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rushyrulz 11-27-2010 08:20 PM

Prime Numbers
 
This is just an interesting topic I've been thinking about recently.

In your opinion, do you think there are an infinite amount of prime numbers? Vote in the poll and share your opinion. I think this could make an interesting discussion :).

richyrich55 11-27-2010 08:21 PM

Re: Prime Numbers
 
Maybe.

Izzy 11-27-2010 08:22 PM

Re: Prime Numbers
 
There is an infinite amount of numbers. So there might as well be an infinite amount of prime numbers.

rushyrulz 11-27-2010 08:22 PM

Re: Prime Numbers
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Izzy (Post 3353151)
There is an infinite amount of numbers. So there might as well be an infinite amount of prime numbers.

But is there a limit to how high you can go without having divisibility? The higher you go, the lower the chance of a prime number occurring. If there's a rate that is becoming infinitely less and less, will it eventually equal 0, or will it just get really damn close and never touch?

That is the question.

I'm pretty torn myself. I voted yes, but I can see why you might say no.

Gah, brain is fried. 1 limit approaching both infinity and 0 at the same time! Paradox?

tangomango 11-27-2010 08:25 PM

Re: Prime Numbers
 
There's an infinite amount. Wikipedia article.

Mulie 11-27-2010 08:25 PM

Re: Prime Numbers
 
All even numbers are divisible by 2

krunkykai22 11-27-2010 08:28 PM

Re: Prime Numbers
 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prime_number


Different URL but just about the same from 2 posts above me

Izzy 11-27-2010 08:30 PM

Re: Prime Numbers
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by tangomango (Post 3353157)
There's an infinite amount. Wikipedia article.

Got to love proof by contradiction. That is my favorite.

rushyrulz 11-27-2010 08:30 PM

Re: Prime Numbers
 
Damn... it's still interesting to think about :P
btw

remedy1502 11-27-2010 08:33 PM

Re: Prime Numbers
 
Prime numbers are sexy. I had no idea until algebra this year that prime numbers have so many sweet properties.

iironiic 11-27-2010 08:34 PM

Re: Prime Numbers
 
Yes there's an infinite amount of prime numbers. My math professor proved it last semester lol.


Quote:

Originally Posted by remedy1502 (Post 3353177)
Prime numbers are sexy. I had no idea until algebra this year that prime numbers have so many sweet properties.

Lol I want sex. Which algebra class are you taking?

remedy1502 11-27-2010 08:38 PM

Re: Prime Numbers
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by iironiic (Post 3353181)
Yes there's an infinite amount of prime numbers. My math professor proved it last semester lol.




Lol I want sex. Which algebra class are you taking?

Umm, it's just called "Algebra I for Honours Mathematics". xD
I have linear algebra next term.

who_cares973 11-27-2010 08:39 PM

Re: Prime Numbers
 
this video is relevant to this thread

http://wimp.com/infiniteuniverse/

start at 4:10

iironiic 11-27-2010 08:41 PM

Re: Prime Numbers
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by remedy1502 (Post 3353194)
Umm, it's just called "Algebra I for Honours Mathematics". xD
I have linear algebra next term.

Lol xD It's like how my class I'm currently taking is called "Honors Math III" xD I'm excited to take Differential Equations and Number Theory next semester! Gonna study some sexy numbers ;) BOW CHIKA WOW WOW

remedy1502 11-27-2010 08:46 PM

Re: Prime Numbers
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by iironiic (Post 3353206)
Lol xD It's like how my class I'm currently taking is called "Honors Math III" xD I'm excited to take Differential Equations and Number Theory next semester! Gonna study some sexy numbers ;) BOW CHIKA WOW WOW

Sexy numbers are sweet. Linear Algebra I next term will be cool. And lol "Calculus I for Honours Mathematics" this term, next term I have "Calculus II for Honours Mathematics". They are very creative with course names.

aperson 11-27-2010 09:00 PM

Re: Prime Numbers
 
Are there infinitely many sets of prime numbers that are only 2 away from each other, i.e. 11 & 13?

aperson 11-27-2010 09:07 PM

Re: Prime Numbers
 
Why is it that all prime numbers that have a remainder of 1 when divided by 4 can be written as the sum of two squared integers, i.e. 13 = 2^2 + 3^2, but all prime numbers that have a remainder of 3 when divided by 4 can't?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proofs_...of_two_squares

Artic_counter 11-27-2010 09:12 PM

Re: Prime Numbers
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by iironiic (Post 3353206)
Lol xD It's like how my class I'm currently taking is called "Honors Math III" xD I'm excited to take Differential Equations and Number Theory next semester! Gonna study some sexy numbers ;) BOW CHIKA WOW WOW

Number theory is awesome. I finished reading this book and now I'm in love with numbers :D

http://shell.cas.usf.edu/~wclark/elem_num_th_book.pdf

I'm curently having a class called Linear Algebra and Vector Geometry and it's really fun so you're probably going to like Linear Algebra xD

BethanyBangs 11-27-2010 09:22 PM

Re: Prime Numbers
 
I think prime numbers have an infinite amount..man i don't remember this stuff anymore i took algebra 2 last year.

