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roundbox 07-13-2019 01:05 AM

Re: TWG 187: Senpai [Game Thread]
 
people with cases on gs, what are your charges?

the sun fan 07-13-2019 01:06 AM

Re: TWG 187: Senpai [Game Thread]
 
its very, very hard for me to do anything other than read haku as never wolf now

the sun fan 07-13-2019 01:06 AM

Re: TWG 187: Senpai [Game Thread]
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by roundbox (Post 4687021)
people with cases on gs, what are your charges?

a billion other people feel townie

Hakulyte 07-13-2019 01:07 AM

Re: TWG 187: Senpai [Game Thread]
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by the sun fan (Post 4687022)
its very, very hard for me to do anything other than read haku as never wolf now

tbh I was annoyed at this too, but I can't do much about it anymore.

Shadow_God_10 07-13-2019 01:08 AM

Re: TWG 187: Senpai [Game Thread]
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by roundbox (Post 4687021)
people with cases on gs, what are your charges?

I have him as town, I don't really see anything different about him from the previous game that I spectated.

Soundwave- 07-13-2019 01:08 AM

Re: TWG 187: Senpai [Game Thread]
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by the sun fan (Post 4687001)
what's ur role
like what were you trying to do with gs earlier this phase?

not gonna claim, but senkos fox fire was one-shot watcher

roundbox 07-13-2019 01:09 AM

Re: TWG 187: Senpai [Game Thread]
 
Were wolves going for the ??? strat by killing dafty?
Aside from another killing power, I don't see this happening without wolves trying to be ridiculous

Granted he was 2nd on wagon, I wonder if a town kp shot them
This would make major sense and a block/defend could explain one death
If anyone claims a shot on Dafty, it'll be huge

Soundwave- 07-13-2019 01:09 AM

Re: TWG 187: Senpai [Game Thread]
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by roundbox (Post 4687021)
people with cases on gs, what are your charges?

daikyi was likely the nk, but that doesn't necessarily implicate gs as a wolf.

the sun fan 07-13-2019 01:09 AM

Re: TWG 187: Senpai [Game Thread]
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Soundwave- (Post 4687026)
not gonna claim, but senkos fox fire was one-shot watcher

acceptable

the sun fan 07-13-2019 01:11 AM

Re: TWG 187: Senpai [Game Thread]
 
town kp shouldn't claim today
tomorrow is fine since daikyi will have a save the following night and because we know the wolf roleblocker is dead (it was Cocoa)

Hakulyte 07-13-2019 01:11 AM

Re: TWG 187: Senpai [Game Thread]
 
Sunfan/YoshL/Soundwave/Roundbox/Svaz/WV/Storn town.
Funnier6/Xelnya slightly town
Gradiant/Not Devonin almost there
Shadow/FFA remaining wolves

Do I win lottery ?
1-2 off maybe ? meh.

roundbox 07-13-2019 01:11 AM

Re: TWG 187: Senpai [Game Thread]
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Svaz (Post 4686804)
It’s not explicitly said ITA is going to yield death here, just wanted to say.

Anyway, I suppose Funny did put herself as a 3p without stating any intent to work with town; was it not her that cooperated with wolves as Bottle Kids or something in TPB game?

That said, I’m fine with resolving Dafty.Pixel first if its a confirmed parity value over one that isn’t

Fair point to consider, yes yes
She's dead but I like this thought from Svaz as a last post from last phase
Unfortunately it's not giving Svaz town cred fmpov

the sun fan 07-13-2019 01:14 AM

Re: TWG 187: Senpai [Game Thread]
 
wait
if wolves knew other wolves

we can look at the cocoa wagon too

the sun fan 07-13-2019 01:15 AM

Re: TWG 187: Senpai [Game Thread]
 
ugh is svaz busing as the lost wolf
that's so gross
so, so, so, so, so gross if that's what's happening

Hakulyte 07-13-2019 01:17 AM

Re: TWG 187: Senpai [Game Thread]
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Xiz (Post 4682848)
Day 1 Final Vote Count:
======================


FFA: (1)Daikyi
Dragonmega: (6) Svaz, thesunfan, Antori, Soundwave, Funnygurl, Roundbox
Shadow: (2) XelNya, Dabackpack
Goldstinger: (1) Flashflash
Xiz: (1) Wayward
Soundwave: (3) Hakulyte, Goldstinger, Hateandhate
Funnygurl: (4) Storn, Funnier6, Melloncollie, Gradiant


Unvote: Shadowgod

No Vote:
Mtambo, Dragon, Dafty.Pixel,




If there are any errors please let me know

Shadow/FFA, I'm starting to see a pattern duh.

