Flash Flash Revolution - hi19hi19's Delicious Custom Theme Tournament

So after doing all three scoring types I had two credits left over.
These went to qqwref for being an awesome co-host :p
Thanks a lot for all your help man, much appreciated. I hope you enjoyed this as much as I did!

I also sent sticklydude 35k from my own pocket for being really cool with being moved a division in the middle of the tournament.
Thanks for being such a good sport dude, this is the least I can do to show my appreciation.

Okay the main questions I wanted to ask were:

Did you actually find the PMs I sent for the start of the first few rounds useful?

-and-

Now that you see the final results, what scoring type(s) do you prefer for a tournament of this structure and difficulty?

EDIT- ALSO!
I will be finishing the pack of files used in this tournament as soon as possible.
Really I'm stuck, because I want the files to have decent graphics but I suck at making graphics. I've been learning but it's a slow process.
I'll be finishing that task up as soon as I can.
If this thread is locked before I finish, you'll be able to find the pack in the Stepmania forum when it's ready to be released!

EzExZeRo7497

04-30-2012 05:56 AM

Re: hi19hi19's Delicious Custom Theme Tournament

I found it to be pretty useful. Also I prefer cumulative scoring. Better room for comeback, but it might cause a lot of unfairness to people who did really well for the first 6 rounds and then got annihilated at the last round for tournaments (Brutality-themed) like this.

All in all very nice tournament, I really love tournaments like these, non-AAA fest tourneys. :)

Jake Ferguson

04-30-2012 05:59 AM

Re: hi19hi19's Delicious Custom Theme Tournament

Yes the PMs were helpful since I almost forgot about the tournament until I got an email saying you messaged me.

And I actually really like how you did all three types of scoring since it ended up with basically everybody getting credits which is cool.
It would've been impossible to do this if you hadn't of had the over 3,000,000 credit pot though so it's a good thing people were so generous.

Only thing bad about this way is having so much to do all at the end, unless you get the individual round scores out of the way each time a round ends.

Basically, this tournament was awesome and host another one soon :)

hi19hi19

04-30-2012 06:07 AM

Re: hi19hi19's Delicious Custom Theme Tournament

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jake Ferguson (Post 3685021)

Yes the PMs were helpful since I almost forgot about the tournament until I got an email saying you messaged me.

Ah, good to know!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jake Ferguson (Post 3685021)

Basically, this tournament was awesome and host another one soon :)

I actually have enough finished files to hold another custom tournament right now lol
But I will probably wait about 4 months for two reasons: the first is that Jae put me on the "bad boy list" for taking too long to do the credits so I can't hold another tournament for a few months until my time-out is over. Also the more practical reason is I'm busy as hell and these things take a lot of work haha. If someone else wants to run the tournament for me with my files feel free to PM me lmao, otherwise maybe this autumn :)

Thanks jake and Eze for the comments, anyone else feel free to chip in too! Part of the reason I did all three scoring types was an experiment so I'd really like to know what people think about that.

reuben_tate

04-30-2012 06:32 AM

Re: hi19hi19's Delicious Custom Theme Tournament

I think tournament points is a good system to use, it makes it so the earlier rounds have an equal weight compared to the later rounds, since the difference in scores for the early rounds are usually so minute. Anyways, thanks for the credz, 10/10, would join again. :3

As for the reminder pm's, I usually kept up with the thread myself, but I still think they are useful anyways, especially for the people that don't keep up with tourney threads.

Plan_Bsk81127

04-30-2012 06:38 AM

Re: hi19hi19's Delicious Custom Theme Tournament

About time lol. :P

qqwref

04-30-2012 08:26 AM

Re: hi19hi19's Delicious Custom Theme Tournament

I think I got more credits on side games than on the actual tournament ._.

It was fun though! :D Great files, and good competition within the division.

pikakirby123

04-30-2012 08:50 AM

Re: hi19hi19's Delicious Custom Theme Tournament

I really enjoyed this tournament. Out of the few tournaments I've done, this has definitely been my favorite. I liked all of the files (even Freefall :P ) even though at the time they were really hard for me. It was a nice mix and didn't focus too much on any one skillset. I actually went back and played all of them and supped my scores by huge amounts so it's cool to see how much my skill has changed since then. Thanks for hosting a great tournament!

