Re: TWG 187: Senpai [Game Thread]
 

Debating if we should ask Raeko what she won from jeopardy in order to track actions to figure out alignment.

Re: TWG 187: Senpai [Game Thread]
 

I think this game is like the Trailer Park Boys game and can be broken from mass claiming what roles do as long as names are kept private.

Re: TWG 187: Senpai [Game Thread]
 

That would be my shortcut to mass solve players here.

Re: TWG 187: Senpai [Game Thread]
 

Basically, we could analyze the validity of the claims and transform this game into a mechanical talk over throwing mud at people in hope they react a certain way.

Re: TWG 187: Senpai [Game Thread]
 

If you mean what she won from picking a number the flips went from "Alignment Only" to "Full Card Flips"

Re: TWG 187: Senpai [Game Thread]
 

I have so many thoughts in my head right now and I cannot seem to put them into words right now. There's some info to go off of and this makes me really really happy. I'm off for three whole days. I'm gonna take this weekend to do some more searching on metas of some of the players I've never played with before and try to attempt a much better read list

Like I mentioned earlier I MIGHT be around to EoD. I'll try to be at least.

Re: TWG 187: Senpai [Game Thread]
 

I've been staring at my fucking keyboard for literally 40 minutes trying to put thoughts into words and I just cannot and it's extremely frustrating for me right now.

It's like I HAVE information but I can't put how I feel about certain people into words and it's driving me insane

Re: TWG 187: Senpai [Game Thread]
 

Random Thoughts Except This Time I’m Caught Up.

Haiku feels like attempting to solve the game. I’ve been told to expect chaos but it all feels like good chaos so I’ma go with that. I never really understood scum who draw so much attention to themselves.

Idek what ffa is doing, it’s like we’re all playing poker and he’s playing go fish.

Shadow is flailing about but I’m gonna stick to the original read.

I’d be voting fg right now but I’ve never voted fg before and I’d literally feel bad about myself as a person. Will need to see a vote count.

Re: TWG 187: Senpai [Game Thread]
 

My current dilemma is this: I have a gut read on two specific people that seem off to me and I cannot describe why. It's like they started off okay and then alarm bells just went WHEE OUU WHEE OUU WHEE OUU. I need to reread the last 20 pages very carefully and try to build a solid case on one of them because one of them might end up getting my vote.


Ugh. I've got a lot of work ahead of myself

Re: TWG 187: Senpai [Game Thread]
 

Just chill dude, you’re not gonna spontaneously burst into flames if you’re having trouble. Don’t stress about it.

Re: TWG 187: Senpai [Game Thread]
 

I'm sleep. I'm definitely not gonna be in EoD unfortunately. I'll read everything when I get home again. This is the last post for me this phase!

Re: TWG 187: Senpai [Game Thread]
 

Shadow you're typing words on a forum game, you can definitely explain your thought process and where you are. You keep posting about how you're trying to solve the game without making it known and it comes off as disingenuous and fake.

What are your gut reads on those people? What posts made alarms go off? Post literally anything other than "I can't word guiyz D:"

Re: TWG 187: Senpai [Game Thread]
 

Also I like the interaction between haku and sw

Re: TWG 187: Senpai [Game Thread]
 

Probably the push I needed.

FFA has seemed off to me based on how he's played the entire phase and Funnygirl. She started okay at first but then the alarm bells went off within the last 18 hours of play. If I were to decide between the two I would probably lean towards FFA unless I see something completely different from what I saw in TWG 186 when i spectated that one and had him as wolf from d2 onwards (keep in mind that was my first spectate from start to finish)

Funnygirl just seems all over the place to me and that's raising alarm bells but they're kind of soft bells right now.

Hope that helps. I'm going to sleep now.

Re: TWG 187: Senpai [Game Thread]
 

I'm on my phone and way too tired to pull up posts. Those are the two gut reads I had.