Hakulyte 07-13-2019 01:18 AM

Re: TWG 187: Senpai [Game Thread]
 
I'm okay with moving XelNya/Devonin to town.

-shrugs-

the sun fan 07-13-2019 01:18 AM

Re: TWG 187: Senpai [Game Thread]
 
soundwave and roundbox looking good from that first lynch then

I hope svaz is also town but the alternative is that I have to accept that she's not a busing fiend when in reality

she's a busing fiend

Hakulyte 07-13-2019 01:26 AM

Re: TWG 187: Senpai [Game Thread]
 
What if we asked the remaining few players to hard claim without their character. :thinking:

Hakulyte 07-13-2019 01:27 AM

Re: TWG 187: Senpai [Game Thread]
 
Svaz by example.

Hakulyte 07-13-2019 01:28 AM

Re: TWG 187: Senpai [Game Thread]
 
I guess the problem remains that we can't confirm anything.

Hakulyte 07-13-2019 01:34 AM

Re: TWG 187: Senpai [Game Thread]
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Xiz (Post 4682848)
Day 1 Final Vote Count:
======================


FFA: (1)Daikyi
Dragonmega: (6) Svaz, thesunfan, Antori, Soundwave, Funnygurl, Roundbox
Shadow: (2) XelNya, Dabackpack
Goldstinger: (1) Flashflash
Xiz: (1) Wayward
Soundwave: (3) Hakulyte, Goldstinger, Hateandhate
Funnygurl: (4) Storn, Funnier6, Melloncollie, Gradiant


Unvote: Shadowgod

No Vote:
Mtambo, Dragon, Dafty.Pixel,




If there are any errors please let me know

Look at the no voters knowing their flips.

whoa

Hakulyte 07-13-2019 01:38 AM

Re: TWG 187: Senpai [Game Thread]
 
Does town have a vigi or wolves NK'd Dafty not knowing it was a lost wolf ?

the sun fan 07-13-2019 01:41 AM

Re: TWG 187: Senpai [Game Thread]
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hakulyte (Post 4687042)
Does town have a vigi or wolves NK'd Dafty not knowing it was a lost wolf ?

all wolves know all other wolves

extremely unlikely dafty was a wolf nightkill without some kind of redirect

Hakulyte 07-13-2019 01:44 AM

Re: TWG 187: Senpai [Game Thread]
 
My bad, I thought he means that "Every -lost wolf- knew the other wolves" because we didn't have a regular wolf flip yet.

If every wolf knows, it's not really -lost wolves- anymore.

??

the sun fan 07-13-2019 01:45 AM

Re: TWG 187: Senpai [Game Thread]
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hakulyte (Post 4687044)
My bad, I thought he means that "Every -lost wolf- knew the other wolves" because we didn't have a regular wolf flip yet.

If every wolf knows, it's not really -lost wolves- anymore.

??

yeah, Xiz is just a lying PoS most likely

Soundwave- 07-13-2019 01:46 AM

Re: TWG 187: Senpai [Game Thread]
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hakulyte (Post 4687038)
What if we asked the remaining few players to hard claim without their character. :thinking:

Pretty sure there's at least one unclaimed protective, this is probably a bad idea unless it solves

and I still think there's no namekiller

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hakulyte (Post 4687040)
I guess the problem remains that we can't confirm anything.

which it doesn't because this

Hakulyte 07-13-2019 01:48 AM

Re: TWG 187: Senpai [Game Thread]
 
Maybe the namekiller is not good with anime.

That could clear Shadow.

Better lynch FFA.

