Re: TWG 193: Animal Crossing [Game Thread]
 

Heres some stuff

Town

- Boomer (very vigi)
- Eugene (I’ve already stated my case on Eugene earlier. Reads, reactions and emotions are very authentic and I think the arguably dumb observations they sometimes make are the result of over enthusiasm, typing before thinking. They play with no filter and I think that’s a very towny thing to do. I don’t think we should ever touch Eugene.)
- Cherry (Cherry is asking very good questions and noticing a lot of things that people are missing. They also don’t seem to be pocketing anyone which I really like. In particular, I like that they questioned Dora about the soft clear they did for everyone who was on the Zucker wagon before Del claimed. I’m still upset Dora never responded because I’m still struggling to read people like tank and flurry. I would be pretty surprised if Cherry was scum.)

Town Lean

- Tank (I’ve spent a lot of time reading Tank’s posts and it's frustrating because I sort of understand how he is getting from A to B mentally but the reasoning he gives is next to non-existent. I’m inclined to lean him town because even though he is much more big brain than I am, I do agree with a lot of the analysis he does that I understand.)
- Phil (I initially didn’t like the whole Roleblocker fiasco back in D1 but when I look at his overall play I really don’t see how his game is ever scum. He has been consistent in his reads, his progressions seem very natural, and he actually has an understanding of the game mechanics, which is more that I can say for a lot of people. For now, I see him as a benefit to town.)
- Maple (This is my biggest gut/tone read of my list of potential townys. I feel like their frustrations of not really being acknowledged are genuine, and I feel like they are doing their appropriate digging when they have their suspicions, even when I don’t necessarily agree with them. I think their suggestion of keeping the acq alive for a day is a very towny thing to suggest.)
- Julian (I still maintain that his play, especially at d0, has been especially towny. He opened up the conversation on a lot of people and quite frankly a lot of the interaction that’s been had would not have happened if it wasn’t for his play. It was aggressive but it worked, and I think town is better for it. Could a wolf have done it? Sure, I just don’t feel like his play came from a scum position. Only note I have was his weak read on me and tank. I still don’t understand why you have tank locked as a scum and based on your description of me, I really should have been in null, not locked town. Overall, I’m still leaning town on Julian though.)
- Flurry (I don’t really see what’s so wolfy about flurry. He is engaging conversation and keeping critical, and also staying quite active. I know theres the whole julian vs flurry thing but I just don’t see a world where Flurry is a lock wolf. Saying that, there is a lot of flurrys posts I just don't know how to read, and I'm not really sure why.)

Null

- Punchy (Punchy’s play has been very towny and good questions ARE being asked but I also feel like they’re not following through very hard with their questions and I feel like it could be the type of towny play a wolf could make. There’s nothing I’ve read that leans him scum though so I’d be very hesitant to touch him any time soon.)
- Agent S (Agent S was always going to be a null for me cause nothing has stood out from him at all to me. I had to do a full ISO to write this. Everything seems super towny from what I’ve read but I don’t like how under the radar he seems to be flying)

Wolf Lean

- Rolf (This is the gut read of my scum leans. Their questions don’t seem to go anywhere, and he seems disconnected from the actions of the thread whenever he comments. He just seems to be using a lot of words to not actually say much. Under the radar is what I’m sensing)
- Apollo (I was scum reading apollo early for similar reasons as Maple, his gameplay was pretty useless in helping town in any way. After Maple called him out on this, he has shifted into being a lot more active in questioning and commenting on the game, which I really like. I’m just curious whether this shift was due to him getting more involved to avoid suspicion, or if he just waited until he had observed more of the game before digging in.)
- Chrissy (Chrissys play has been extremely wishy washy and they haven’t pushed the game in any sort of direction. I get that they entered the game late and they’ve been playing catchup, but all the clarification she seems to be asking for is mostly related to night actions rather than the chatter of the day phases. Is this a newer player trying to keep up with the game? Possibly, but I think its also possible its a wolf coming into the game late and trying to stay separated from all the more intense conversations.)
- Chief (I think Dora’s read on Chief’s vote being opportunistic is a very good one, especially as it supports my read on Chief and Zuckers interactions early in d0. I know people say not to put so much leverage on early game interactions, but looking back on the conversation, it just seems like banter between partners. His decrease in activity levels can either be based on actually just not having as much time to play, but his style and tone make me feel like he just doesn’t care anymore. This is why he is in my leans, not my lock pile, because I feel like a wolf would care and a wolf would try and defend themselves in the situation Chief is currently in.)