Re: TWG 187: Senpai [Game Thread]
 

The only post that I can see as really weird to me is Funnygirl going for me being "Wolf coached" that seemed really strange to me. It rubbed me the wrong way and I was going to address it in D1. But for now I think I'm going to say ffa

I distinctly remember you saying that you play wolf so good that you forget you're town and for me, personally that's not a very good look.

Re: TWG 187: Senpai [Game Thread]
 

Goodnight guys. I'll probably be dead after this.

Re: TWG 187: Senpai [Game Thread]
 

unvote

one more day is hype since I don't work tonight, meaning I'll be here for EOD :D

Re: TWG 187: Senpai [Game Thread]
 

That being said... I read the thread, and I'm losterinos on reads.

One thing though, I think funnygirl is town, dunno what all you guys are on.

Re: TWG 187: Senpai [Game Thread]
 

as someone who had this problem when i first started playing twg i can relate. Its best to just try and explain what you're feeling even if you dont have the words. Hopefully what you're trying to say will come across and even if you cant perfectly articulate you're feelings perhaps you can point something out which leads to a stronger read with help from town. And maybe you'll be surprisingly accurate for your first few games, and then never have a good read for like 5 months.

Re: TWG 187: Senpai [Game Thread]
 

SG hasn't shown that he's with wolves this time around. And while he was playing a wolf game in his previous game, he was also by himself, so I know exactly what a 'by themselves' wolf game SG would come from. If he had access to daychat, then he would definitely get some assistance from others if Raeko & SG's accounts of their wolfchat in a previous game is true. I don't think it would be this messy with a wolf alignment tbh.

thesunfan really only had a major interaction regarding some frustration towards FG & Gradiant. Most of that has subsided from the looks of it, and it went nowhere. Feels like a true frustration move about how they didn't like the game. It's also interesting that they were, prior to blowing up, wanting to reduce pressure on FFA and unhappy with people for not doing so. Thing that doesn't sit with me is the dragon (Cocoa) read. From the few posts that she's made so far, it really just feels like another quiet, town dragonmega from previous games.

I think WV was stuck on a 'gotcha' moment that me & Sanzath shared in a previous game that got us kitb between 2 town. I believe WV is the slightest of town leans, but no more than FG is a confused town with how her votes are falling into line based on what other people have provided so far.

I need more posts from XelNya, Dafty.Pixel, DBP, Mtambourini, and Svaz. (I want to town lean XelNya for interactions earlier in the game but I haven't seen them since please come back)

Haku is pretty certain town for me. One post that Haku caught me off-guard was the afterthought of them dying and sarcastically pointing out if they die and they're just a vanilla town. I don't think anyone is vanilla town in this scenario, but I think a good majority of us have good abilities with counterweights on them that prevents it from being a PR role and moves it back to town aligned, if anything Haku has said about their role is true.

My Antori read from earlier in the thread has not changed.

Hateandhatred is innocent child.

Noteworthy pointing out that from my point of view, Storn and Gradiant have both been thinking very similarly to me on almost all reactions such as Funnygurl, WV, and even in reads. I don't know what to make of it on whether it's the god wolf pocket or some ridiculously insane mindmelding. My reads on them are reserved for the time being, but it's creeping me out. Just a little bit.

Roundbox has been seemingly town so far, he hasn't really given me anything to argue with against, and that goes a bit for separating my thoughts between lumping RB in with Storn & Gradiant, because they are opposed to the soundwave stuff.

I don't really understand where sunfan is coming from in Town-reading Svaz. There was also another post from someone who's name escapes me saying that mellon's reads makes her lock clear town as well and I'm just taking that information at face value as well.

Daikyi has been contributing to conversations imo but not really leaning stuff one way or the other, y'know, what would feel like meaningful contribution to the conversations for me. Feels like they're playing a very strong neutral game, talking about the points that need to be talked about, that would have been most likely brought up anyways. It wasn't until very recently in the thread that their posts feel like they begun to garnish meaning. Not my lynch for tonight, but I don't know what to think of it either.

