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roundbox 07-20-2019 11:58 AM

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Read my posts plz thanks town

T-Force 07-20-2019 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Xiz (Post 4689007)
Pokeball Red (½ summon for pokemon battle minigame | CHARU)
Pokeball Blue (½ summon for pokemon battle minigame | TFORCE)

T-Force! T-Force!


Damn, that would've been fun.


Either way, A+ flavour in terms of characters and this game. Well done to Xiz!
Oh, and to Dev as well for pulling big boi plays in his first game in years.

roundbox 07-20-2019 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by roundbox (Post 4688759)
Svaz, dev: did you read my post regarding ShadowGod's playstyle this game compared to the jtwg? What do you think?

I think he's a miss

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Originally Posted by roundbox (Post 4688794)
don't think he read this in time, to shadowgod's defense

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Originally Posted by roundbox (Post 4688798)
xel, what's up
shadowgod, it's ok
also this looks town, don't lynch him tomorrow if we're wrong on xel THNX

I say this every game that I'm salty about this and will continue to do so until people take it more seriously

you should always read the posts of dead players, wolf and town
reread the thread, look at post history, construct reads that take the whole game into perspective and not just what people posted the current phase


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Also re: rule infractions: funnier6 was also guilty of posting about replacing out
We had multiple modkills this game too, which should never happen. Can we do something about this?

Svaz 07-20-2019 12:12 PM

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That was really well done Dev, good shit tbh

Also you knew your stuff against me was bullshit all along omg I’m crying

Please give me wincon d0 next time tia

Not devonin 07-20-2019 12:28 PM

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I was so on the fence for which way to do it.

I knew that in an F4 with roundbox/haku/svaz that I would die
I was confident in a thunderdome between Shadow and I that I could survive
I knew that in an F3 with any 2 of roundbox/haku/svaz that I would die

After my posts about knowing I'd die as soon as I revealed my role (which, if it were a real role, I think I -would- have been wolfed right after revealing it) I really only had two options

1.
Don't kill, claim to be guarded miraculously, push Shadow lynch to bring us to 3/1
Kill somebody in the night, be almost certainly lynched in the F3 and lose

2. Just go for it, kill somebody, try to frame Shadow, hope to god it works, win the F4

Doing the kill and trying to frame Shadow was extremely risky and I am actually shocked it worked, but I thought I knew I could count on Svaz to vote Shadow, and with Roundbox gone there was no more voice to push for Shadow as town

mellonxcollie 07-20-2019 12:29 PM

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Ummmmm xiz, how exactly is the monokuma role supposed to lose....?

If they get shot in the night, they have a vest so that won't make them lose. If they get lynched, they win. This role seems basically un-loseable

Not to even mention the completely overpowered rule changing aspect of it

No offense to funnygurl, but I don't think that win should count. The role seems compromised to me

devonin 07-20-2019 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by mellonxcollie (Post 4689036)
Ummmmm xiz, how exactly is the monokuma rule supposed to lose....?

If they get shot in the night, they have a vest so that won't make them lose. If they get lynched, they win. This role seems basically un-loseable

Not to even mention the completely overpowered rule changing aspect of it

No offense to funnygurl, but I don't think that win should count. The role seems compromised to me

We did have a kill power that could go through a vest, and enough random chances for people to die to eat the vest and then kill her, but yeah the rule changing thing was extremely risky if it didn't have some extremely hard limits on its use.

mellonxcollie 07-20-2019 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by devonin (Post 4689037)
We did have a kill power that could go through a vest, and enough random chances for people to die to eat the vest and then kill her, but yeah the rule changing thing was extremely risky if it didn't have some extremely hard limits on its use.

I don't think that's enough to balance it

The wolves would want to use that on someone who they think is being protected, not on a 3P that they didn't even know had a vest

devonin 07-20-2019 12:38 PM

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Oh for sure, and that's basically exactly how we used it.

gold stinger 07-20-2019 12:40 PM

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- Anyone who is unable to make 500 posts per day will result in a modkill. I will kill with no mercy. I might not even give you a warning. You will be banned from any future games I host if you fail to post.

Svaz 07-20-2019 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by gold stinger (Post 4689041)
- Anyone who is unable to make 500 posts per day will result in a modkill. I will kill with no mercy. I might not even give you a warning. You will be banned from any future games I host if you fail to post.

Lmfao

The true bastard game

Charu 07-20-2019 01:09 PM

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I appreciate you folks for not reading into Gradiant's post when he was suppose to be dead, but...

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Originally Posted by Gradiant (Post 4688389)
and i've got info that devonin didn't target soundwave.