#ifonlyitwasthatsimple

Soundwave- 07-13-2019 01:48 AM

Re: TWG 187: Senpai [Game Thread]
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hakulyte (Post 4687047)
Maybe the namekiller is not good with anime

I think Xel would be dead regardless.

Hakulyte 07-13-2019 01:49 AM

Re: TWG 187: Senpai [Game Thread]
 
Does town FFA usually not vote during games ?

That's throwing me off.

Hakulyte 07-13-2019 01:51 AM

Re: TWG 187: Senpai [Game Thread]
 
Change of plans.

FFA

Please investigate someone or something.

Gotta sleep now.

Hakulyte 07-13-2019 01:52 AM

Re: TWG 187: Senpai [Game Thread]
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Soundwave- (Post 4687048)
I think Xel would be dead regardless.

Unless the namekiller can't kill himself ?

#dundundun

Hakulyte 07-13-2019 01:53 AM

Re: TWG 187: Senpai [Game Thread]
 
Roundbox mentioned nihilposting early game and it's making me group him with XelNya.

Terrible thoughts.

flashflash account 07-13-2019 02:06 AM

Re: TWG 187: Senpai [Game Thread]
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hakulyte (Post 4687049)
Does town FFA usually not vote during games ?

That's throwing me off.

I'm not usually in upstate New York trapped between two dead zones and I also usually post more than I have this game to begin with

I have a bucket full of excuses let me know if you need me to dump more out

flashflash account 07-13-2019 02:13 AM

Re: TWG 187: Senpai [Game Thread]
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by roundbox (Post 4687021)
people with cases on gs, what are your charges?

His positioning when pushing the antori lynch didn't feel towny, he was trying to justify it as a wolf lynch when I think a townie would instead be okay with just lynching the third party, felt like burden of guilt on lynching a non-wolf

He also isn't as analytical as he was in the jtwg and to a lesser extent the an game

flashflash account 07-13-2019 02:17 AM

Re: TWG 187: Senpai [Game Thread]
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by the sun fan (Post 4686964)
kinda just think haku is scum tbh

You aren't town

Shadow_God_10 07-13-2019 02:17 AM

Re: TWG 187: Senpai [Game Thread]
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hakulyte (Post 4687047)
Maybe the namekiller is not good with anime.

That could clear Shadow.

Better lynch FFA.

#ifonlyitwasthatsimple

I have two questions here:

1. How does my knowledge of anime make me a namekiller?
2. What does namekilling even do? Can I get an example of how it works?

flashflash account 07-13-2019 02:18 AM

Re: TWG 187: Senpai [Game Thread]
 
Wayward isn't sunfans rival, wayward just has the item sunfan needs or something, if he was then sunfan would have shot wayward

Sunfan wants me dead for some reason or another and doing so progresses his wincon, it's pretty apparent

the sun fan 07-13-2019 02:21 AM

Re: TWG 187: Senpai [Game Thread]
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by flashflash account (Post 4687057)
Wayward isn't sunfans rival, wayward just has the item sunfan needs or something, if he was then sunfan would have shot wayward

Sunfan wants me dead for some reason or another and doing so progresses his wincon, it's pretty apparent

I can't shoot until I get to level 3, as confirmed by Daikyi (and even then I need my item)

and unless you think I predicted the dafty nightkill last night, then I didn't advance to level 3

the sun fan 07-13-2019 02:22 AM

Re: TWG 187: Senpai [Game Thread]
 
oh duh
wayward killed dafty with my item
what the fuck have I been smoking

Shadow_God_10 07-13-2019 02:35 AM

Re: TWG 187: Senpai [Game Thread]
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by the sun fan (Post 4687059)
oh duh
wayward killed dafty with my item
what the fuck have I been smoking

Does this mean your item was one use only and it disappears forever?

the sun fan 07-13-2019 02:40 AM

Re: TWG 187: Senpai [Game Thread]
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Shadow_God_10 (Post 4687060)
Does this mean your item was one use only and it disappears forever?

if this was the case, I'd be out of the game, I think

roundbox 07-13-2019 03:11 AM

Re: TWG 187: Senpai [Game Thread]
 