Never played games with funnier, but from the posts that I've seen I can tell there's experience in TWG behind them. I can definitely see what they mean when they said that FFA is playing a different game. I am unsure if the both of us are on the same page regarding it, but it felt like FFA was much more critical with posts and back & forth talking than they were in previous games. FFA themselves also mentioned that they would not be able to put as much effort into this game for ??? reason, so it could just be that. Their posts are still somewhat similar to wolves game that they've played, but it's different enough and also not enough to go off of imho to stick to that gut feeling.

If that is truly SG's last post for this phase (even though phase doesn't end for another 12 hours) then I'm obligated to drop on soundwave. I think what I want to do here, is go by the most mechanical information that was offered in this phase, and see where it goes from there. Kind of shitty if Soundwave has been telling the truth this entire time, but that's the shit that happens when a 1 in 21 bullshiterino happens. If Haku is town-aligned, I have no doubt there will be a situation tonight where 1 omega wolf PR that just fucks everything up and Haku will die regardless of what happens, and they are playing this phase as such. If Haku is wolf, ya fucked everything up mate. You not dying by the day phase following after this one, is going to result in literally everyone giving you stink eye.

Re: TWG 187: Senpai [Game Thread]
 

Feel free to point me towards shit that I probably missed. Probably can't help but miss stuff in a 1000+ post, d0 thread.

Re: TWG 187: Senpai [Game Thread]
 

Forgot to add sunfan to this. I want to say he’s guaranteed third party because why why why would he would not-so-jokingly break my heart as town/not go for the super easy right in front of his face answer that I would’ve accepted without question? Literally the whole point of asking was so that I could conserve brain cells and not have to read you and then you had to go and do that. <\3

Re: TWG 187: Senpai [Game Thread]
 

I don't know, I'm still inclined to read both Haku and Soundwave as genuine town/town here from that interaction; I believe there's some kind of interference. I can only assume that there are roles out there with a lot of powers and complexity to them, though I don't know if anyone amended their original pick for something more powerful after being goaded by Xiz.

Speaking of Xiz, has anyone heard from him since that post-fall post? If the host is in the hospital (get better btw Xiz, sorry to read about that) will the game just pause until he returns; as far as I know, no co-host was established and I feel like submitting night actions will be tricky, at best, without one.

I meant to post more last night, but had a headache after marathoning Stranger Things 3 (It's good btw) and tried reading to catch up and just fell asleep instead.

I realise I'm a more inactive player saying this, but in such a big game, would it still be unreasonable to look to UTR? I guess this is still a policy, but I really hate killing off active players so soon because it leads to a deader, less interesting game later on, or one where different people have to speak up given that the more frequent posters are no longer occupying the space (I guess this is a little different than my LTWG preferences of louder people going so I can talk more w).

Re: TWG 187: Senpai [Game Thread]
 

Realistically, I believe that we will have to try and keep track of votecounts ourselves up until EoD if there is no co-host, and once the day ends, the game is put on pause until a host can perform a role flip.

Re: TWG 187: Senpai [Game Thread]
 

i really dont like going for UTR D0. its how a lot of mislynches happen. maybe day 2 or 3 we can start going after UTR, but not D0

Re: TWG 187: Senpai [Game Thread]
 

Am I allowed to post an unofficial vote count in here given circumstances or is that generally frowned upon

Re: TWG 187: Senpai [Game Thread]
 

this post seriously reminds me so much of flash flash as a wolf play last time. "if you guys lynch me you are just bad and mean people" rather than actually coming up with a defense based on logic or posts within the game.

do you have a real defense for yourself?

