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PrawnSkunk 08-6-2019 11:22 PM

R^3 OT Edition Release
 
Hi, everyone. With Round 1 of the Official Tournament right around the corner, we're releasing an updated version of R^3 Byron Edition, an alpha build that's optimized for performance.

Download R^3 OT Edition v1.0.1

Here is a complete list of changes. There is no guarantee of updatability (this alpha build will likely break next patch).

v1.0.0 (2019-08-06)
• Upgraded compiler to ASC 2.0, 400% less overhead on runtime
• Upgraded AIR SDK from 29 to 32
• VSync disabled
• Songs play as bytestreams instead of SWFs
• Prefers discrete GPUs over integrated

v1.0.1 (2019-08-07)
• Supports window scaling
• All v0.0.8 features & bug fixes

Praise Byron,
Zag & Prawn

Dinglesberry 08-6-2019 11:23 PM

Re: R^3 OT Edition Release
 
oshi

Deamerai 08-6-2019 11:24 PM

Re: R^3 OT Edition Release
 
bless

FirstMaple8 08-6-2019 11:26 PM

Re: R^3 OT Edition Release
 
oshi

FirstMaple8 08-6-2019 11:30 PM

Re: R^3 OT Edition Release
 
i cant get into fullscreen with this.

PrawnSkunk 08-6-2019 11:36 PM

Re: R^3 OT Edition Release
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by FirstMaple8 (Post 4691262)
i cant get into fullscreen with this.

We had to disable scaling for this build to avoid massive screen tearing :V

Dinglesberry 08-6-2019 11:39 PM

Re: R^3 OT Edition Release
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by PrawnSkunk (Post 4691264)
We had to disable scaling for this build to avoid massive screen tearing :V

dont worry maple is just a big dum he said it runs good he just had his offset wrong

FirstMaple8 08-6-2019 11:40 PM

Re: R^3 OT Edition Release
 
yea i play fine in windowed i got this as first file of the day lmao. Im so glad ffr runs good now, i was very worried about the tournament. #level91today

Zageron 08-6-2019 11:42 PM

Re: R^3 OT Edition Release
 
Ya'welk

SubaruPoptart 08-6-2019 11:43 PM

Re: R^3 OT Edition Release
 
Is this like the old Byron? Can I do 100 FPS again? Cuz if so I love y'all forever.

PrawnSkunk 08-6-2019 11:47 PM

Re: R^3 OT Edition Release
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SubaruPoptart (Post 4691268)
Is this like the old Byron? Can I do 100 FPS again? Cuz if so I love y'all forever.

Ya'vol

Deidara837 08-6-2019 11:48 PM

Re: R^3 OT Edition Release
 
midget FFR leggooooo


123kappa3 08-6-2019 11:52 PM

Re: R^3 OT Edition Release
 
Yay :)

SubaruPoptart 08-7-2019 12:12 AM

Re: R^3 OT Edition Release
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by PrawnSkunk (Post 4691270)
Ya'vol

I have no idea what that means but I'mma take that as a yes so YUHHHH

Dinglesberry 08-7-2019 12:22 AM

Re: R^3 OT Edition Release
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SubaruPoptart (Post 4691284)
I have no idea what that means but I'mma take that as a yes so YUHHHH

it has the word ya in it so ur probably right

gold stinger 08-7-2019 12:22 AM

Re: R^3 OT Edition Release
 
Steroids right before the Olympics.

SubaruPoptart 08-7-2019 01:05 AM

Re: R^3 OT Edition Release
 
All I know is that if y'all got avast make sure it's not flagging the exe as a virus cuz I had to go and make an exception for it cuz every time I closed it out, it'd delete itself.

MikeShinoda12345 08-7-2019 01:56 AM

Re: R^3 OT Edition Release
 
Does this work on Mac?

Antori 08-7-2019 03:40 AM

Re: R^3 OT Edition Release
 
BYRON IS BACK PEPEGAHANDS

SK8R43 08-7-2019 04:41 AM

Re: R^3 OT Edition Release
 
Avast wont let me use the engine lol. says its harmful and being looked at....

Antori 08-7-2019 05:24 AM

Re: R^3 OT Edition Release
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SK8R43 (Post 4691300)
Avast wont let me use the engine lol. says its harmful and being looked at....