Edit: The PMs were a nice reminder, especially since I forgot about Round 3... >.< Also, I think I prefer tournament points because in the later levels when difficulties really spike the difference in points can easily overwhelm any hard work you may have put in on the earlier rounds because the scores will be so different.

icontrolyourworld

04-30-2012 09:10 AM

Re: hi19hi19's Delicious Custom Theme Tournament

woo! Again awesome tourney, the side games were really creative and fun too :D (and thanks for the credits)

Winrar

04-30-2012 12:13 PM

Re: hi19hi19's Delicious Custom Theme Tournament

Thanks for (finally ;P) distributing the credits. I honestly loved the rivalry in this tournament and the songs were amazing! It gave myself and possibly others some major skillboosts.
You can count on me joining your next one <3

noname219

04-30-2012 02:03 PM

Re: hi19hi19's Delicious Custom Theme Tournament

Code:

Credits        User                        Division

195,000        Breakdown16                D4B (Freedom Dive)

191,500        noname219                D3B (Freedom Dive)

183,000        RadiantVibe                D2A (Freedom Dive)

182,000        FrozenAngel91                D3A (Freedom Dive)

178,000        DossarLX ODI                D5A (Freedom Dive)

176,000        EzExZeRo7497                D5B

166,833        Khenra                        D1 (Freedom Dive)

154,000        Tidus810                D5D (Freedom Dive)

150,333        dvaskate                D2B (Freedom Dive)

148,500        sanzath                        D4A (Freedom Dive)

140,500        Plan_Bsk81127                D5C (Freedom Dive)

105,333        Jake Ferguson                D1

102,833        TheThong                D2B

90,000        alloyus                        D5B

87,500        MrPreggers                D4A

83,000        One Winged Angel        D5B

78,000        Arbliterator                D4B

75,500        sticklydude                D4A

69,500        Zakvvv666                D4B

67,333        pikakirby123                D1

65,000        Findarian                D5D

61,000        icontrolyourworld        D5C

58,502        qqwref                        D4A

58,000        bballa48                D5C

58,000        megamon88                D4A

56,500        magicturbo                D3B

54,500        JJTrixX                        D2A

54,000        DissonantMuse                D3A

51,000        Elite Ninja                D5D

50,000        yo man im awesome        D5C

48,500        Winrar                        D2A

46,333        popsicle_3000                D2B

44,500        tofurox                        D3A

44,001        justin_ator                D5C

39,000        Anaru                        D5A

33,500        Zekramcross                D3B

31,500        xXOpkillerXx                D5B

30,000        CammyGoesRawr                D4B

24,000        Xx{Midnight}xX                D4B

19,000        Poison-                        D4A

18,500        Ninty64                        D5C

18,000        flipsta_lombax                D5D

17,000        who_cares973                D4A

16,500        Crazyjayde                D3B

13,500        krunkykai22                D5C

13,000        U.N. Owen                D5D

12,000        wildfireskunk                D2A

11,500        reuben_tate                D4B

11,500        typing like wat                D2B

11,000        devonin                        D1

10,500        FFRGreen                D3B

10,500        .Gazelle.                D3A

10,000        sjoecool1991                D4A

9,500        Samwais                        D2A

9,000        zegsigma                D2B

6,500        Cyth The Raccoon        D3A

6,000        Puzzler64                D1

4,000        PriestREA                D3A

2,000        JSH                        D2B

2,000        Kirby615                D5D

2,000        rparty89                D1

1,500        The_Toymaker                D4A

1,500        _Zenith_                D5C

500        Trogdor!!!!                D4A

0        00Razor00                D5C

0        AlexDest                D5A

0        Checked_Out                D2B

0        Colour Stream                D2A

0        Coolboyrulez0                D5C

0        FontSize72LOL                D4A

0        Frans813                D1

0        Hateandhatred                D3A

0        Herogashix                D5C

0        hi19hi19                D5D

0        j-rodd123                D4B

0        kmay                        D5D

0        musical_vampire                D1

0        noi-or-e                D2A

0        prefx                        D4A

0        rayword45                D4A

0        rsr2                        D3B

0        rushyrulz                D5C

0        SD_Tsugamush                D4A

0        slipknot_6969                D1

0        Sweet_Feet                D4A

0        Tarrik                        D5C

0        TC_Halogen                D5A

0        TK_unreal                D5B

0        UserNameGoesHere        D2B

0        WSCB                        D4A

0        x_lambourghini_x        D1

0        xVaLoRx                        D3B

0        xXAll-ProXx                D5C

3,769,501        Total credits

Khenra

04-30-2012 07:27 PM

Re: hi19hi19's Delicious Custom Theme Tournament

I think the PM's at the start of a round are very useful. For people participating in multiple tourneys at once, this is a great way to keep up with everything.