Re: TWG 187: Senpai [Game Thread]
 

I don't think that's going to work the same way in a game without OOTC and private conversations, wolves/3Ps will have too much sway over every single claim in this game

Re: TWG 187: Senpai [Game Thread]
 

Read rules quickly and didn't see anything about posting stuff that host posts (specifically vote count)

Re: TWG 187: Senpai [Game Thread]
 

Day 1 (Unofficial because it's made by another player) Vote count:
======================

FFA: Daikyi, Gradiant
Cocoa: Svaz, thesunfan
Soundwave-: Hakulyte, gold stinger
Shadow_god_10: XelNya
Goldstinger: FFA, Funnygurl555
Daikyi: Antori
Dafty.Pixel: Soundwave-
Funnygurl555: storn42

Unvote: Shadow_God_10, Hateandhatred,

Day 1 ends July 5th @9pm Server

If you spot a glaring issue in here, shout it out.

Re: TWG 187: Senpai [Game Thread]
 

I think a four way tie is bad

Re: TWG 187: Senpai [Game Thread]
 

I actually just tried one myself for sanity's sake, so if you do one too we can at least crosscheck each other. I don't think it's frowned on as long as you're not posturing as the OP? Plus we're in a situation with unforeseen circumstances impacting the host.

Re: TWG 187: Senpai [Game Thread]
 

we still have plenty of time before EoD, it'll change.

Re: TWG 187: Senpai [Game Thread]
 

I think we should play the same way we would normally play with regard to UTR players. if someone does something wolfy that is more deserving of being lynched we get them for doing that thing, but UTR can be good targets if there is not a lot else to go on

Re: TWG 187: Senpai [Game Thread]
 

you're generally allowed to do that anyway even regardless of circumstances, so don't worry about it

Re: TWG 187: Senpai [Game Thread]
 

I have to head out today for some rec stuff but I plan to be back about 2 hours before EoD. I just beg that you guys don't go bouncing off the walls before I get back. I really don't need another 50 pages of posts to add to an already complicated d0 lmao.

Re: TWG 187: Senpai [Game Thread]
 

if this happens just follow your heart ~ and pay attention to the things you already know have happened

Re: TWG 187: Senpai [Game Thread]
 

For the sake of newer players, I stuck to display usernames to limit confusion, but included nicknames in the vote history. This may be inaccurate as it is an
UNOFFICIAL
Vote count

flashflash_account - 3 - Daikyi, Gradiant, Shadow_God_10
dragonmegaXX -2 - Svaz, the_sun_fan
gold_stinger - 2 - flashflash_account, Funnygurl555
Shadow_God_10 - 1 - XelNya
storn42 - 1 - Soundwave-
Mtamborini - 1 - gold_stinger
Daikyi - 1 - Antori
Soundwave- -1- Hakulyte
Dafty.Pixel - 1 - Soundwave-
Funnygurl555 - 1 - storn42
Unvote - Hateandhatred

Vote history below, pretty messy as I just copypasted from the notepad .txt file I used to count, sorry for that, also helpful if I fucked this up in any manner.

Re: TWG 187: Senpai [Game Thread]
 

oh damn ninja'd lmao oh well

Re: TWG 187: Senpai [Game Thread]
 

Looks like I missed an unvote from shadowgod anyway, so it works out

Re: TWG 187: Senpai [Game Thread]
 

Also missed my vote onto Soundwave lol

Re: TWG 187: Senpai [Game Thread]
 

But yeah other than those 2 things they are the same.

Re: TWG 187: Senpai [Game Thread]
 

My votes on funnygurl

Re: TWG 187: Senpai [Game Thread]
 

aye yep we both missed that.

Re: TWG 187: Senpai [Game Thread]
 

FFA: Daikyi
Cocoa: Svaz, thesunfan
Soundwave-: Hakulyte, gold stinger
Shadow_god_10: XelNya
Goldstinger: FFA, Funnygurl555
Daikyi: Antori
Dafty.Pixel: Soundwave-
Funnygurl555: storn42, Gradiant

Unvote: Shadow_God_10, Hateandhatred,

Re: TWG 187: Senpai [Game Thread]
 

Can you come back to Earth if you don’t mind?