UnkownMan 11-27-2010 09:28 PM

Re: Prime Numbers
 
As long as the number system will have an infinite amount of numbers, there will be an infinite amount of prime numbers.

EDIT: *facepalm* Damn it Izzy.

aperson 11-27-2010 10:43 PM

Re: Prime Numbers
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by UnkownMan (Post 3353231)
As long as the number system will have an infinite amount of numbers, there will be an infinite amount of prime numbers.

EDIT: *facepalm* Damn it Izzy.

What about the set of numbers {2^0, 2^1, 2^2... } ? This set has infinitely many numbers and only one is prime.

UnkownMan 11-27-2010 10:47 PM

Re: Prime Numbers
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by aperson (Post 3353305)
What about the set of numbers {2^0, 2^1, 2^2... } ? This set has infinitely many numbers and only one is prime.

Don't ask me. I did terrible in math.

Izzy 11-27-2010 10:48 PM

Re: Prime Numbers
 
Infinite amount of "odd" numbers*

remedy1502 11-27-2010 11:10 PM

Re: Prime Numbers
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by aperson (Post 3353305)
What about the set of numbers {2^0, 2^1, 2^2... } ? This set has infinitely many numbers and only one is prime.

What about that set? The one prime number is 2 (2^1) since 1 isn't prime. =/

aperson 11-27-2010 11:14 PM

Re: Prime Numbers
 
It is a counterexample to UnknownMan's statement that any infinite collection of numbers has infinitely many primes.

awein999 11-27-2010 11:22 PM

Re: Prime Numbers
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rushyrulz (Post 3353152)
But is there a limit to how high you can go without having divisibility? The higher you go, the lower the chance of a prime number occurring. If there's a rate that is becoming infinitely less and less, will it eventually equal 0, or will it just get really damn close and never touch?

That is the question.

I'm pretty torn myself. I voted yes, but I can see why you might say no.

Gah, brain is fried. 1 limit approaching both infinity and 0 at the same time! Paradox?

Numbers never end therefore prime numbers never end. Divisibility becomes more and more spread out as numbers get bigger but it never "stops". This is similar to the half distance paradox: A man crosses a street but he always travels half the distance to the end of the street. He never gets to the end of the street but he travels for an infinitely long time.

who_cares973 11-27-2010 11:25 PM

Re: Prime Numbers
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by who_cares973 (Post 3353200)
this video is relevant to this thread

http://wimp.com/infiniteuniverse/

start at 4:10

Quote:

Originally Posted by awein999 (Post 3353326)
half distance paradox: A man crosses a street but he always travels half the distance to the end of the street. He never gets to the end of the street but he travels for an infinitely long time.

sup

awein999 11-27-2010 11:29 PM

Re: Prime Numbers
 
Haha spacerip just posted this video on youtube and is one of my subscriptions. Might have learned that exact example from there ;)

Netjet! 11-27-2010 11:52 PM

Re: Prime Numbers
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rushyrulz (Post 3353152)
But is there a limit to how high you can go without having divisibility? The higher you go, the lower the chance of a prime number occurring. If there's a rate that is becoming infinitely less and less, will it eventually equal 0, or will it just get really damn close and never touch?

Reminded me of this:


~kitty~ 11-28-2010 12:08 AM

Re: Prime Numbers
 
Using this knowledge of the patterns in numbers, people solve relatively complex problems in a short amount of time. A lot of people think they're just geniuses, doing a whole lot of things in their head... but the truth is that there's some sort of pattern, which either they previously know, or know in which to seek out, to solve the problem. That applies to math competitions, but I do not know about other things... I was just mentioning that because something like this relates to what you would see in a Math competition, really.

PrawnSkunk 11-28-2010 12:10 AM

Re: Prime Numbers
 
doing prime numbers in math atm ;)

iironiic 11-28-2010 12:14 AM

Re: Prime Numbers
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by remedy1502 (Post 3353209)
Sexy numbers are sweet. Linear Algebra I next term will be cool. And lol "Calculus I for Honours Mathematics" this term, next term I have "Calculus II for Honours Mathematics". They are very creative with course names.

Lol xD You'll love linear algebra! If you like to prove, you will definitely benefit and admire the class. You're currently taking Algebra so if you like algebra, linear algebra is fun :)

Quote:

Originally Posted by aperson (Post 3353215)
Are there infinitely many sets of prime numbers that are only 2 away from each other, i.e. 11 & 13?

I think this is one of the most striking areas of math in terms of research. They refer to this as "twin primes." Currently they are not sure how many "twin primes" exist, as far as I know.

Patashu 11-28-2010 12:35 AM

Re: Prime Numbers
 
there's a function that defines the density of primes around any number, and iirc it goes down linearly

remedy1502 11-28-2010 12:42 AM

Re: Prime Numbers
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by iironiic (Post 3353362)
Lol xD You'll love linear algebra! If you like to prove, you will definitely benefit and admire the class. You're currently taking Algebra so if you like algebra, linear algebra is fun :)

Algebra is my favourite class. I'm excited :D

dore 11-28-2010 01:16 AM

Re: Prime Numbers
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Izzy (Post 3353308)
Infinite amount of "odd" numbers*

[insert same set as aperson's but with 3 as the base]

:D


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