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LongGone 09-21-2012 01:24 AM

The BMS/IIDX Thread
 
We should have some activity going on in here since a (...handful...) of people play these and partially because KBO forums died..

Placeholder text until a more in-depth guide is written. In the mean time, feel free to ask questions, post scores, videos, help out etc.


What is IIDX?

IIDX is a Konami rhythm game for both arcade and console [PS2] play, utilising 7keys and a turntable. Plastic and custom-made controllers are available if you're playing at home.

What is BMS?
BMS (Be-Music Script) is a file format like .sm files, but in general we refer to it as the simulator game for IIDX 7key (like how sm is to DDR). Some simulators include ruvit/rhythm-it and LunaticRave 2 [LR2], the latter which is often used as it submits scores to an online Internet Ranking [IR] system. Even Stepmania 5 can play BMS files! (Actually, older SM versions could read BMS too...)

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To play IIDX at home, ideally you need a PS2 and a 7k controller. You can play with a PS2 controller but its going to be really awkward...

To play BMS, you can use any BMS simulator with a keyboard, or a 7k controller connected to the PC using a PS2>USB converter.
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Downloads
Lunatic Rave 2
ruv-it!

Guides
Temporary old guide I have for setting up Lunatic Rave 2 http://pastebin.com/c5TZL4P7


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-Guidde to setting up simulators goes here in the near future, cya soon!-
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FAQs

Will this guide ever be finished?
-Hopefully...
Roar176
-Roar176


Updates:
26 Sept 12: Added some links to BMS simulators
23 Oct 12: Added temporary old guide to setting up Lunatic Rave 2

LongGone 09-21-2012 01:24 AM

Re: The BMS/IIDX Thread
 
-Reserved-

bmah 09-21-2012 01:27 AM

Re: The BMS/IIDX Thread
 
I guess for starters, as of now, IIDX 20 Tricoro was just released in the arcades two days ago.

You can view a good amount of new songs from this youtube user: http://www.youtube.com/user/gett1032

I can't wait to hear clearer tracks of the songs.


Quote:

Even Stepmania 5 can play BMS files!
wait what

I didn't know this!

Patashu 09-21-2012 03:41 AM

Re: The BMS/IIDX Thread
 
Vaguely related, I'm thinking about writing a program to convert .ftm (Famitracker's file format) into bms (so you can make a keysounded chart out of it). If I need beta testers or if I finish I will post again :D

PseudoFlare 09-21-2012 09:44 AM

Re: The BMS/IIDX Thread
 
Hey Longgone. Doorknob here. Shame KBO died when interest in BMS has been picking up again.

In a related news, BOF2012 will be open in a few weeks. Details on the page here: http://manbow.nothing.sh/event/event.cgi

kommisar 09-21-2012 10:33 AM

Re: The BMS/IIDX Thread
 
it's no secret that every bms file in existence is offsync as fuc, but I managed to play it anyways


Yume_Kuro 09-21-2012 09:22 PM

Re: The BMS/IIDX Thread
 

★1 : Mirage Garden AAA
​been playing for about a month now​ ;O;

ca25nada 09-21-2012 09:34 PM

Re: The BMS/IIDX Thread
 
(imba)

Senri Akane 09-21-2012 09:39 PM

Re: The BMS/IIDX Thread
 
My contribution:


PseudoFlare 09-22-2012 01:11 AM

Re: The BMS/IIDX Thread
 
Pulled this off today.


ca25nada 09-22-2012 06:08 PM

Re: The BMS/IIDX Thread
 
Some recent vids:

★8 銀の風 [7keyANOTHER+]


▼8 水晶世界 ~Fracture~



List of clears from this week:
★1 Dream Rocket* [for Rea'ju] Hard Clear + AAA
★3 死腐乃美「彼岸花」第二~空虚偽心~赤紅 [Lycoris] Easy Clear
★4 Aihana(Radio Edit) [SADISTIC] Easy Clear
★4 Durandal -Magical Freezing- (Radio Edit) [PLANET] Normal Clear
★5 Ordeal Easy Clear
★5 織姫 -VEGA- Easy Clear
★8 Endless Dream -Maniac- Easy Clear
★8 彼岸帰航 -idling mix- Easy Clear (AutoSCR) - failed with 74% with scratches orz.
★8 銀の風 [7keyANOTHER+] Easy Clear
★9 Blue-White Crazybits [ANOTHER-] Easy Clear (AutoSCR)

EDIT:
autoscr easy clear ▼11 夜空の★FANTASY [STAR DUST]

PseudoFlare 09-29-2012 12:47 AM

Re: The BMS/IIDX Thread
 
Crazy. With those clears, 3rd dan seems possible.