WV hard town or really really evil wolf who shoots his lost wolves

roundbox 07-13-2019 03:11 AM

Re: TWG 187: Senpai [Game Thread]
 
EOD will be hard for me just letting people know

roundbox 07-13-2019 03:17 AM

Re: TWG 187: Senpai [Game Thread]
 
I'm inclined to believe Dai is lock town due to how his power works

Svaz 07-13-2019 03:18 AM

Re: TWG 187: Senpai [Game Thread]
 
Alright you know, given my TWG history I can’t even disagree with the theory against me being a bussing fiend here, and FFA’s earlier case against me is contextualized even better in that world.

We just happen not to live in that world.

None of my abilities are really useful, (and I’ve been able to confirm the lesser one of them twice now!) but I do want to at least see if I can get the [REDACTED] information at the end of Dafty’s PM out there to someone. The next day phase is fine if it helps assuage suspicions on me in that theory, but in order to use my (already mentioned) power I gotta be able to submit the action to distribute that PM tonight, presumably alive.

And failing that, maybe examine the voting pool on me today. I know what I flip as, and for once it’s not red, and given wolves no longer have “Lost” to fall on as a defense that’s no longer a question.

There’s plenty of cause not to believe me here; I appreciate that. I suppose all I’m really asking for is a chance to use this other power and see if anything good comes from it.

the sun fan 07-13-2019 03:21 AM

Re: TWG 187: Senpai [Game Thread]
 
good enough for me, Svaz

roundbox 07-13-2019 03:36 AM

Re: TWG 187: Senpai [Game Thread]
 
Xel looks like a decent case to explore today
At least from my side

Ffa's vote on Soundwave last phase looks incredibly sketchy too
I want to ISO funnier6 as well

roundbox 07-13-2019 03:36 AM

Re: TWG 187: Senpai [Game Thread]
 
2 wolves plus 2 lost wolves?

the sun fan 07-13-2019 03:37 AM

Re: TWG 187: Senpai [Game Thread]
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by roundbox (Post 4687068)
2 wolves plus 2 lost wolves?

its a xiz game dude
there's 6 lost wolves total, 4 alive
plus like 2/3 more 3p

the sun fan 07-13-2019 04:54 AM

Re: TWG 187: Senpai [Game Thread]
 
honestly I thought Xiz trolled me hard but if he lied to the wolves about being able to rejoin wolfchat
then I really just feel for the wolves because that's unfunny and uncool

the sun fan 07-13-2019 05:09 AM

Re: TWG 187: Senpai [Game Thread]
 
- Any and all non-town teams have access to daychat. This will be done ONLY on discord.

from the OP

I just
have to believe there's a wolfchat

there just has to be one

Daikyi 07-13-2019 06:41 AM

Re: TWG 187: Senpai [Game Thread]
 
i think the clarification of all wolves knew all wolves is shit, and xiz was probably high because ive literally never heard of a game where main wolfteam knew who the lost wolves were.

Daikyi 07-13-2019 06:48 AM

Re: TWG 187: Senpai [Game Thread]
 
i havent thought sunfan was a wolf in a phase and a half, but still have no clue why ffa is still on that route.

i actually missed the lost wolf part of daftys flip, and im going to assume that wolves still did not know who the lost wolves were because thats hella stupid lol.

also shame on fuccen you sunfan for townreading from itas assuming that lost wolves were known. in your fe game, i as a wolf, literally used that as ammo to get town cred LOL. the 15% is so worth it when you know one of your team is going to die anyways, so you get cred when they flip, and if you kill them you get huge cred. like i think exactly 0 people were against dafty kill otherwise

XelNya 07-13-2019 06:55 AM

Re: TWG 187: Senpai [Game Thread]
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by roundbox (Post 4687067)
Xel looks like a decent case to explore today
At least from my side

I think you're being a bit silly.

storn42 07-13-2019 07:14 AM

Re: TWG 187: Senpai [Game Thread]
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by the sun fan (Post 4687071)
- Any and all non-town teams have access to daychat. This will be done ONLY on discord.

actually that got me thinking, would a rule like this signify the lack of masons in the game? after all, they are a town team, but i guess maybe they just wouldn't have their own chat.

