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Hakulyte 07-8-2019 12:42 AM

Re: TWG 187: Senpai [Game Thread]
 
So far you feel mechanically helpful in an objective way.

I don't really have a read on you beyond that.

Not devonin 07-8-2019 12:42 AM

Re: TWG 187: Senpai [Game Thread]
 
(not sure if about to get a "Yeah you must be inexperienced because these takes suck" or a "Wow you're that inexperienced, you're doing well")

Soundwave- 07-8-2019 12:45 AM

Re: TWG 187: Senpai [Game Thread]
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Not devonin (Post 4684306)
(not sure if about to get a "Yeah you must be inexperienced because these takes suck" or a "Wow you're that inexperienced, you're doing well")

I mean you arent freezing up, which is more than most

the sun fan 07-8-2019 12:46 AM

Re: TWG 187: Senpai [Game Thread]
 
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Originally Posted by Not devonin (Post 4684303)
game 4 -> was the Cavernio game, I honestly can't remember if I was a player, or if I just had to wade in as staff, but it ended...badly

you were not a player, as you lived in the same house as her at the time, I think

Not devonin 07-8-2019 12:54 AM

Re: TWG 187: Senpai [Game Thread]
 
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Originally Posted by the sun fan (Post 4684308)
you were not a player, as you lived in the same house as her at the time, I think

Which is why everything went down the way it did, but lets not get back into that unless we need to.

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Originally Posted by Soundwave- (Post 4684307)
I mean you arent freezing up, which is more than most

In theory, in the imaginary world where TWG is actually a game of pure logic and deduction, it is right in my wheelhouse. This doesn't always carry over to the gut reads, induction and metagaming that actual TWG seems to be, but inasmuch as there are mechanical threads for me to tug at, and logic to apply, there's nothing for me to freeze up -about-

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Originally Posted by Hakulyte (Post 4684305)
So far you feel mechanically helpful in an objective way.

I don't really have a read on you beyond that.

Unfortunately for people who want like...left field cunning insights into who must be the wolves, my skillset is to be mechanically helpful in an objective way.

the sun fan 07-8-2019 01:24 AM

Re: TWG 187: Senpai [Game Thread]
 
hey devonin (and no one else answer this) I got a mechanics puzzle for ya

Players A-E are roleblockers, Player F is vanilla Town

Player A targets Player B, Player B targets Player C, Player C targets Player D, Player D targets Player E, Player E targets Player F.

Who is roleblocked?

Not devonin 07-8-2019 01:31 AM

Re: TWG 187: Senpai [Game Thread]
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by the sun fan (Post 4684312)
hey devonin (and no one else answer this) I got a mechanics puzzle for ya

Players A-E are roleblockers, Player F is vanilla Town

Player A targets Player B, Player B targets Player C, Player C targets Player D, Player D targets Player E, Player E targets Player F.

Who is roleblocked?

I'm going to go with "My understanding is that the host would apply these in the order that the actions were sent in to the host, so I don't actually know"

If we assume they're applied -in that order- then I would assume that A blocks B, therefore B's block on C fails, so C blocks D, which causes D's block on E to fail, so E blocks F.

B, D and F are roleblocked.

Not devonin 07-8-2019 01:52 AM

Re: TWG 187: Senpai [Game Thread]
 
For posing me that question and then leaving without telling me if I got it right or not, hard wolf read.

(Not an actual hard wolf read)

Time for bed. See you tomorrow everybody.

flashflash account 07-8-2019 02:03 AM

Re: TWG 187: Senpai [Game Thread]
 
Can't wait to find out the answer

I think we should have antori kill within a group of players determined by h&h

Failure to attempt to kill within those players sure we can lynch him

I'm willing to let him live because it is antori and I think antori is the kind of player who is willing to cooperate

I have not remotely been paying attention to wagons this game but from what I do recall from them plus other reads I have the following players in a wolf pile

Shadowgod, GS, Gradient, Daikyi, funnier, wayward?, svaz?

Last two are pretty tentative and not really good reads probably

Soundwave- 07-8-2019 02:04 AM

Re: TWG 187: Senpai [Game Thread]
 
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Originally Posted by Not devonin (Post 4684313)
B, D and F are roleblocked.

This is the only correct answer. Unless roleblocks also block various methods of performing two actions in one night, and those actions exist, there is no ambiguous scenario of roleblocks.

Hakulyte 07-8-2019 02:06 AM

Re: TWG 187: Senpai [Game Thread]
 
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Originally Posted by flashflash account (Post 4684320)
Can't wait to find out the answer

I think we should have antori kill within a group of players determined by h&h

Failure to attempt to kill within those players sure we can lynch him

I'm willing to let him live because it is antori and I think antori is the kind of player who is willing to cooperate

No.

the sun fan 07-8-2019 02:08 AM

Re: TWG 187: Senpai [Game Thread]
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Not devonin (Post 4684313)
I'm going to go with "My understanding is that the host would apply these in the order that the actions were sent in to the host, so I don't actually know"

If we assume they're applied -in that order- then I would assume that A blocks B, therefore B's block on C fails, so C blocks D, which causes D's block on E to fail, so E blocks F.

B, D and F are roleblocked.

lmao
you're right for the complete wrong reason

order that the host receives actions doesn't matter at all, but you go backwards and go from there
you even got the VT being roleblocked lmao

flashflash account 07-8-2019 02:17 AM

Re: TWG 187: Senpai [Game Thread]
 
My answer is that they apply however the host decides to apply them so long as the players are aware of how it interacts

Iirc mafiahost applies actions on players so all roleblocks would happen simultaneously

Some hosts do the irl timestamp thing too

Soundwave- 07-8-2019 02:18 AM

Re: TWG 187: Senpai [Game Thread]
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by flashflash account (Post 4684324)
Iirc mafiahost applies actions on players so all roleblocks would happen simultaneously

I know this is a thing, but this is dumb considering that the only time roleblocks can be a problem is when the game is setup poorly.

Hakulyte 07-8-2019 02:29 AM

Re: TWG 187: Senpai [Game Thread]
 
Dealing with jeopardy event ? Y/N ?

Soundwave- 07-8-2019 02:34 AM

Re: TWG 187: Senpai [Game Thread]
 
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Originally Posted by Hakulyte (Post 4684326)
Dealing with jeopardy event ? Y/N ?

I don't agree with giving Antori 9, only because Xiz might just punish us for being dumb and picking 9 again. Crossing our fingers and hoping one of the others just straight kills him is a better option, but an *even* better option might be just do nothing.

Hakulyte 07-8-2019 02:35 AM

Re: TWG 187: Senpai [Game Thread]
 
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Originally Posted by Soundwave- (Post 4684327)
for being dumb and picking 9 again.

Raeko picked 7 so, I'm lost on that.

Soundwave- 07-8-2019 02:43 AM

Re: TWG 187: Senpai [Game Thread]
 
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Originally Posted by Hakulyte (Post 4684328)
Raeko picked 7 so, I'm lost on that.

Oh shit. I didn't even notice that.

That makes 9 even more concerning.

Shadow_God_10 07-8-2019 04:58 AM

Re: TWG 187: Senpai [Game Thread]
 
I really really hope that this game and flipping #9 doesn't activate some bastard thing where Antori gets a 1-up and we have to lynch him twice.

Shadow_God_10 07-8-2019 05:01 AM

Re: TWG 187: Senpai [Game Thread]
 
I have a question here: if someone dies on the number of this game does it mean the end of the day phase or is it just the player dies and we all continue?


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