OMEGALUL

Dinglesberry 08-7-2019 05:26 AM

Re: R^3 OT Edition Release
 
disable avast

SK8R43 08-7-2019 05:27 AM

Re: R^3 OT Edition Release
 
Disable my only antivirus protection? haha

Antori 08-7-2019 07:40 AM

Re: R^3 OT Edition Release
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SK8R43 (Post 4691304)
Disable my only antivirus protection? haha

haHA

DossarLX ODI 08-7-2019 08:03 AM

Re: R^3 OT Edition Release
 
A bit off-topic but I do miss Byron/Rebound/i love you.

Glad to see the movement towards bytestream and millisecond-based timing over frames/rounding, especially for this Official Tournament! :)

SK8R43 08-7-2019 10:14 AM

Re: R^3 OT Edition Release
 
Got it to work...kinda. It lags like a motherfucker. Unless 55 framerate wont work on it, but i also tried 60, and 59 and still lags. Way worse than regular air :(

Zageron 08-7-2019 10:51 AM

Re: R^3 OT Edition Release
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MikeShinoda12345 (Post 4691294)
Does this work on Mac?

If you have the air runtime installed and you install the .air package, it should. But untested.

Quote:

Originally Posted by SK8R43 (Post 4691315)
Got it to work...kinda. It lags like a motherfucker. Unless 55 framerate wont work on it, but i also tried 60, and 59 and still lags. Way worse than regular air :(

I recall a few people had this issue last time, so nothing we can do. It's a super high success rate. :(

PhantomPuppy 08-7-2019 11:43 AM

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hmm... well this is nice and all but imma stick with the old version that lets me fullscreen for now lol

Dinglesberry 08-7-2019 11:53 AM

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o wow u cant even stretch the window, it letterboxes, oof

Dinglesberry 08-7-2019 11:54 AM

Re: R^3 OT Edition Release
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by PhantomPuppy (Post 4691323)
hmm... well this is nice and all but imma stick with the old version that lets me fullscreen for now lol

you could always just set ur monitor resolution to 800x600 and make sure gpu display scaling is on so 144hz etc still works

probably what im gonna do

also regarding people who are lagging etc, the way i see it is

"• Prefers discrete GPUs over integrated"

most likely the game is gonna run worse (or the same) if u dont have a graphics card/are using a laptop with integrated graphics etc

SmexxxyBeast 08-7-2019 12:28 PM

Re: R^3 OT Edition Release
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dinglesberry (Post 4691325)
you could always just set ur monitor resolution to 800x600 and make sure gpu display scaling is on so 144hz etc still works

probably what im gonna do

also regarding people who are lagging etc, the way i see it is

"• Prefers discrete GPUs over integrated"

most likely the game is gonna run worse (or the same) if u dont have a graphics card/are using a laptop with integrated graphics etc

eh i just use 250 fps on my laptop and that works fine, 59 fps ran like shit for me as well but thats just cuz byron is capable of so many more frames than that haha

.Gazelle. 08-7-2019 02:15 PM

Re: R^3 OT Edition Release
 
is 55/59 still optimal fps on this or does it not matter? also is there a way to get the perfects to stop disappearing once notes start coming in faster?

Coolboyrulez0 08-7-2019 02:51 PM

Re: R^3 OT Edition Release
 
Pog

Zageron 08-7-2019 03:37 PM

Re: R^3 OT Edition Release
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by .Gazelle. (Post 4691338)
is 55/59 still optimal fps on this or does it not matter? also is there a way to get the perfects to stop disappearing once notes start coming in faster?

Optimal framerate is whatever works best for you. Animation playback is at framerate, so accuracy plays back super fast.

rushyrulz 08-7-2019 04:37 PM

Re: R^3 OT Edition Release
 
pog new engine

Poison- 08-7-2019 07:03 PM

Re: R^3 OT Edition Release
 
Feels like it's running at 20 fps

Dinglesberry 08-7-2019 08:09 PM

Re: R^3 OT Edition Release
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Zageron (Post 4691343)
Optimal framerate is whatever works best for you. Animation playback is at framerate, so accuracy plays back super fast.

can u low key just delete flash already and recode the game in a real language/engine and just call it flash flash revolution anyways?