[twg]funnygurl[/twg]

Not enough votes on her.

Re: TWG 187: Senpai [Game Thread]
 

Oh snap I did it wrong!

[twg]VOTE[\twg]

Re: TWG 187: Senpai [Game Thread]
 

crazy I know

Re: TWG 187: Senpai [Game Thread]
 

the tag is "twgv" like this [twgv] player [/ twgv] without the space there

Re: TWG 187: Senpai [Game Thread]
 

DANG IT

funnygurl

Thought I remembered it >_<

Re: TWG 187: Senpai [Game Thread]
 

soundwave

There it's a 2 ways tie now.

Any more questions for me? I think most of my leans are coming back to the center at this point, except for my strong town leans.

I'll go to bed in a few, will be back for EOD.

Re: TWG 187: Senpai [Game Thread]
 

I guess my question would be, what do you think is the most important reason why you voted for soundwave that we all should know?

Re: TWG 187: Senpai [Game Thread]
 

- I don't think that's what FFA was actually saying last time, except for the fact he was putting his chips on his early game town cred.
- I also don't think this is what funnygirl is actually doing here.
- I also don't think this is what you'd push on if you were genuinely trying to pin a wolf, therefore you're a wolf lean at the moment.

Re: TWG 187: Senpai [Game Thread]
 

really....?

it's an appeal to emotion and I'm never a fan of those. If you don't think I'd normally do this, look back at how I reacted to ffa's similar posts

Re: TWG 187: Senpai [Game Thread]
 

I really wanted to tie the votes to see if it'd influence wolves, but that's probably not gonna do jack so I'll unvote at EOD. I kinda wanted to go with dragon, but gs and haku are better townies at the moment. I personally don't think soundwave is a good d0 lynch target, but I could make a small argument against him, but anyone could against litterally anyone at this point.

Re: TWG 187: Senpai [Game Thread]
 

If we're talking about the same posts, you were dead when it happened (it was in f5 with me and charu as non cc'd PRs). Unless you mean deadchat if that even counts.

Re: TWG 187: Senpai [Game Thread]
 

I think we are talking about different posts then, yeah. hold on I'll see if I can get you any examples

Re: TWG 187: Senpai [Game Thread]
 

Besides I don't see it much as an appeal to emotion in either case. FFA had a few posts along the lines of "you should trust me" which were absolute garbage lol, but I can't see funny doing anything like that in the past few posts. Maybe it's just my interpretation though, I'm going to give your thoughts some weight at least

Re: TWG 187: Senpai [Game Thread]
 

Also sorry, I meant F4 lol!

Re: TWG 187: Senpai [Game Thread]
 

Also in that game, I recall me telling you to reread the thread with FFA posting as a wolf and said it was a pretty strong possibility that he was wolf, and you were like "nah he's stronk town" but then you said you were gonna do what I told you anyway, but never heard back from it.

So if there's anything I recall out of that game with you and FFA, it's that your funny argument, at least, isn't something I'm gonna relate with in terms of how you play the game (if that makes any sense)

Re: TWG 187: Senpai [Game Thread]
 

Alright I looked back at the game and turns out yeah, I thought those things a lot more than I actually posted them apparently. lol so much for that but, I did still really feel similarly either way even if I didn't actually say so in the AN game.

but the part that super specifically reminded me of it was this:
putting the responsibility on other people to "solve them" rather than put their own effort into the game, and acting like we are in the wrong for making a lynch rather than them being in the wrong for not defending themselves properly. with some appeal to emotion thrown in for good measure

anyway, just how I see it, I could be totally wrong

Re: TWG 187: Senpai [Game Thread]
 

the thing I was town reading him for was because he was tunneling me nonstop and I really thought another wolf would have told him to stop, it wasn't really based on anything strong. I did reconsider him after you asked me to and came up with different conclusions

Re: TWG 187: Senpai [Game Thread]
 

I'm gonna give you some credit and say it's a possibility she's doing that, but honestly I'm interpreting it differently. And keep in mind, I'm a fucking innocent child lol, me trying to help out a wolf partner isn't a possibility (saying it in case someone pops an aneurysm and forgets about it).

