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[Accepted Files] (23) Xkur Top Secrut Preview!!!!!!! (MarioNintendo) - 20+ (5/5/5+/5) Snow (Silvuh) - 20 (5/5/5/5) The Crow's Newspaper (TC_Halogen) - 19 (4/5/5/5) to the Heaven -Driven Beat Remix- (kjwkjw) - 19 (5/5/4/5) Sigh (SKG_Scintill) - 18 (4/5/5/4) Thrash the Plank (T-Force & Niala) - 17 (5/5/2/5) {Lazy Summer Days} (Silvuh) - 19 (5/4/5/5) Chik Habit (AlexDest) - 18 (4/5/5/4) Above (Silvuh) - 19 (4/5/5/5) Ark (leonid) - 19 (4/5/5/5) A Quick Death (wc & CBR) - 18 (5/5/5/3) AcidAce-Alliance (leonid) - 18 (4/5/4/5) When the Petals Fall (Silvuh) - 20 (5/5/5/5) Spacedust (Silvuh) - 19 (4/5/5/5) Sexplosion (woker-x) - 18 (4/5/4/5) Through The Martian Hell (woker-x) - 17 (4/4/5/4) Everything Went Numb (who_cares973) - 18 (4/5/5/4) Electronic Music is a Joke (AlexDest) - 17++ (3/5+/4/5+) Positively Inclined RMX (DossarLX ODI) - 17 (5/3/4/5) Gene Gadget Zone (bmah & TC_Cyrenics) - 19 (5/4/5/5) Four Blockes Madness (woker-x) - 18 (4/5/5/4) honki sentai majirenjaa (bmah) - 17 (5/5/3/4) Mysterious Desert (cry4eternity) - 17 (4/4/5/4) [Borderline Files] (4) Famicom Selecta (D) - 12+N (4/4/4/N) Gotta Catch 'em All (SKG_Scintill) - 16 (5/4/2/5) Scavenger (Plan_Bsk81127) - 16+ (4/5/2/5+) Metro (DossarLX ODI) - 16 (5/5/1/5) For Judges: Let's vote for borderline files (Yes/Yes with fix/No). |
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Look out FFR! New stepartist :twisted: |
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Famicom Selecta: I already judged this
Mysterious Desert: see above :) Gotta Catch 'em All: yes with small fixes (some guitar not stepped accurately, mostly in 1st half of song; also, if you could somehow deviate from jumpstream and introduce it later via climax theory, that'd be nice too, but I don't mind it as is) Scavenger: no (PR is terribad - and this is a piano file too, so PR stands out a whole lot more) Metro: This one's hard to say. This song caters to people who are able to enjoy files of this difficulty, yet it's a legit stepchart. It's like I want to say yes w/fix and no at the same time. I won't give an official opinion on this one. |
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I know either dore or bmah said this before, but I think that the conditional queue grading number should be a little more lenient. One reason is there are only 4 songs to say yes/no to, and to be honest, what's a couple more songs going to do? Okay, they can get no's, it's not like it would be forcing the judges to say yes on the ones that got 15's. Also, as dore/bmah [I know it was one of you with a 4 letter name] said, subjectivity seemed to be pretty eminent in this review session and it wouldn't be fair to those that got 15's because of preference.
No, I'm not only saying this because my file got a 15. I had been thinking about it for a while, ever since [dore/bmah] had mentioned it before. And then I thought I had only a 14. I just think this thought got ignored and should be considered. |
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(I said that)
And you're probably right, since I doubt jx actually went over any specific song within only a few hours. The foremost important thing right now is to get an initial tallying of files that should definitely be accepted, so that's what jx was doing. I think if you want an appeal, now's the time to ask. |
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Personal preference can really screw over a file's rating. I've seen this happen way too many times (and no it's not just because of my Metro file although it is pretty funny that one rating screwed it over from a 17 haha). Some borderline files don't even have legit suggestions - I looked at a few from other files in this batch and was a bit disappointed. |
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And yea, I agree that the main focus should be to get the definite ones fully accounted for and then we can see what happens from there. |
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I posted this before when I was making some rules on resubmissions, but jx has yet to emphasize this part. Generally, this is how it goes:
1) Resubmissions should be labelled in the song folder. 2) If you have an issue with judging on a resubmit, you must let us know. 3) We will not consider complaints on judging with the point equivalent BELOW +.,+.,+?,+? 4) We will not look at any file if you do not let us know you have an issue. So basically, you can appeal if a file is 14/20 or higher. However, two grades must be at least [+.]. That's the only catch. |
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fixed. [Borderline Files] (4) Famicom Selecta (D) - 12+N (4/4/4/N) Gotta Catch 'em All (SKG_Scintill) - 16 (5/4/2/5) Scavenger (Plan_Bsk81127) - 16+ (4/5/2/5+) Metro (DossarLX ODI) - 16 (5/5/1/5) For Judges: Let's vote for borderline files (Yes/Yes with fix/No). ps should we expand the borderline zone? we already have decent percentage of accepted files. |
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And jx, it's mainly because of subjectivity. Plan got a [++] on his file but also got a [?] on Scavenger. Granted, I have not read the notes on the file, but it seems like there are some extremes in that. Also with Dossar's 3 [+]'s and 1 [-]. Maybe the notes should be read more in depth in choosing what could be considered conditional. |
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appeal for (you guessed it) White Walls!:
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TLDR version: Why I feel I should have gotten 17 points: I lost three points for the file being long. Why I feel that is not legitimate: I am going to have to break up the file anyway, which it will still be long, but more manageable to play for score, which was a large reason for losing points. For my other two files, I didn't really expect either of them to go through cuz they're kinda weird, but I'm glad half the judges enjoyed them at least :D |
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5/5/5/1 could be in accepted zone, I'll look at it anyway.
And borderline files aren't conditional queue'd, they are moved into second vote system. [Grades of potential borderline zone] (A) 16 (5/5/4/2) 16 (5/4/4/3) (B) 16 (5/5/3/3) 15 (5/5/4/1) 15 (5/4/4/2) (C) 15 (4/4/4/3) 14 (5/4/4/1) (D) 14 (4/4/4/2) 14 (5/4/3/2) 14 (4/4/3/3) |
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O.O Is this something completely new, jx? I've never heard of this one before.
4/4/3/3 would be what I was describing earlier as the minimum for an appeal (14/20). |
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ok fixed.
Grade C-D will hardly be considered, compared to files in higher grades though. |
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Not sure what my 5/4/3/3 would be considered as XD looks to be potentially a B.
Writing up my appeal now though based off of dore's. Will probably finish in the morning so I can actually look/listen and see some of the points that were made. |
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In that case, I'll just mention why Metro is a bit fishy:
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