Soundwave- 07-13-2019 07:19 AM

Re: TWG 187: Senpai [Game Thread]
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by storn42 (Post 4687075)
actually that got me thinking, would a rule like this signify the lack of masons in the game? after all, they are a town team, but i guess maybe they just wouldn't have their own chat.

No, although I'd be willing there's no masons just because flavor.

And also maybe just to spite me making a comment about it pre-game.

Shadow_God_10 07-13-2019 07:35 AM

Re: TWG 187: Senpai [Game Thread]
 
Just a random thought here: is it possible to have two doctors or life savers in one game?

storn42 07-13-2019 07:47 AM

Re: TWG 187: Senpai [Game Thread]
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Shadow_God_10 (Post 4687077)
Just a random thought here: is it possible to have two doctors or life savers in one game?

anything is possible. but i think two doctors isnt't that far out of the question. its also possible to have two different doctor like roles in the game, like a doc and a jailer.

Shadow_God_10 07-13-2019 07:51 AM

Re: TWG 187: Senpai [Game Thread]
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by storn42 (Post 4687078)
anything is possible. but i think two doctors isnt't that far out of the question. its also possible to have two different doctor like roles in the game, like a doc and a jailer.

Okay. So if we assume that WV shot Dafty with sunfans weapon... we now have two life savers in this game because both could have been saved by one person each. One from a wolf kill and one from Antori's item. This would explain why we only have one dead body as opposed to two or three.

Soundwave- 07-13-2019 07:52 AM

Re: TWG 187: Senpai [Game Thread]
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Shadow_God_10 (Post 4687079)
Okay. So if we assume that WV shot Dafty with sunfans weapon... we now have two life savers in this game because both could have been saved by one person each. One from a wolf kill and one from Antori's item. This would explain why we only have one dead body as opposed to two or three.

I feel like I already said this.

storn42 07-13-2019 07:52 AM

Re: TWG 187: Senpai [Game Thread]
 
as of right now, i'm thinking todays lynch should probably be in one of these people:
flashflashaccount
Shadow_God_10
Xelnya
Soundwave
Hakulyte

no hard reads on any of them and i want to take a closer look at each of them before EoD, but these are the people i'm the least confidant are town.

Shadow_God_10 07-13-2019 07:53 AM

Re: TWG 187: Senpai [Game Thread]
 
I know the odds of this would be absolutely ludicrous but it's still a possibility we cannot ignore.

storn42 07-13-2019 07:59 AM

Re: TWG 187: Senpai [Game Thread]
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Shadow_God_10 (Post 4687079)
Okay. So if we assume that WV shot Dafty with sunfans weapon... we now have two life savers in this game because both could have been saved by one person each. One from a wolf kill and one from Antori's item. This would explain why we only have one dead body as opposed to two or three.

i dont think antori's gun killed anyone. again its a SUICIDE gun. you dont shoot other people with those. I also dont think its far out of the question to think dafty dying stopped the wolf kill somehow. There is also the amount of bulletproof vests in the game. someone might have a 1-shot that was the wolves target. its hard to know. Someone also may have taken the initiative and blocked a wolf stopping the kill. sucks if they blocked dafty though :/

Shadow_God_10 07-13-2019 08:04 AM

Re: TWG 187: Senpai [Game Thread]
 
I don't think Antori has a suicide gun per se. It COULD offer maybe a 20% chance of death but you could get some interesting info on someone else. This is one of Zaphkiel's abilities and it DOES require the user to shoot themselves. I wouldn't put it past the host to do something like this.

Shadow_God_10 07-13-2019 08:09 AM

Re: TWG 187: Senpai [Game Thread]
 
More or less a risk/reward kinda thing

Shadow_God_10 07-13-2019 08:13 AM

Re: TWG 187: Senpai [Game Thread]
 
Basically how this would work is you tell the host you wish to use the gun: you shoot yourself and you don't die and the host would give information on a random player in the game.

80/20 odds of living to help town sounds good to me.