BOF2012 is opening in few days, and here are few video previews for songs entering the contest.

Xhroria


lieselotte


テキトウInfinite love


And in other news:
▼13 飛燕草[UV] Hard Clear (1:50)

Tyson ultima 09-29-2012 03:05 AM

Re: The BMS/IIDX Thread
 
I haven't played in forever but i guess its time to unretire the controller isn't it. Also sung mermaid van DJ command remix

PROGUY 09-30-2012 02:29 AM

Re: The BMS/IIDX Thread
 
That ruv-it! looks pretty. After getting the hang of it, I might make a tutorial on how to use it though if anyone's interested.

On the other hand, here's me playing LR2 about half a year ago lol


Quote:

Originally Posted by LongGone (Post 3774303)
Even Stepmania 5 can play BMS files! (Actually, older SM versions could read BMS too...)

I knew about this for a long time but I always wonder how does it work by linking them since BMS variables and lanes =/= SM.

Tyson ultima 09-30-2012 11:22 AM

Re: The BMS/IIDX Thread
 
I could always give some kind of controller tutorial. Too bad no one gives tutorials on getting a bit better lol

Breakdown16 10-2-2012 09:25 PM

Re: The BMS/IIDX Thread
 
+1 to this thread.

Also, does anyone here play doubles (14 keys) with IIDX controllers? It feels like my skill has stagnated for several months, and I'd love some advice.

NeoMasterPie 10-2-2012 09:44 PM

Re: The BMS/IIDX Thread
 
my logitech illuminated just ghosts too hard, I have no ps/2 port and no other KB to dual wield with.

am i fuced

bmah 10-3-2012 12:49 AM

Re: The BMS/IIDX Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Breakdown16 (Post 3781812)
+1 to this thread.

Also, does anyone here play doubles (14 keys) with IIDX controllers? It feels like my skill has stagnated for several months, and I'd love some advice.

Well I have two KOC controllers and tried 14k once, but I didn't really have a good foundation to keep the two controllers together. I just stuck with 7k afterwards. I suppose then that the first thing to do is to have a good setup before you play doubles.

Breakdown16 10-3-2012 08:40 PM

Re: The BMS/IIDX Thread
 
The kind of advice I'm looking for is how to build hand speed. I've seen plenty of videos where the player is required to perform short sections of stream or jumpstream on both hands simultaneously - I have trouble doing that even in 7 keys (playing one-handed).

I know the obvious answer is "practice more" - but for all the hours I've put into BMS, I feel like my improvement is woefully small. Maybe there's something I'm doing wrong? I dunno.

bmah 10-3-2012 08:59 PM

Re: The BMS/IIDX Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Breakdown16 (Post 3782293)
The kind of advice I'm looking for is how to build hand speed. I've seen plenty of videos where the player is required to perform short sections of stream or jumpstream on both hands simultaneously - I have trouble doing that even in 7 keys (playing one-handed).

Chordstream stuff? Yeah, that takes a lot of practice, and if you have a practice mode, I strongly recommend using that and practicing songs with those problematic areas, starting at a slower music rate. Then as you improve, increase the music rate until you play at normal speed.

If your problems with those patterns is executing them as opposed to a reading problem, then I don't have many suggestions for you. One thing I will suggest though is to be flexible - do not assign each of the 7 keys to a particular finger. Overlap, use other fingers (e.g. I can use my thumb for both the 1 and 3 keys), do whatever you need to do to reach those keys. Another thing to be aware of when doing chordstream is to be aware of how far apart the keys are on your controller. They tend to be spaced out further than it is convenient to hit. Overall, my suggestion has less to do with physically making your hands go faster, but rather know strategically where to place your fingers with those patterns.


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