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this isn't a politics discussion, dw guys

but i was wondering to what extent are you okay with having a relationship (platonic or romatic) with a person with differing political views?

personally i'm liberal and i'm fine being friends with people who are conservative, but i don't think i could be friends with alt-right people.

this just popped into my head because i realized i have a friend who... likes alt-right political "pundits," and that was... disappointing to learn? but i don't know if it means i should try to avoid said friend. i just can't fathom subscribing to those views. what i don't understand scares me.

edit: romantically my answers would be about the same, but i'd want to align on certain social views (e.g. gotta've been for same sex marriage, or for lgbtq+ rights in general)

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Platonic: For me things are on a view by view basis, you can think it's morally wrong for gay marriage, but if you're in the "should not be legal" camp I'd probably keep you at more of a distance for example. I know I'm a tad out in some areas of politics, namely social politics, but I think it's fun to chat about it.

Romantic: My current girlfriend and I are really similar, but I couldn't be with a strong alt-right person.

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Be weary of people whose beliefs aren't rooted in compassion for others. Cut people off if they show signs of progressing down a radicalization pipeline. Talk and synthesize ideas with anyone else.

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i had the worst dream last night that jordan peterson and ben shapiro were trying to sleep with me

that's what i get for making threads like this before i go to bed

wise words man

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It all comes down to what your working relationship with this person is. (Friend, family, lover, etc.) Does this person's behaviors and attitudes affect your interactions with them in the relevant contexts. My coworker might be a Trump supporter but that doesn't factor in to how I present myself to him. But if he repeatedly talked about Trump and white supremacy in the office, that would make people uncomfortable and I'd report him.

Naturally our romantic expectations are higher and people generally expect strong value alignment with their partners. My mom and her ex-boyfriend were diametrically opposed politically and those specific kinds of values were very important to them, so they ended up annoying each other. One of my little sister's previous boyfriends was pretty far-right but she didn't care because her core values lay elsewhere. (She eventually broke up with him because he lived like an animal and wouldn't clean up after himself.)

So the answer to your question is personal. Usually you "feel it" before you notice it.

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I don’t talk about politics with anyone because it just drives people away from each other and creates toxic environments. I used to love talking about it, but now I’m of the opinion that politics don’t effect most 75% of our lives, so I don’t bother about it. Having different opinions from someone is okay and I’d be fine with it, just don’t talk about politics and talk about something else.

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idt anyone should be taking the divergent series that seriously as the basis of a political system but

as for the actual question, there're a couple firm lines i'm not inclined to pretend don't exist, and i think having those can be fine. people purity test each other over more frivolous stuff already

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I'm a conservative and I assume leftists are good people with good intentions until they prove otherwise.
If someone can't show me that same baseline level of good faith and are instead condescending then they're not worth my time.

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I respect it.

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Conservatives are on average more attractive. If I were a liberal or of any political alignment I would not have an issue with an attractive boyf-... significant other.

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i did say on average. that guy is an outlyer, he obviously doesnt represent the majority of goodlooking conservatives

still cuter than irrelephant republicans tho

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I don't mind divergent political opinions as long as you're not a fucking dipshit
the main issues I have are with chuds and people who say shit like "I don't care about politics", which is really them just saying "I'm privileged and the status quo doesn't affect me personally"


hmu

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There isn't a black and white answer for this. However, if I notice someone obsessing over grouping people into two buckets/labels constantly, that's a huge red flag.

What does promoting anger and labeling do in a relationship where there's supposed to be mutual respect and commitment? It destroys it.

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My views are do no harm and take no shit.

Platonic, you only need the first

Romantic, both


I have a hard time making decisions based off other people's views though, cuz I haven't found anything that I passionately agree or relate with to say " I am this ism". Because of that I don't really think I have any say so long as it's not hurting me personally. They could be right or wrong, but at least they have something that is worth being right or wrong over.

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I think in purely platonic relationships it''s actually interesting to have friends with divergent political views. It allows you to have interesting discussions. What I cant stand are people that are completely unwilling to listen to other people''s opinions and views. I''m personally heavily left leaning by US standards (I live in the Netherlands). But I've had conservative friends in the past that have shifted towards more liberal viewpoints over time.

As for romantic relationships it''s entirely dependant on how much we actually talk about social issues.

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Platonically: I'd like to think I can get along with anyone that has the same standards of evidence as I do and doesn't argue in a way that makes me angry. I think common interests are more often what starts friendships than common opinions, for me.

Romantically: Same standards as platonic, plus (1) I want absolute honesty, and (2) there are certain things I don't think I'll ever be able to prove or make a convincing argument about, but are still important to me, and when it comes to who I allow to hypothetically have deep influence on me and my future child, I think I'd have to align with them on those things.

