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Re: TWG 190: Written in Blood and Betrayal - Game Thread

Ok here's your and DPB's progression on the matter

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Originally Posted by Charu (Post 4702290)

Is it weird to say right now that getting lynched was a backup plan? Because it totally is.

It's why I'm cool with it for once. If I'm someone important or not is of no consequence since full flips are active. That's just how TWG be, y'know?

And I know what you're thinking. "Whoa, what is this mindset? He's trying to play some super trickster thing"

Nah, it's honestly the truth, bucko.

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Originally Posted by Charu (Post 4702297)

Hold on, let me fetch a storn quote

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Originally Posted by Charu (Post 4702305)

Guess no vote for Funny either, eh?

Fine

Wayward Vagabond

If anything, at least I won't just submit to death. But I'll accept if I get lynched anyways, dohoho.

So already at this point it's ok being lynched to naw gotta not submit to death.

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Originally Posted by Charu (Post 4702308)

If backpack votes for me, no harm done.

He's still top town as far as I care in my eyes.

DBP never said he was voting for you, this was not in the discussion.

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Originally Posted by DaBackpack (Post 4702309)

how about you fucking fight for yourself

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Originally Posted by Charu (Post 4702310)

I really don't think a storn lynch will happen, just look at the responses after my long post.

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Originally Posted by Charu (Post 4702312)

Because why should I? I gave plenty of information I feel, and that's enough for TWG standards. Can't change others opinion on me unless I want to go in their face and show my penis, mmm?

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Originally Posted by DaBackpack (Post 4702316)

stick your dick in their faces IDGAF

this looks like throwing right now

Does it DBP? He's trying to save himself if we go by his current action (wayward vote) so that's kind of the opposite. It's only throwing if he's bussing his partner

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Originally Posted by Charu (Post 4702319)

I agree the wayward lynch gives nothing to town, btw.

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Originally Posted by Charu (Post 4702320)

Throwing is if I self vote.

I ain't going to self vote.

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Originally Posted by Charu (Post 4702322)

Actually, there's 3 minutes, backpack, what DO you want me to do?

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Originally Posted by Charu (Post 4702325)

I could join you on the storn vote, but that'll put us back at KitB... which is "throwing"

This makes sense, it's Charu's following actions that contradict this mindset that baffle me.

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Originally Posted by DaBackpack (Post 4702327)

let the record show I tried to lynch storn but it didn't work

wayward vagabond

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Originally Posted by DaBackpack (Post 4702329)

Storn is super fucking sketchy but just self-pres

Read this as salt at the time, still do.

Then Kappa Votes Storn, which in itself is a shitty vote but he was never going to vote Wayward and I get he was 50/50 on Charu. I would critics this vote further but he's already flipped town.

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Originally Posted by 123kappa3 (Post 4702331)

storn the way backpack is voted i want to do this

A minute later Charu votes followed by DBP

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Originally Posted by Charu (Post 4702335)

storn

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Originally Posted by DaBackpack (Post 4702336)

ugh storn

It's been mentioned too many times already that this puts the game in KitB. It also kind of betrays what Charu had been saying.

I tried reading this as if you saw the Kappa vote and was like "yeah ok that's a viable wagon" and no, it doesn't look like that happened still. This progressing is still gross.

Re: TWG 190: Written in Blood and Betrayal - Game Thread

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Originally Posted by MixMasterLar (Post 4702538)

When I made that post, it would've been a KitB with myself and Wayward.

When I made the storn vote, it was still in favor for Wayward

When backpack made the vote, it was now a KitB for not just me and Wayward, but Storn, the person I wanted, as well.

"Betray"?

No, I'm voting for who I believed to be a wolf and a better lynched. I am not "throwing" still, so where the FUCK are you getting this weird notion from?

It would be throwing if I voted storn and let the KitB on me and Wayward come to fruition.

Re: TWG 190: Written in Blood and Betrayal - Game Thread

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Originally Posted by Charu (Post 4702539)

It would be throwing if I voted storn and let the KitB on me and Wayward come to fruition.

Which....is kinda what happened?
Oh but you didnt know DBP would switch?

Then why change at all if that was a risk?

If you wherent sure that DBP would switch then why change when for all you know someone could just as easily change their vote to you and now oops you got a dead vote on storn not helping the self pres

Re: TWG 190: Written in Blood and Betrayal - Game Thread

Hey, MML

If KitB picked me instead and flipped town

Would you still think backpack was a wolf?

Re: TWG 190: Written in Blood and Betrayal - Game Thread

Like, you get no matter which way I cut this pie the slices still fall about right?

Re: TWG 190: Written in Blood and Betrayal - Game Thread

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Originally Posted by Charu (Post 4702541)

Hey, MML

If KitB picked me instead and flipped town

Would you still think backpack was a wolf?

From your point of view why does this matter right now, especially since I've answered this with FFA?

While he could be trying to save Wayward, his actions make less sense if he's wolf knowing you are town.