TC_Halogen 08-7-2019 09:30 PM

Re: R^3 OT Edition Release
 
inability to resize is definitely a deal-breaker for me on this build, which is a shame...

not sure if i'm an isolated case or if this is intentional - there seems to be a strange behavior in tweening for judgment feedback for amazing/perfect judgments; instead of restarting the animation for a given judgment, it seems to proceed through tweening even if a judgment changes and doesn't reset unless the next note is a respectable distance away.

this is particularly distracting at the start of streams because a quick sequence of alternating amazing/perfect judgments at the start of a stream gives you no different feedback and continuing to hit notes in a fast enough interval keeps the judgment hidden until you get a judgment that is lower than a perfect.

edit: this behavior also exists with averages as well - if you stream constant averages, the judgment disappears and will not reappear until you get a different judgment

Zageron 08-7-2019 09:35 PM

Re: R^3 OT Edition Release
 
Forgot to post here, but a new version with lots of fixes and ability to scale is coming tonight.

The accuracy animation thing is a lot more work to fix and is a known issue, yeah. It's related to the framerate that it's set to, and has always been an issue.

Dinglesberry 08-7-2019 09:53 PM

Re: R^3 OT Edition Release
 
thank god cause low key it ran like garbage and i just wanted to be nice

Zageron 08-7-2019 10:01 PM

Re: R^3 OT Edition Release
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dinglesberry (Post 4691411)
thank god cause low key it ran like garbage and i just wanted to be nice

Low-key if it runs like garbage it will still run like garbage sadface :(

PrawnSkunk 08-7-2019 11:15 PM

Re: R^3 OT Edition Release
 
Download R^3 OT Edition v1.0.1

• Supports window scaling
• All v0.0.8 features & bug fixes

- Zag

Dinglesberry 08-8-2019 04:31 AM

Re: R^3 OT Edition Release
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Zageron (Post 4691414)
Low-key if it runs like garbage it will still run like garbage sadface :(

aw im sorry zaggy i know u beauties actually coding FFR are basically fighting an uphill battle

the new engine works great and feels smooth. it doesnt feel as smooth as etterna etc but i mean, for a fuckin browser game it feels nice

SK8R43 08-8-2019 07:01 AM

Re: R^3 OT Edition Release
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SmexxxyBeast (Post 4691330)
eh i just use 250 fps on my laptop and that works fine, 59 fps ran like shit for me as well but thats just cuz byron is capable of so many more frames than that haha

holy shit, low key 250 framerate actually works. Tried it on my desktop and so far no issues. I had 5g until the long OHT on FotBB and ive never done that before lmao


EDIT: Btw, this is with the new update. Its not perfect, but it does feel really smooth and definitely playable.


MA feels a bit better, too

Gingerham 08-8-2019 03:22 PM

Re: R^3 OT Edition Release
 
The concept of this is really awesome. It lags for me though :(

basicdrummerman 08-8-2019 03:29 PM

Re: R^3 OT Edition Release
 
It still feels/looks super choppy for me. Not sure why, really stutters a lot.

SC_coolguy44 08-8-2019 06:41 PM

Re: R^3 OT Edition Release
 
When I played it, it took a few songs for most of the lag to go away. Also, one weird thing, my ranks on a song didn't show up under my avatar on the score display. They didn't show up at all.

YoshL 08-9-2019 06:03 AM

Re: R^3 OT Edition Release
 
i had to find out the refresh rate of my monitor, turn on vsync, and match the in game framerate to that and wow all lag is gone

Dinglesberry 08-9-2019 06:13 AM

Re: R^3 OT Edition Release
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by YoshL (Post 4691664)
i had to find out the refresh rate of my monitor

if you have to find out the refresh rate you probably have 60hz since its like a shitload more expensive for 144hz but damn its good ur game runs good now

YoshL 08-9-2019 08:00 AM

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it was 59 hz :agony:

choof 08-9-2019 10:48 AM

Re: R^3 OT Edition Release
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SK8R43 (Post 4691304)
Disable my only antivirus protection? haha

most, if not all, antivirus programs let you create exceptions. put air in it's own folder and make the folder an exception

PhantomPuppy 08-9-2019 03:57 PM

Re: R^3 OT Edition Release
 
oh sick, fullscreen version. why of course i'll download it now :D

also after a bit of testing, the old 59 FPS trick doesn't work. it lags there. however, setting to 250 FPS makes it the smoothest FFR i've ever played in my life. hats off to the dev team.

