear people will never agree with me on any sort of strategy in a mystery game ever
it's an inevitability at this point

wait am i screwin it up

if you're saying "don't openly strategize" then i agree with you and we're on the same page

i'm just like, ??? at how divorced not openly strategizing is from what we do in other games, but i see further down you're talking about the selection thing, i think, rather than actually using powers

so ok that's something. i think it's like, similar in that it just paints a target on you for the following night when said power would be active

DaBackpack 10-22-2018 07:40 PM

Re: TWGXXXI - TWGreeD - Game Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MixMasterLar (Post 4651810)
The notion that wolves are "jumpy" day 1 on this site is so laughably wrong.

got em

Charu 10-22-2018 07:41 PM

Re: TWGXXXI - TWGreeD - Game Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Syhto (Post 4652033)
They do know the game is on though right?

They must've since, as stated, they're very much still in the game and not replaced as per stated by the host message in twilight.

inDheart 10-22-2018 07:41 PM

Re: TWGXXXI - TWGreeD - Game Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by roundbox (Post 4651993)
it's different in the fact that people can opt to receive a power or not

the only diminishing returns that are possible asking for more powers are:
1) weaker powers in large quantities
2) if wolves guess number of roles within 1, half of the roles get sabotaged

I would say that this is different than "what we do every game" easily
not to mention most people shot it down and defaulted to the "what we do every game" mindset

like, if you're arriving at "it's a personal decision and so we shouldn't talk about which end of it we're on publicly", that's what i'm thinking of as ~every game

people who are PRs in a conventional game don't want to show it abundantly so they can get mileage. it's still hidden info type stuff

DaBackpack 10-22-2018 07:41 PM

Re: TWGXXXI - TWGreeD - Game Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Syhto (Post 4651814)
Oh. I havent played with you guys a lot, so please pardon my "fucking wrong", "stupid contrived" reasons for voting for you half way through the first day phase. Thanks for the reaction though, good insight.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Syhto (Post 4651815)
Also, I'd rather try and start talking and voting for people now than just wagon on a random person at the last moment. That seems to not do so well, and would probably be better than you guys shooting the shit until it SUDDENLY ~gets tense~

has syhto ever played before?

DaBackpack 10-22-2018 07:42 PM

Re: TWGXXXI - TWGreeD - Game Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MixMasterLar (Post 4651817)
Good luck with that. Nothing's happened yet except you 're tryharding. Which I mean it seems by your reasoning would make you a wolf but I don't think That's a solid enough action to vote someone seriously halfway through D0

lar's town

Wayward Vagabond 10-22-2018 07:43 PM

Re: TWGXXXI - TWGreeD - Game Thread
 
Syhto rolled wolf two times in a row iirc

DaBackpack 10-22-2018 07:43 PM

Re: TWGXXXI - TWGreeD - Game Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by the sun fan (Post 4651825)
to be fair, some wolves are jumpy

what is the point of this post sunfan?

inDheart 10-22-2018 07:45 PM

Re: TWGXXXI - TWGreeD - Game Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MixMasterLar (Post 4652010)
Also all I said was I was going to pick between inactives.


When the fuck did that turn into "Lynch Pearl"

It smells of ulterior motives if you ask me, and while Charu first mentioned anti pearl, it's InD's vote that smells the worst

i think you answered your own question to manti there

inDheart 10-22-2018 07:47 PM

Re: TWGXXXI - TWGreeD - Game Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Precarious (Post 4652012)
So unless I'm blind, no one has talked about this post much, and we really should. Because this is a dumbtell, right?

i feel like i have somehow never read that post before

sorry roundbox, pretty sure that'd be what you're responding to

Precarious 10-22-2018 07:47 PM

Re: TWGXXXI - TWGreeD - Game Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MixMasterLar (Post 4652029)
What part of that is a dumbtell?
What the fuck are you going on about?
I'm against claiming btw since that looks to be in question.

Quoting the relevant post again:

Quote:

Originally Posted by MixMasterLar (Post 4651882)
I thought about just claiming if you asked for a role or not.

I read this as, "rather than roleclaiming, we could just say if we requested a role."

Quote:

Wolves probably already have an idea since their roles are affected by how many of us ask to be blue so that information probably benefits town a little more---but in the event only 2 of us asked that straight up tells the wolves who's the strongest and who to kill so I don't really favor this plan either.
Your reasoning, apparently, is that wolves can probably approximate our blue roles by their status. It's true that the number of town blues affects wolf blue powers, and vice versa. But there's absolutely no indicator of how that works--and that's a good thing for us, because your plan ignores the fact that the wolves can sabotage our roles and even steal one if they guess the number of claimants correctly.

