Originally Posted by Duskfall (Post 4730419)

I think you guys are being overly hard on mikey btw the play wasn't that bad and in any world where mikey was not roleblocked would've been amazing, he made a risky gamble on someone being wolf, backed himself and was correct on his read. If he is not roleblocked he forces through a difficult lynch on scum, because he was certain on a read and backed himself.

Having to resort to actions such as faking cop feels to me like it is more our fault as fellow town players for not finding mikey who had a correct read he was 100 percent on. We misread a 1v1 at the end of the day, he was the guy who caught scum he was 100 percent on and willing to gamble the game, had we listened to him then we lynch scum, but we didn't.

Mikey takes away a lesson on how to push correctly sure, because he did fuck the pooch a bit (though not nearly as bad as others think). But everyone else should take away a lesson on listening to what other players say. I do stand by what I said in game, albeit I was a bit more aggressive there. Mafia is a team game and someone else's read can be as effective or even moreso than your own. FFR is a good site sure, so listen to other good players around you and trust their skill, especially when they are more sure than you are on a read. Mafia is a team game after all.

Originally Posted by MixMasterLar (Post 4730404)

I'll let you know if I ever see one

Originally Posted by Duskfall (Post 4730419)

I think you guys are being overly hard on mikey btw the play wasn't that bad and in any world where mikey was not roleblocked would've been amazing, he made a risky gamble on someone being wolf, backed himself and was correct on his read. If he is not roleblocked he forces through a difficult lynch on scum, because he was certain on a read and backed himself.

Having to resort to actions such as faking cop feels to me like it is more our fault as fellow town players for not finding mikey who had a correct read he was 100 percent on. We misread a 1v1 at the end of the day, he was the guy who caught scum he was 100 percent on and willing to gamble the game, had we listened to him then we lynch scum, but we didn't.

Mikey takes away a lesson on how to push correctly sure, because he did fuck the pooch a bit (though not nearly as bad as others think). But everyone else should take away a lesson on listening to what other players say. I do stand by what I said in game, albeit I was a bit more aggressive there. Mafia is a team game and someone else's read can be as effective or even moreso than your own. FFR is a good site sure, so listen to other good players around you and trust their skill, especially when they are more sure than you are on a read. Mafia is a team game after all.

Originally Posted by MixMasterLar (Post 4730372)

No, thats bullshit

He read DBP scum for no reason other then feels scum and couldnt make a solid case that wasn't "I just feel it guys listen to me" and then instead of building worlds with partners or tackling different aspects of the game he fakeclaimed putting the remaining town PR at risk.

Thats not other people playing badly and you know it.