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Originally Posted by Xiz (Post 4688409)
I'm really sorry everyone. Gradiant was given the wrong night result. I need to kill Gradiant. This is 100% my fault, I messed up. I'm deeply sorry everyone...



Gradiant has died, they were Youhei


Hello you beautiful and attractive white tiger. You are Youhei, a beastfallen mercenary. You want to open up a tavern. After you build your tavern, whoever enters your tavern may not be immune from all actions, but you will be able to see what happens to them. Town aligned.

- Build: Spend a night building the tavern (2 days)
- Fight: Once in the tavern, you force aggro from whoever you target to have their actions be carried out on you
- Cook: Once in the tavern, you feed your guest allowing them to be tracked by you




[[There will be no Game Show today due to this]]

These series of events should've, 100%, explained why the game was paused and should've, 100%, paint Devonin as the last remaining wolf.

HOWEVER there was ANOTHER post made by Dev that should've brought to everyone's attention.

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Originally Posted by Not devonin (Post 4688459)
Okay. Every night I target a player to spy on. If they die, I get to see who killed them. Obviously this is the kind of power that, once it's known, I'm target number 1 since I have the potential to catch out the last wolf. Now that there's no guards around, I will almost certainly die in the night.

Do you want more details? I can name myself if you want.

This right here should've raised 3000 red flags upon the start of the last day phase.

Charu 07-20-2019 01:10 PM

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Not saying wolves didn't deserve the win, just pointing out to town two major things I thought was pretty obvious, and I had no prior knowledge Dev was the last wolf until the error happened, lol.

Devonin did good~

devonin 07-20-2019 01:11 PM

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I mean, I spent previous days saying "I shouldn't say because I'll be a huge target when I do" and it wasn't until I was pushed that I said "okay here's what it is, now you can see why I'll be a huge target" so I did prime the reveal a little more back in time than just saying it so late.

devonin 07-20-2019 01:13 PM

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Also I jumped on the Cook power meaning he can track to suggest that the info he had was that he tracked my action on Roundbox that night where I killed Soundwave but smoked Roundbox so I'd have actions directed at 2 people.

Charu 07-20-2019 01:17 PM

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Fun fact, I was suppose to be in this game somehow, but I guess the sequence of events for that to happen never happened.

I was looking forward to messing with you all.

Funnygurl555 07-20-2019 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by gold stinger (Post 4689024)
Wanted to get this off my back and said I would in post-game, this conversation, is disgusting considering role flip & wincon. Wincon was getting lynched. To an extent, your goal was to play bad, and almost got replaced for not being able to handle criticism, for playing bad.

Really dirty plays imo, y'know, just try not to let it get the better of you next time, when your win condition is going to attract such attention.

i wasn't using my anger to win the game. i legit stopped caring about playing the game anymore because of how toxic the environment was, an environment that you'd unfortunately contributed to.

people were way too negative towards the beginning of the game. at first, it was directed towards ffa. i consider him a friend, and i don't want people picking on him to the extent that you guys did. his flaws aside-- and regardless of what his alignment was-- the comments towards him were so negative that even he blew up.

and then regarding the behavior towards me. i know i was playing bad. i was doing it intentionally, which is obvious now. however, constantly berating me since you perceived that i'm not a good twg player fucking SUCKS, especially since i've been putting in so much effort to being a better player. there are ways to address bad plays without saying "ur bad" or making snide remarks towards the messages i put out. since you really thought i was just being bad, have you considered offering constructive criticism? there are people who approached my bad plays that way, and i appreciate that. explain why i'm wrong; don't resort to personal attacks, please

i'm also going through a lot of stuff irl, and while normal me may have been able to handle the negativity and save it for post game, my patience right now is spent. the only thing i'll apologize for here is breaking the rules by mentioning subbing out.

nothing else.

Funnygurl555 07-20-2019 01:22 PM

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gj devonin. you were a textbook deep wolf

no one's letting you get away with that again though :P

Funnygurl555 07-20-2019 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by mellonxcollie (Post 4689036)
Ummmmm xiz, how exactly is the monokuma role supposed to lose....?

If they get shot in the night, they have a vest so that won't make them lose. If they get lynched, they win. This role seems basically un-loseable

Not to even mention the completely overpowered rule changing aspect of it

No offense to funnygurl, but I don't think that win should count. The role seems compromised to me

vest is 1 shot

devonin 07-20-2019 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Funnygurl555 (Post 4689051)
gj devonin. you were a textbook deep wolf

no one's letting you get away with that again though :P

Jokes on them, that's exactly how I play as town too, just with less fake reads and more real ones. So guess I'm just a forever lynch now :P


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