Re: TWG 187: Senpai [Game Thread]
 

I know that rofl, I would never accuse you of defending anybody! I do want your thoughts about it though, if your thoughts are a defense then I'm gonna take that into consideration

Re: TWG 187: Senpai [Game Thread]
 

I'm just gonna have to believe you Raeko, but honestly I can't read your mind if you haven't posted your thoughts back then, but on the other hand I certainly can't blame you for stuff you haven't said, unless you really should have, but there's no way you could have foreseen this happening in a future game lol, that'd be ridiculous

Re: TWG 187: Senpai [Game Thread]
 

Like I said, I reaaaaally don't think funnygirl has done anything that should make her a prime wolf target. She isn't clear of course, but she's definitely not D0 lynch material for me.

She should try to put herself in the spotlight though, I guess if she's town she shouldn't fear saying more than she is, and as far as that is concerned, I would be more inclined to agree with you on her post being bad, as it doesn't explicitly talk about herself with logic and reason, much like you pointed out. That is way worse than whatever "appeal to emotion" you may have sniffed out.

Re: TWG 187: Senpai [Game Thread]
 

I really should have said it, that town read I gave him was stupid rofl but anyway, I've got my eye on him as well this game because he is also giving me similar vibes with his lack of commitment/enthusiasm for the game

Re: TWG 187: Senpai [Game Thread]
 

Wolves that clam up when threathened are just being wolves.
Towns that clam up in the same scenario are just being bad.

Re: TWG 187: Senpai [Game Thread]
 

This is sketchy as hell, since at the time, FFA was the most involved player in that game...

Oh hell, I did say you looked better when wolfing out your town game. I am scumreading the shit out of most of what you say lol, but somehow I think it suits you better than whatever you were doing in the AN game xD

Re: TWG 187: Senpai [Game Thread]
 

he was active in the game but he wasn't committed in the way that I mean, like emotionally invested is what I meant

Re: TWG 187: Senpai [Game Thread]
 

I'm actually gonna explain what I mean with "wolfy Raeko" being towny:

I just think wolf Raeko would be extra careful not to give away weird info, would double check before making claims, etc. Town Raeko would say whatever to get a discussion going and not so worried about making weird posts. I dunno how true that is, but this sounds like something you'd do.

Re: TWG 187: Senpai [Game Thread]
 

I feel like this read, coming from you, is a great compliment :mrgreen:

Re: TWG 187: Senpai [Game Thread]
 

Oh he definitely was though, most people were 100% convinced he was town. sunfan even said that if FFA was a fucking wolf, he was willing to give him the game because it was too good lmao

Re: TWG 187: Senpai [Game Thread]
 

his commitment won him the MVP title from t-force (which I deserved, screw you trevorinos).

Re: TWG 187: Senpai [Game Thread]
 

I guess we just see it differently. I thought he was confident and (at one point) towny but he still had a flippant attitude and I wouldn't have called him really "invested" emotionally, but that's definitely up for interpretation

Re: TWG 187: Senpai [Game Thread]
 

Also where the fuck is dafty pixel?

He's a friend of mine who has actually played this a lot IRL, he's kind of a fan of masculine homoerotic anime shit and thought he was gonna spam the hell out of this thread with it

What the hell is he doing lol

Re: TWG 187: Senpai [Game Thread]
 

welp, my gut says town pile but my brain says wolf pile since he neglected to post anything :thonking:

Re: TWG 187: Senpai [Game Thread]
 

pls bait him out with your best yaoi art

Re: TWG 187: Senpai [Game Thread]
 

btw I did say I would post cute stuff so here's a wallpaper art thing from like my 2nd favorite anime or something idk