Pizza69 08-9-2019 04:32 PM

Re: R^3 OT Edition Release
 
yeah wow 250fps works wonders. i thought i'd just stick with regular air at 59 but this is buttery smooth

SK8R43 08-9-2019 04:38 PM

Re: R^3 OT Edition Release
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by choof (Post 4691685)
most, if not all, antivirus programs let you create exceptions. put air in it's own folder and make the folder an exception

I was going to try something like this but it randomly worked the third time i tried it. Not sure if the devs fixed it or if my comp just decided to cooporate lol

FFR Pro 21 08-26-2019 10:19 PM

Re: R^3 OT Edition Release
 
Any helpful tips/tricks to help me stream FFR on Twitch without the massive lag spikes due to streaming the game?

Even playing the OT Edition still results in massive lag spikes when I try to stream and play. :(

Psychotik 08-26-2019 10:35 PM

Re: R^3 OT Edition Release
 
Can always try to lower the bitrate at which you stream. You can find it in your output settings.

j-rodd123 08-29-2019 04:45 PM

Re: R^3 OT Edition Release
 
can anyone please help me get the air engine to work? i downloaded the link in the OP and downloaded adobe AIR and when I try to open the R3Air application I get a message that the application requires a version of AdobeAIR which cannot be found. then it provides a link to adobe.go.com/getair which i downloaded again (also uninstalled and reinstalled) and if i try to install again it says "This Vesion of Adobe Air is aleady installed on your system"

really not sure what to do but any help would be appreciated

rushyrulz 08-30-2019 08:06 AM

Re: R^3 OT Edition Release
 
What version u got?

go to C:\Program Files (x86)\Common Files\Adobe AIR\Versions\1.0 and right click > properties > details on adobe air.dll

SK8R43 08-30-2019 09:04 AM

Re: R^3 OT Edition Release
 
Not sure why but I can no longer use air. Everytime I re download it, it says it's not secure and gets rid of it. Says it's a virus lol.

rushyrulz 08-30-2019 09:14 AM

Re: R^3 OT Edition Release
 
sounds like u got shitty antivirus software and/or security settings

j-rodd123 08-30-2019 09:23 AM

Re: R^3 OT Edition Release
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rushyrulz (Post 4696140)
What version u got?

go to C:\Program Files (x86)\Common Files\Adobe AIR\Versions\1.0 and right click > properties > details on adobe air.dll

Thanks rushy I’ll try looking into it when I get home

choof 08-30-2019 09:55 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by SK8R43 (Post 4696146)
Not sure why but I can no longer use air. Everytime I re download it, it says it's not secure and gets rid of it. Says it's a virus lol.

windows or your antivirus? whatever's deleting it, turn off it's real-time protection, download, then make the folder an exception.

SK8R43 08-30-2019 02:58 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by rushyrulz (Post 4696148)
sounds like u got shitty antivirus software and/or security settings

Unfortunately. got a "new" computer recently with windows 10 and it came with avast. lmao

Trying what choof said, though

SubaruPoptart 08-30-2019 03:56 PM

Re: R^3 OT Edition Release
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SK8R43 (Post 4696189)
Unfortunately. got a "new" computer recently with windows 10 and it came with avast. lmao

Trying what choof said, though

YEP YEP YEP. Go to your virus chest, make an exception for it. Works for me EVERY time.

j-rodd123 08-30-2019 05:34 PM

Re: R^3 OT Edition Release
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rushyrulz (Post 4696140)
What version u got?

go to C:\Program Files (x86)\Common Files\Adobe AIR\Versions\1.0 and right click > properties > details on adobe air.dll

32.0.0.125 is the version

rushyrulz 08-30-2019 11:31 PM

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newer than mine :/

snorlaxfatty 09-11-2019 09:06 PM

Re: R^3 OT Edition Release
 
I found a workaround that doesn't give you the Adobe air issues. You create a new shortcut on your desktop and set the location the R3air.exe file, where ever you have it. Should work perfectly without any issues.

neodarkmagicianking 10-13-2019 06:04 PM

Re: R^3 OT Edition Release
 
OK so I can't blame lag for being bad anymore.