Soundwave- 07-13-2019 08:16 AM

Re: TWG 187: Senpai [Game Thread]
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Shadow_God_10 (Post 4687082)
I know the odds of this would be absolutely ludicrous but it's still a possibility we cannot ignore.

The odds aren't ludicrous. It's actually the most likely scenario fmpov that there's at least 2 protectives.

Shadow_God_10 07-13-2019 08:17 AM

Re: TWG 187: Senpai [Game Thread]
 
Or it could be 50/50.

Shadow_God_10 07-13-2019 08:24 AM

Re: TWG 187: Senpai [Game Thread]
 
Ignore that 20% thing. It's more than likely a 50/50 shot. But it could be worth the gamble if you feel lucky!

Soundwave- 07-13-2019 08:26 AM

Re: TWG 187: Senpai [Game Thread]
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by storn42 (Post 4687083)
i dont think antori's gun killed anyone. again its a SUICIDE gun.

yeah let me just go to the gun shop and buy a suicide gun.

I definitely couldn't shoot someone else with it.

storn42 07-13-2019 08:31 AM

Re: TWG 187: Senpai [Game Thread]
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Soundwave- (Post 4687090)
yeah let me just go to the gun shop and buy a suicide gun.

I definitely couldn't shoot someone else with it.

the rules of TWG aren't affected by real world logic. by that logic the cop should be arresting everyone for lynching people. and unless i missed something, i dont think xel even claimed to have used the gun.

Soundwave- 07-13-2019 08:35 AM

Re: TWG 187: Senpai [Game Thread]
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by storn42 (Post 4687091)
the rules of TWG aren't affected by real world logic.

you're right

they're affected by xiz logic

which is even less predictable.

Hakulyte 07-13-2019 08:56 AM

Re: TWG 187: Senpai [Game Thread]
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Shadow_God_10 (Post 4687056)
I have two questions here:

1. How does my knowledge of anime make me a namekiller?
2. What does namekilling even do? Can I get an example of how it works?

1. I'm just assuming it could be the case.
2. Namekilling would be like a night action that you sent to Xiz. It would be like: "Svaz is Violet Evergarden" then Xiz check if it's true and if that's the case; she dies and wolves -still- have their night kill.

Also, having 2 wolf teams in this game feels kinda sketchy because of the lack of night kills.

I feel like my lost wolf theory makes more sense.

Hakulyte 07-13-2019 08:59 AM

Re: TWG 187: Senpai [Game Thread]
 
I cannot picture wolves night killing Dafty.Pixel either.

It's either WV, an item or Funnygurl555 pulling a Monokuma after she won the game.

Speaking of items, I kind of want to bully to push players who has the ability to steal or destroy items.

Xel & Shadow seems to be there.

Kind of curious what happened in Xel's night phases.

Hakulyte 07-13-2019 09:02 AM

Re: TWG 187: Senpai [Game Thread]
 
I can't even find a post where WV could have a killing power, but I read others talk about it like huh.

Hakulyte 07-13-2019 09:05 AM

Re: TWG 187: Senpai [Game Thread]
 
I'm back to the theory where Sunfan did receive an item, but is lying about receiving it.

I feel like I have too many towns if that's not true.

Hakulyte 07-13-2019 09:05 AM

Re: TWG 187: Senpai [Game Thread]
 
Assuming his third party claim is true, but not necessarily town aligned.

Hakulyte 07-13-2019 09:08 AM

Re: TWG 187: Senpai [Game Thread]
 
The way I see it is that Sunfan would provide cover to WV as a W/W team and constantly clear each others out.

It's risky, but it's paying off atm.

Hakulyte 07-13-2019 09:10 AM

Re: TWG 187: Senpai [Game Thread]
 
I sent an item to Sunfan to see what he would do about it and I'm not happy with the results pmuch.

Soundwave- 07-13-2019 09:10 AM

Re: TWG 187: Senpai [Game Thread]
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hakulyte (Post 4687097)
I'm back to the theory where Sunfan did receive an item, but is lying about receiving it.

I feel like I have too many towns if that's not true.

I don't think this is particularly indicative even if true.


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