Definition of SDG
 

Discussion for the term SDG (Single Digit Good) should go here, we want some serious community input on this. HARD QUESTION IS HARD.

What do you consider an SDG?

Good < 10-0-0-0
Good < 10-x-x-x
250pts Raw Scoring less then a AAA

Current thoughts on it:


So basically, your options are those three, unless someone has a better suggestion. Feel free to discuss, etc.

(reposted from other thread because that's kind of in the vet forum only, want more input than just vets)

Re: Definition of SDG
 

this is what I got in my thread

I voted for the first option, a clean SDG, since that's what I believe to be a 'true SDG', while the others are just technically SDGs.

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I always thought that if you got a score like

7-1-0-1 it was still a sdg
something like
8-1-0-1 wouldn't be because an average is a little worse then a good and it wouldn't be the same total of points on a song that 9-0-0-0 is

in conclusion I think as long as the total score of the song is the same value or better then 9-0-0-0 it is an sdg

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^ Basically option 3 with a -slight- bit smaller window, would be <= -225 or less for Raw rather than < -250

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9-0-0-4 or lower, aite? aite

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The problem seems to be how we name this term versus the value of the term. The term is called "single digit good" but has various meanings. When it's called "single digit good" it's open to interpretation whether one takes into account the word "good" or not. If so, some people may refer to a stricter definition (i.e. your first two options in the poll). Other people may encompass a broader definition to include a raw score that's equivalent to 9.5 goods or less. "SDG" is a pretty nonspecific term.

My personal opinion is that an SDG is a raw score equivalent to 9.5 goods/250 pts.

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I actually agree, bmah. thanks for editing it for my, btw lol

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poll direly needs an all of the above option.

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for practical purposes the raw scoring definition should be used. we assign point values to each judgment such that multiple combinations can make the same raw score, and so it only makes sense to treat those scores as equal.

for colloquial/impractical purposes, it really doesn't matter at all rofl people are gonna call their scores what they will and trying to set an official sort of score to call an sdg would be silly

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This is actually for Velo's new engine to be precise, and he already stated that he isn't implementing more than one of the options.

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First option is clean SDG, I don't really have clean scores nor do I see clean SDGs that often because I'm playing high FGOs, but yeah I don't really call that a SDG

Second option... well it's the literal term, SINGLE digit good.

Third option is the one I picked, because as long as your raw score is higher than (AAA-250), it's considered SDG imo.

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In that case, option 3 is the obvious choice.

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I don't know why this is such a hard question.
A Single Digit Good should be just that; a score that has single digit goods. Does not matter to me whether it's 9-0-0-0 or 9-53-32-2335.

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I chose the third option because ever since I've played FFR, I implemented the -250 from an AAA rule. In regards to scoring, a SDG score would be the same way the tier points system figures out how many points you get per total, not by just good counts alone.

If taken literally, then yes, good count < 10 is an SDG. But if that's the case, a literal SDG does not regard how much averages, misses or boos you got. The second option then suggests [5-2-1-11] as an SDG, but not everyone would automatically agree... I wouldn't for the miss, but subjectivemania.

First option is an SDG, but I would consider it nothing more than a clean SDG, neither true nor definite. Maybe if we change the name of a score (x-0-0-0) where 1 < x < 10 as P[erfect]SDG or C[lean]SDG or something along that line...

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otl I've been treating it as the second option
assuming of course that the score was a pass and not something too ridiculous (8-40-900-30 or something ==)

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See, that's when things can get fuzzy. There's obviously a general line between ridiculous and not, but this "general line" allows for subjectivity and opinion.

Definition =/= opinion

The second option suggests 9-200-300-400 is an SDG. While an unlikely score, loopholes like this still shouldn't be possible to be described as correct by a definition.

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I fail to see your point however, because everyone has their own opinion, conscious or sub-conscious, about the definition of any given word or phrase. Definitions are not created in nature, they are manifested and evolved through our interactions with others, and hence aren't set in stone.

Anyways, I prefer the 2nd definition on the list, considering it is the most literal. Although, I'm rather biased since I miss a lot, which is the main reason why I support the 2nd definition so much. xD

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single digit greats.

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I think I'm getting a little bit confused on this. The third option is raw scoring right?

So isn't a score like 0-0-4-0 still considered an sdg?

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Oh yeah, I'm just saying that my high-sdg's with one miss and mid-sdg's with multiple misses on fmo's wouldn't be counted in the 3rd definition and my fmo "sdg" list would be much shorter. xD