As for scoring types:

I think I prefer tournament points. With cumulative you can get absolutely screwed on one round (as kinda happened in D1 on Freefall), making the rest of the tourney useless.

The credits based on individual rounds is a nice addition, but should not be the main scoring type of a tourney, because it removes any suspense over multiple rounds.

I really liked this tournament, best one I've participated in ever. Props!

EzExZeRo7497

05-1-2012 12:34 AM

Re: hi19hi19's Delicious Custom Theme Tournament

Quote:

Originally Posted by noname219 (Post 3685105)

Code:

Credits        User                        Division

195,000        Breakdown16                D4B (Freedom Dive)

191,500        noname219                D3B (Freedom Dive)

183,000        RadiantVibe                D2A (Freedom Dive)

182,000        FrozenAngel91                D3A (Freedom Dive)

178,000        DossarLX ODI                D5A (Freedom Dive)

176,000        EzExZeRo7497                D5B

166,833        Khenra                        D1 (Freedom Dive)

154,000        Tidus810                D5D (Freedom Dive)

150,333        dvaskate                D2B (Freedom Dive)

148,500        sanzath                        D4A (Freedom Dive)

140,500        Plan_Bsk81127                D5C (Freedom Dive)

Sick combo breaker

Zakvvv666

05-1-2012 12:37 AM

Re: hi19hi19's Delicious Custom Theme Tournament

Weird, says 69,500 next to my name but I got exactly 31,500 total.

hi19hi19

05-1-2012 12:41 AM

Re: hi19hi19's Delicious Custom Theme Tournament

I think he was counting the credits from the first Spon Con? Those were not from the pot.

idk... I overshot which is much better than having undershot haha
I'm okay with a few extra thousand out of my own pocket, as long as it isn't the other way around.

Also yeah Eze and alloyus was pretty funny to watch. OWA and Opkiller put up really strong scores too, I actually think D5B was the closest of all the divisions!

Zakvvv666

05-1-2012 12:45 AM

Re: hi19hi19's Delicious Custom Theme Tournament

Yeah I was confused at first but now thinking of the the spon-con it makes sense lol.

who_cares973

05-1-2012 01:06 AM

Re: hi19hi19's Delicious Custom Theme Tournament

cool i got credits \o/

noname219

05-1-2012 01:09 AM

Re: hi19hi19's Delicious Custom Theme Tournament

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zakvvv666 (Post 3685396)

Weird, says 69,500 next to my name but I got exactly 31,500 total.

Don't forget you got 38,000 credits from the Moskau spon con.

Quote:

Originally Posted by hi19hi19 (Post 3685400)

I count every credits you send during the tournament : spon cons (You Suffer, Moskau) + side games + all three scoring types.
Also counted the 35K credits you send to sticklydude so if we remove that, you get 3,734,501 credits total (a difference by 4,501).

sticklydude

05-1-2012 01:26 AM

Re: hi19hi19's Delicious Custom Theme Tournament

Quote:

Originally Posted by hi19hi19 (Post 3685019)

hi19, the most generous man on the planet :D

Even though I finished like 5th, this was probably the best tourney I've played. (:

popsicle_3000

05-1-2012 07:20 AM

Re: hi19hi19's Delicious Custom Theme Tournament

Quote:

Originally Posted by hi19hi19 (Post 3685022)

I actually have enough finished files to hold another custom tournament right now lol

You're a machine!!!

Quote:

Originally Posted by hi19hi19 (Post 3685022)

I'm on the "bad boy list"

LOL
and i think that it'd be better to just do one scoring type in the future. You're right though, it's tough when it's the beginning rounds and you're fighting for a 20 point difference, and then drop 500 on the last song...

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