But still, I am SO happy this is finally released / I found it. It's been so incredibly frustrating failing to FC 25 difficulty songs because of lag that I've kept stopping playing this game over the years.

freakeyes-NTG 10-21-2019 07:00 PM

Re: R^3 OT Edition Release
 
hmm have some Frame issues with the hit accuracy pops and judge works different on it from the other version which is interesting

Elah 12-19-2019 02:51 PM

Re: R^3 OT Edition Release
 
epic

Josemba 12-19-2019 02:51 PM

Re: R^3 OT Edition Release
 
oh em yi

PaigePrefer22 07-4-2020 03:36 PM

Re: R^3 OT Edition Release
 
Hey... I was wondering, do you know if there is an available air edition for mac os? :-)

FFP_D0pey 04-29-2021 11:21 AM

Re: R^3 OT Edition Release
 
hopefully this new build can keep up with my massive pressing of keys

ToonE156 07-25-2021 12:18 AM

Re: R^3 OT Edition Release
 
I know that I'm late to this but will this fix the 30 FPS lock/chopiness that FFR has?

SubaruPoptart 07-25-2021 12:27 AM

Re: R^3 OT Edition Release
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ToonE156 (Post 4765882)
I know that I'm late to this but will this fix the 30 FPS lock/chopiness that FFR has?

I use 40 FPS on 1.3.1 hybrid right now so I don't know if there's a lock but are you talking about "coke lines" on the PA graph?

ToonE156 07-25-2021 12:29 AM

Re: R^3 OT Edition Release
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SubaruPoptart (Post 4765883)
I use 40 FPS on 1.3.1 hybrid right now so I don't know if there's a lock but are you talking about "coke lines" on the PA graph?

"Coke lines"? No, sometimes when Im playing and trying to read a hard section sometimes it feels like the game starts running around 30 FPS, it seems like I'm not the only one with this problem and I can't seem to fix it. Also, hybrid?

SubaruPoptart 07-25-2021 12:32 AM

Re: R^3 OT Edition Release
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ToonE156 (Post 4765884)
"Coke lines"? No, sometimes when Im playing and trying to read a hard section sometimes it feels like the game starts running around 30 FPS, it seems like I'm not the only one with this problem and I can't seem to fix it. Also, hybrid?

Yeah if you go to the download section you can download either 1.3.1 regular, or 1.3.1 hybrid. I think the choppiness you're talking about is the coke lines thing.

When you go to the results screen and find the PA screen, the hits will tend to hover around the same frame/millisecond window because of choppiness like that. I can't find exactly where it is but there's a guide somewhere that shows roughly how to try to fix this kinda thing lemme see if I can find it

ToonE156 07-25-2021 12:36 AM

Re: R^3 OT Edition Release
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SubaruPoptart (Post 4765885)
Yeah if you go to the download section you can download either 1.3.1 regular, or 1.3.1 hybrid. I think the choppiness you're talking about is the coke lines thing.

When you go to the results screen and find the PA screen, the hits will tend to hover around the same frame/millisecond window because of choppiness like that. I can't find exactly where it is but there's a guide somewhere that shows roughly how to try to fix this kinda thing lemme see if I can find it

Here's a results screen that I have

If the coke lines are supposed to look like how I imagine it then I don't think I have it

ToonE156 07-25-2021 02:30 PM

Re: R^3 OT Edition Release
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SubaruPoptart (Post 4765885)
Yeah if you go to the download section you can download either 1.3.1 regular, or 1.3.1 hybrid. I think the choppiness you're talking about is the coke lines thing.

When you go to the results screen and find the PA screen, the hits will tend to hover around the same frame/millisecond window because of choppiness like that. I can't find exactly where it is but there's a guide somewhere that shows roughly how to try to fix this kinda thing lemme see if I can find it

so I downloaded the hybrid version and it seems to fix the low framerate that I got, thanks! just so you know, i have my framerate on 200.


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