Wolf

- Matthilda (I have been scum reading Matthilda from the very start and I just want to know what they flip as at this point. They’re not interested in helping the game so I feel like its low risk. Their reactions to accusations have been extremely defensive and just don’t feel genuine.)
- Molly (Molly was, for me, the most suspicious vote on Zucker during first phase. She has been the most inactive player in the game based on post count and half the posts she has made have been word spam trying to defend herself. If previous games are anything to go by, this type of play is very wolfy)

I am exhausted, I'll probably respond to stuff for 5-10 minutes then I'm going to sleep. Nightmare of a day.

Re: TWG 193: Animal Crossing [Game Thread]
 

Chief didn't really do much since I replaced in... and if Chief sees this yes I am pretty sure I ISOd you two times because I wanted to confirm a certain post you made about someone reading you Null and you admitting you didn't look very good.

The person who Null read you at the time of that post was me

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Also Fauna: The fact that you took the time to ISO Tank and didn't almost die from a stroke is astounding. Kudos to you

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This post is the one I'm talking about

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Also makes me wonder why Chief would self reflect on the way they posted D0 as opposed to letting other people read him based on his actions?

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preemptive defense from being paranoid of getting caught out what what?

feels very much like trying to have excuses at the ready for when they're under more scrutiny

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tank has much fewer posts than I remembered
I think this is probably a good look for him
(you can't make me iso him)

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This matches well with that massive wall post they made last phase as a means to catch up

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Top two lynches today for me would be Molly/Chief. I don't see either of them as part of a solution for a town win here

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don't bother. ive been bitten by it before and if i wanted to find the reason ahain, it wouldn't be too hard for me.

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god help me it's tank iso time what what

i wasn't originally planning on doing a big post with quotes but there's some things that are sticking out to me so here we goooooo

solid argument for not specifically going after the acqui, i don't think a wolf would point this out especially so early in the game

tank not wanting to lynch apollo is a recurring theme and i don't really understand it what what

he says apollo is towny and has 'big beak energy' but so far has not actually explained why apollo should be left alone and that seriously rubs me the wrong way

pressuring rolf here is a good look, and another mention about acqui hunting being inherently wolfy

pointing out it's basically d0 again minus a wolf is a very good observation. being against claim play is also solid

this is a good point re: chief saying someone null read him - if you're that worked up about it to the point you feel the need to proactively defend yourself wouldn't it make sense to remember who did it? i like this a lot

it took me several tries to parse this but i think i like it??? dora analysis on point, molly pressure also a good thing to see. still confused on the fauna bit but the rest of it looks good to me

for the love of god man please let us know why you keep townreading apollo. stop trying to get all up in that big beak

CONCLUSION - i highly dislike the weakass apollo read but i very much like everything else. town-ish is where i'm at for them right now

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still planning on doing more of these but dear god that was painful

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The me bit was me thinking acq Had claimed instead of vigi lol

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Cherry... I'm so sorry you had to put yourself through that agony. Reading Tank's posts is basically the same as if he posted in Wingdings font. No one understands what he's saying, and it's very mind breaking to understand

We ARE on the same page in the sense that we're town reading him though. I don't want to imagine a wolf posting like that but we had someone making pikachu noises for nearly a phase and a half in smash brothers who turned out to be the Godfather IIRC

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I also feel sorry that if you ISO me you've got over 250 posts to go through.

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Well good thing it didn't go through then.



So I know no one wants to hear excuses but over here we're getting a little bombarded with some things dealing with corona virus as well. I'm going to do my best to get in here but have to take care of some things for sure today.

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you're not that high up on my priority list but i'll absolutely dig through hundreds of posts if it comes to that what what

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I asked privately if roleblocks block aqui since people were unsure and never got an answer. But apparently the answer is no he doesn't get notified of being blocked since I was the one shot, unless it's just cause Xiz wasn't well.

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How the fuck are you still alive if you were shot?

1. Wolves roleblocked Boomer, and we've yet to get clarifications as to whether Boomer is notified that their shot was blocked
2. Doctor is playing 5 dimensional chess and saved you from the shot
3. You're our bulletproof wolf and your vest popped and can't acknowledge it because that would mean you're confirming you're against town

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which of these scenarios is more likely what what:

wolves rb'd del just in case doc didn't save n1

or

wolves rb'd boomer assuming that doc did save n1 and they would guarantee the del kill