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maximemoring 01-27-2018 10:39 AM

Isn't it time we said goodbye to the non tool-assisted files?
 
I'm talking about those blue note ones that have notes constantly off-key, non-jumps, etc.

With the efforts to modernize the game, the game stil has a bunch of those old, inaccurate files that I simply don't want to do because of how they are, but still bring down my rank/average in-game.

I am sure that I am not the only one who feels like, especially considering today's standards with adding new files, they simply should be removed from the game entirely.

By the way, love the standalone Air version, smooth as butter.

blindreper1179 01-27-2018 11:57 AM

Re: Isn't it time we said goodbye to the non tool-assisted files?
 
Back in my day, that's all we had to play and it was good times. They're still around to show you youngins how we had it, where we came from. They'll always be here.

maximemoring 01-27-2018 12:41 PM

Re: Isn't it time we said goodbye to the non tool-assisted files?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by blindreper1179 (Post 4606711)
Back in my day, that's all we had to play and it was good times.

Exactly. That's all you had. It's not the case anymore (and hasn't been for a very long time) and it's only bringing the enjoyment down now because the game's ranking system still relies on them/takes them into consideration. They're just not fun to play anymore.

rushyrulz 01-27-2018 12:45 PM

Re: Isn't it time we said goodbye to the non tool-assisted files?
 
They were banished to the Legacy genre, but with this new fangled difficulty sorting, they're starting to show up in new players' day-to-day again. I definitely agree that it probably hurts the game more than helps it when a player runs into something like Until The End.

foxfire667 01-27-2018 01:09 PM

Re: Isn't it time we said goodbye to the non tool-assisted files?
 
We've already removed certain very stupid files from public ranking (e.g. Crowdpleaser v1). I'm surprised old legacy files haven't gotten an exclusive leaderboard yet, and maybe tucked a little more away so newbies don't stumble upon the garbage and think that's how FFR files typically operate.

I can see why they are still in game, but treating a lot of these very poorly synced songs like every other file is king of bleh. This is coming from someone who did bother to basically AAA every single one of them too.

storn42 01-27-2018 01:23 PM

Re: Isn't it time we said goodbye to the non tool-assisted files?
 
I don't think legacy files need to be taken out of the game, but puttimg something in the titles or something to help signal to people who are sortinf by difficulty that they are legacy.

rushyrulz 01-27-2018 01:47 PM

Re: Isn't it time we said goodbye to the non tool-assisted files?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by storn42 (Post 4606719)
I don't think legacy files need to be taken out of the game, but puttimg something in the titles or something to help signal to people who are sortinf by difficulty that they are legacy.

this

cedolad 01-27-2018 01:56 PM

Re: Isn't it time we said goodbye to the non tool-assisted files?
 
If I had to AAA all the blue butt fuck off sync garbage, you have to too.

Charu 01-27-2018 01:56 PM

Re: Isn't it time we said goodbye to the non tool-assisted files?
 
Blue Note Files are lit, don't hate!

Charu 01-27-2018 01:57 PM

Re: Isn't it time we said goodbye to the non tool-assisted files?
 
C-cedolad?

Ooo...

cedolad 01-27-2018 02:01 PM

Re: Isn't it time we said goodbye to the non tool-assisted files?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Charu (Post 4606724)
C-cedolad?

Ooo...

It's a ghooossstttt

Wayward Vagabond 01-27-2018 02:03 PM

Re: Isn't it time we said goodbye to the non tool-assisted files?
 
[legacy] song title

PixlSM 01-27-2018 02:07 PM

Re: Isn't it time we said goodbye to the non tool-assisted files?
 
I came into this thread expecting someone advocating for files that can only be completed with TAS tools

PrawnSkunk 01-27-2018 03:07 PM

Re: Isn't it time we said goodbye to the non tool-assisted files?
 
I agree. I'll be looking into ways to filter the Legacy genre from the main song selection.

foxfire667 01-27-2018 04:17 PM

Re: Isn't it time we said goodbye to the non tool-assisted files?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by PrawnSkunk (Post 4606730)
I agree. I'll be looking into ways to filter the Legacy genre from the main song selection.

Nice, glad that these sorts of little issues are being looked at in a more progressive light than they used to be. Thanks Prawn.

Dinglesberry 01-27-2018 06:10 PM

Re: Isn't it time we said goodbye to the non tool-assisted files?
 
Edit the blue note songs so half the notes are randomly red, and half blue

They'll never know...

MrPoptart 01-27-2018 06:21 PM

Re: Isn't it time we said goodbye to the non tool-assisted files?
 
Taking them out of the public levelranks and putting them into the token or maybe even their own levelranks is way past due. I've seen so many threads suggesting this over the years and the only argument I've seen against doing it is:
Quote:

Originally Posted by cedolad (Post 4606722)
If I had to AAA all the blue butt fuck off sync garbage, you have to too.

Which is a terrible argument and reads more like: "I don't think something should be improved because I also think it needs to be improved but am bitter about having to deal with it for so long." There's no reason to subject new players or even current players to them and as long as you get to keep your scores I don't see the problem.

mellonxcollie 01-27-2018 07:02 PM

Re: Isn't it time we said goodbye to the non tool-assisted files?
 
Respect your elders punks

devonin 01-27-2018 07:06 PM

Re: Isn't it time we said goodbye to the non tool-assisted files?
 
For god sakes, fix them and reskin them and make them proper songs like everything else.

Keeping old junk because we want to be proud of how the game used to be shittier is just dumb and stupid.

mellonxcollie 01-27-2018 07:13 PM

Re: Isn't it time we said goodbye to the non tool-assisted files?
 
it's a part of our heritage


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