Re: TWG 190: Written in Blood and Betrayal - Game Thread

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Originally Posted by MixMasterLar (Post 4702540)

I was half not expecting and hoping that he would to be honest. Half of it was me making a statement, half of it was me hoping backpack would join me and get storn.

And even then, why is this considered a bad thing?

I'm no longer putting a needless KitB on myself and a lynch that I believe to be bad regardless of flip. I'm putting a KitB with an extra person that I actually wanted to vote.

Re: TWG 190: Written in Blood and Betrayal - Game Thread

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Originally Posted by Charu (Post 4702544)

I'm no longer putting a needless KitB on myself and a lynch that I believe to be bad regardless of flip. I'm putting a KitB with an extra person that I actually wanted to vote.

So I guess the question, do I believe Town Charu would agree with the risk

And my answer is no. Even reading it back with your explanation in mind I don't feel that way.

Re: TWG 190: Written in Blood and Betrayal - Game Thread

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Originally Posted by MixMasterLar (Post 4702543)

It matters because your current world makes less sense than that.

One could argue Backpack made that last vote because of an opening suddenly to save his partner.

Falls flat when wolves probably knew Wayward would get modkilled though since we went through so many replacements already.

But it's still more believable than pairing me and backpack together.

Let me repeat, because that's apparently what I'm going to have to do here.

What sense does it make for a wolf team to purposely have two of their teammates in a KitB?

Re: TWG 190: Written in Blood and Betrayal - Game Thread

If this was "coordinated" as Shadow is stating.

You're basically expecting a wolf chat to say

"hey man, put yourself in a KitB with a dead wolf anyways, for the lols"

Re: TWG 190: Written in Blood and Betrayal - Game Thread

All in a span of 60 seconds, let me remind you

Re: TWG 190: Written in Blood and Betrayal - Game Thread

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Originally Posted by Charu (Post 4702537)

WAYWARD IS A BAD, INFORMATIONLESS LYNCH

STORN WAS MY WOLF TARGET

KAPPA OPENED THE CHANCE TO AVOID BAD, INFORMATIONLESS LYNCH.

I get what you're saying Charu

But I disagree that a Wayward lynch would have been informationless. Even if he had been lynched, we would have still had the information of who was willing to vote for him

Since he was already going to be modkilled I think bussing is a high probability

Flash flash voted wayward pretty early and has expressed wanting to lynch inactives, and I know I am town, so that leaves Svaz with the highest chance of bussing

And we know she has done this in the past in the exact same situation

I think the timing of her vote is what strikes me the most, wayward already had one vote on him (meaning she knew the train had a possibility of picking up) and the vote was placed around 20 min before EOD, when she could be reasonably sure he wasn't going to show up and would be modkilled

idk that makes way more sense to me than Charu and backpack doing whatever they did intentionally. I don't think they are both wolves, tho it's very possible one of them is

Re: TWG 190: Written in Blood and Betrayal - Game Thread

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Originally Posted by mellon_collie (Post 4702549)

But I disagree that a Wayward lynch would have been informationless. Even if he had been lynched, we would have still had the information of who was willing to vote for him

Which would leave...

Only FFA...

No one else really wanted to except maybe MML who expressed at the time better an inactive go then and not sit in the game untouched.

Re: TWG 190: Written in Blood and Betrayal - Game Thread

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Re: TWG 190: Written in Blood and Betrayal - Game Thread

charu can't really reasonably defend his EOD actions because with wayward-5/charu-3 his move gets rid of his chance for self pres
which isn't AI, it's nonsensical
I'd much prefer it if he said "storn is w was the hill I wanted to die on" but he's not saying that
storn was a goody though

backpack trying to save a wolf partner at EOD isn't a great argument either, unless charu is also a wolf partner- which is the going hypothesis

this still doesn't make sense in the context that "wayward is going to be modkilled tonight" and if wolves weren't planning around that and pulled it well that sucks tbh sorry guys

the alternative is "wayward is gonna be modkilled soon and some people already want to lynch him, let's just both get on him for cred"

and raeko is individually still wolfy

just my 2c

Re: TWG 190: Written in Blood and Betrayal - Game Thread

so basically, we need to see charu's flip to progress the game
no matter how towny you act or how many wolves you're on, even if you flip t it's still a pro town outcome, cause last eod was a cluster and your flip paints a much clearer picture

Re: TWG 190: Written in Blood and Betrayal - Game Thread

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Originally Posted by Charu (Post 4702497)

No FFA, that's a compliment to you, honestly

I take this back now

Re: TWG 190: Written in Blood and Betrayal - Game Thread

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Originally Posted by flashflash account (Post 4702556)

How so?

I'm telling you I'm town

Why are you, MML, Shadow, and whoever the heck else WAITING

Re: TWG 190: Written in Blood and Betrayal - Game Thread

Assume both worlds, if I'm wolf, then give actually a good cause of how in the world this pairing of me and backpack makes sense.

And if not backpack, pick my partners. Who would be my partner in crime this game?