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flashflash account 11-29-2018 05:52 PM

Re: Unpopular gaming opinions thread
 
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Originally Posted by PixlSM (Post 4658674)
I just find it weird that someone who can appreciate earthbound despite all its flaws would hate on undertale.

the things that overlap between the games are things that are in 90% of jrpgs regardless

riktoi 11-29-2018 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by gold stinger (Post 4658685)
The biggest ploy of my argument is grinding for essential equipment, party members, money, or just items in general in order to progress past a seemingly impassable barrier that blocks off a majority of the core game, is not a fun mechanic and can get highly repetitive and boring for even the most hardcore players. It can seem fun at first with the possible luck involved, and the rush of finally getting what you need. However, I find in my experience that everyone eventually topples and gives up in the end.

most korean MMOs specifically have a shitton of grinding because they can't supply content at a steady rate to keep players playing and looking out for new content. it's terrible, don't get me wrong, but if you truly do like the game it becomes a trivial point.

in singleplayer games however, there is an END to your game, so you shouldn't unreasonably pad game hours just to stall the player from reaching it. offer challenge, not mindless grinding to be able to finally advance.

ShAiOnEiX 11-29-2018 06:17 PM

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Originally Posted by riktoi (Post 4658704)
most korean MMOs specifically have a shitton of grinding because they can't supply content at a steady rate to keep players playing and looking out for new content. it's terrible, don't get me wrong, but if you truly do like the game it becomes a trivial point.

in singleplayer games however, there is an END to your game, so you shouldn't unreasonably pad game hours just to stall the player from reaching it. offer challenge, not mindless grinding to be able to finally advance.

Unless you're playing a traditional turn based JRPG like dragonquest then most of the game is all about the grind and difficulty. Games like DQ push you to grind and not just skip that content and coincidentally is found enjoyable by a big playerbase. Grind is good and can be fun as long as it's done in a balanced manner.

Dinglesberry 11-29-2018 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by PixlSM (Post 4658674)
I just find it weird that someone who can appreciate earthbound despite all its flaws would hate on undertale.

Earthbound is on another level, as arguably bad as the game is, u need to appreciate it for being one of the first rpgs in a unique, non magical fantasy setting, and for how ambitious it was

Alot of things in it are amazing concepts, like scrolling hp for example

flashflash account 11-29-2018 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Dinglesberry (Post 4658729)
unique, non magical fantasy setting

I think this is part of the reason I like it so much. Sci-fi in RPGs is really underdone comparatively- it's always some kind of fantasy, whether it be eastern, western, or final

PixlSM 11-29-2018 07:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Dinglesberry (Post 4658729)
Earthbound is on another level, as arguably bad as the game is, u need to appreciate it for being one of the first rpgs in a unique, non magical fantasy setting, and for how ambitious it was

Alot of things in it are amazing concepts, like scrolling hp for example

im well aware of how good earthbound is, but its definitely flawed

flashflash account 11-29-2018 07:19 PM

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I would say it can be confusing at times (especially when the runaway 5 is involved) if you don't know exactly what to do, and the part where poo has to finish his training is absolutely brutal
but outside of that I dunno if I can think of anything that would make it as bad as undertale

Spenner 11-29-2018 08:19 PM

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My experience playing it the first time was really positive, despite the challenge and confusion at times. It felt all that much more rewarding to get through things.

Dinglesberry 11-29-2018 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by PixlSM (Post 4658734)
im well aware of how good earthbound is, but its definitely flawed

I'd agree that it's overhyped and that the cult following isn't really justified.. Not sure why it happened, I think the fact that Nintendo released it and advertised the hell out of it to little success contributes to that tho

Like a game with great success never gets a cult following, it's largely due to it being "underrated"

Also I know it's irrelevant to the game itself but earthbound soundtrack is veryyyy good, the music inspired many artists tbh, I'm a big fan of starship amazing

https://youtu.be/6GensEv1l-4

Ok u got me, I'm an earthbound fanboi

flashflash account 11-29-2018 10:05 PM

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sorry but that song is trash
I only listened to like 20 seconds

DaBackpack 11-29-2018 10:08 PM

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Originally Posted by flashflash account (Post 4658787)
sorry but that song is trash
I only listened to like 20 seconds

this guy

PixlSM 11-29-2018 10:10 PM

Re: Unpopular gaming opinions thread
 
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Originally Posted by Dinglesberry (Post 4658775)
I'd agree that it's overhyped and that the cult following isn't really justified.. Not sure why it happened, I think the fact that Nintendo released it and advertised the hell out of it to little success contributes to that tho

Like a game with great success never gets a cult following, it's largely due to it being "underrated"

Also I know it's irrelevant to the game itself but earthbound soundtrack is veryyyy good, the music inspired many artists tbh, I'm a big fan of starship amazing

https://youtu.be/6GensEv1l-4

Ok u got me, I'm an earthbound fanboi

i never said it was overrated or the cult following isnt justified
I think its an amazing game , but it has its flaws, mostly rooted in sticking to conventional and outdated mechanics of older rpgs despite breaking away from other tropes and aspects of them. (especially the menuing. the menuing is fucking awful in mother 1 and 2)

also i agree that song is trash

flashflash account 11-29-2018 10:15 PM

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I get what you mean
Having to switch items around between players can get irritating even though it's logical that Jeff can't use a bottle rocket that Paula is holding
And limited inventory space is of course just a system limitation

PixlSM 11-29-2018 10:20 PM

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Originally Posted by flashflash account (Post 4658790)
I get what you mean
Having to switch items around between players can get irritating even though it's logical that Jeff can't use a bottle rocket that Paula is holding
And limited inventory space is of course just a system limitation

I also remember not being able to buy multiple of the same item at a time, but that may have just been mother 1. its been a while since I've played it

flashflash account 11-29-2018 10:22 PM

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I don't recall an instance where I wanted to buy more than one item at the same time

Gradiant 11-29-2018 10:32 PM

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Tidus has a great laugh

dAnceguy117 11-29-2018 10:46 PM

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Originally Posted by DaBackpack (Post 4658788)
this guy

hey ur not allowed to say anything when you gonna tell me 95% of video game music is trash :mad::mad:

PixlSM 11-29-2018 10:49 PM

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Originally Posted by dAnceguy117 (Post 4658799)
hey ur not allowed to say anything when you gonna tell me 95% of video game music is trash :mad::mad:

yeah it should be a higher %

flashflash account 11-29-2018 11:33 PM

Re: Unpopular gaming opinions thread
 
Night in the woods is a fantastic game with one of the worst endings of all time
Hanging out with socialists and criminals wasn't great either but the rest is A+

QueenAshy 11-30-2018 12:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Gradiant (Post 4658795)
Tidus has a great laugh

I agree


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