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i dont think ive ever talked about politics with another person and i plan to keep it that way so my ideal person for both would be someone who doesn't care about politics

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I honestly don't like having relationships with people that are extremists in either direction. The best people are the ones who put good thought and evidence into what they're opinions are. This may be shallow of me, but I don't believe I could happily be friends with someone with an extreme liberal or conservative agenda. Always being set on politics is something I've seen in a lot of people, and I just think of people better if they don't live their life and hate people based on whatever "side" they're on.

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Certainly political tribalism is bad, but I don't see the connection between these first two sentences. I think there are a number of people with radical perspectives that "got there" through experience, logic, and evidence--- e.g. Kant, Hegel, Marx, Nietsche. Not everyone is a political scientist but I'm not so inclined to dismiss people with strong convictions simply because they stray far from center

Tribalism "us vs. them" is a different issue entirely

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it's not shallow, it's certainly privileged tho

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I don't see privilege there, we choose our friends. If you don't want to be friends with a certain kind of person, that's your call.

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You definitely contribute to the word 'privileged' making me laugh hahah

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i agree w/ choof here. for someone to not be affected by new policies, there's a certain level of stability you must have. politics has had huge effects on my life. granted, i'm privileged in many other ways.

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choof is right. Also, responding to sincere beliefs with mockery is typically a trait of people you should distance yourself from. These individuals aren't interested in personal development outside of trying to maintain their fragile sense of self by putting others down.

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hhh

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ye I have certain privileges that make my life better than some other ppl
being aware of that is a pretty good step towards learning compassion and understanding for ppl who don't have the same means as you do

being of a certain status that affords you the ability to ignore or not pay attention to certain or all legs of politics is a form of privilege. altho this might be lost on a pepe posting retard like you, I don't rly expect idiots like you to be mentally capable of empathy

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When someone is foolish you should focus on pitying them instead of get angry at them. Also don't call people retards, idiot.

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sorry you're right, reddit told me I should be more nuanced w/ my ableism
I didn't mean to call you a retard bub, maybe mouthbreather is more accurate

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Thanks for the entertainment lol

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i knew this would happen

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qft

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its ok let choof keep posting ableist slurs in the main forums so he can actually cop a ban for it

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damn if it really offends you that much I'll chill

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It’s not about offending me, or anyone really. It’s about having a standard of decency. That standard is clearly outlined in the forum rules, as well as the consequences of breaking them. If you don’t want to play by the rules, either post in tgb or face the consequences. It’s really simple stuff.

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the rules lawyer has logged on

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When it comes to enforcing da rules, I'd like to see myself more of a Jorgen Von Strangle than a lawyer.

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melonpapes please get your hypocritical troubled emotionally immature dumbass self back into tgb

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chuds like you don't deserve decency tbh but you got it mom I'll play nice

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this thread is bait for arguments to happen, lmao.

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when you preface a thread with "this isn't a politics discussion, dw guys" then I think it's probabbbbly gonna be one

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ftr i report papes' signature every couple months and nothing's happened with it so ig rules are immaterial anyway

something something adversarial though

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^what's wrong with melonpapes sig?

but to answer the thread question politics don't really play a roll in who I make friends with.. but I'll avoid the extremist in either direction. I judge people more based off this feeling I get inside when I talk/hangout with them.. you know... intuition. Also sense of humor :D

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Sig quoting memorable lines has been a thing since the inception of the forum, you wanna ban my sig, have fun banning just about every users fuckin' sig you dopes

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Violating someone's consent is a huge red flag imo. Additionally doing it to mock that person is another one. Trying to justify it with rules lawyering is straight up sociopathic. Definitely sets of similar alarm bells to me that something like a dog kicker does.

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huge difference between quoting someone like midnight saying some dumb shit like "bitch pussy smell like a penguin" and quoting someone expressly asking you to keep them out of their sig as well as mocking their name with a second quote

funnygurl saying "please don't put me in your sig" is memorable in that it shows us how much she dislikes you, it's not memorable because it's particularly funny or clever or something

so quit being a cunt

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yknow what, you guys actually managed to change my mind, i shouldnt bully FG in my sig. But, the initial inclusion of her was a consequence of her reply to aperson. there was no bully intended. i thought the question and the reply were hilarious. the other two, well, i can't bullshit you.

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how could anyone kick this lovely boy

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implying you'd even be able to manage a kick

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my right leg (good leg) is perfectly fine, but i appreciate the continued ableism choof, its very on brand

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why dont you take the F-scale test Choof? :^) i wanna see how you scale on the authoritarian/destructive/cynical front compared to other users

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it's time for y'all to take a break and kiss

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*gives choof a sloppy wet kissy kiss*

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this is literally where the da in my name comes from

I'm not kidding, it's from "da rules"