You do, ultimately, decide that your bad idea is in fact a bad idea, but for an unrelated reason.

Quote:

-but in the event only 2 of us asked that straight up tells the wolves who's the strongest and who to kill so I don't really favor this plan either.
Basically, you dismissed the idea because if it happens that very few people requested a role, then the wolves would be able to target one of a small number of blues. At no point do you intimate any awareness that informing the wolves of our numbers would enable them to use their guessing power accurately.

Thus, your idea--even if dismissed for unrelated reasons--ignores the very obvious structural reason that it would be catastrophic. Hence the dumbtell--the wolves would be aware of what they can do, and how they'd benefit from that strategy. Your subsequent post:

Quote:

Originally Posted by MixMasterLar (Post 4651884)
Didn't see that second Roundbox post. That's quite the padded post you got there.

I think it's absolutely best if we keep mum on it for now, possibly for most of the game.

Seems to confirm my interpretation. I basically read the above as:

"I didn't see roundbox's post before. Now that I've read it"--and note that roundbox's post alludes to the possibility of the wolf sabotage--"it's best to keep quiet on those discussions."

DaBackpack 10-22-2018 07:47 PM

Re: TWGXXXI - TWGreeD - Game Thread
 
also re: current discussion I think in a completely open game like this it's better to lynch inactives early game because they are an especially big liability later on

stares threateningly at inactives / lowposters

Syhto 10-22-2018 07:48 PM

Re: TWGXXXI - TWGreeD - Game Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by DaBackpack (Post 4652034)
This is the first serious read in this game, and actually happened in the middle of the shitposting phase. Who's actually the eager one here?

it's an easy enough thing to notice and "put a read to" in order to seem ahead of the curve but it's a nothing-read

Excuse my candidness, if anything is fucking stupid, it is this "shitposting phase" that is so clung to here. What is the point of even having a d0 when all y'all seem to do is complain about not having anything to go on the whole time, and then give me crap for voicing my opinion to get something going?

Please be aware, that was not a "serious" vote for mml. That was a vote to try and, yes, get the ball rolling and get a feel for the players here. I really don't care if you think the reasoning was unsound, as it was not an actual accusation. It was a move based on feeling, that I attempted to back up a little bit with words. Although it is mostly just feeling. And obvious, that this early on I can change my mind easily based on the reactions that occur.

the sun fan 10-22-2018 07:49 PM

Re: TWGXXXI - TWGreeD - Game Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by DaBackpack (Post 4652042)
what is the point of this post sunfan?

that, in all fairness, some wolves are jumpy, which was syhto's point.
its not the worst d0 accusation by any means

Charu 10-22-2018 07:50 PM

Re: TWGXXXI - TWGreeD - Game Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Syhto (Post 4652047)
Excuse my candidness, if anything is fucking stupid, it is this "shitposting phase" that is so clung to here. What is the point of even having a d0 when all y'all seem to do is complain about not having anything to go on the whole time, and then give me crap for voicing my opinion to get something going?

Please be aware, that was not a "serious" vote for mml. That was a vote to try and, yes, get the ball rolling and get a feel for the players here. I really don't care if you think the reasoning was unsound, as it was not an actual accusation. It was a move based on feeling, that I attempted to back up a little bit with words. Although it is mostly just feeling. And obvious, that this early on I can change my mind easily based on the reactions that occur.

Feisty, dohoho

DaBackpack 10-22-2018 07:51 PM

Re: TWGXXXI - TWGreeD - Game Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by the sun fan (Post 4652048)
that, in all fairness, some wolves are jumpy, which was syhto's point.
its not the worst d0 accusation by any means

Quote:

Originally Posted by the sun fan (Post 4651842)
just so I say something
I know its early and I know its surface level but I like both Lar and Syhto

ok goodbye whee

that post and this post look like you're disarming the argument between the two

the sun fan 10-22-2018 07:52 PM

Re: TWGXXXI - TWGreeD - Game Thread
 
syhto is town
a town in a world where people speak a mutually intelligible language as her

DaBackpack 10-22-2018 07:52 PM

Re: TWGXXXI - TWGreeD - Game Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hakulyte (Post 4651845)
I'm fine with Syhto/MML too unsurprisingly.

unsurprisingly?

DaBackpack 10-22-2018 07:52 PM

Re: TWGXXXI - TWGreeD - Game Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by the sun fan (Post 4652051)
syhto is town
a town in a world where people speak a mutually intelligible language as her

was this something you decided before or after you intervened?


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