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xXOpkillerXx 06-10-2017 04:20 PM

Re: jTWG LXXXI I Got Nothin' Game Thread
 
That time off the thread was super productive phew~

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hakulyte (Post 4560469)
Nah, I'm just fighting myself with what I should be seeing and what I want to see.

Can't blame you for having to make the hero call.

Hakulyte 06-10-2017 05:31 PM

Re: jTWG LXXXI I Got Nothin' Game Thread
 
Change of plan for me. I'm going to see friends irl and I won't be back before another bunch of hours etc. So, rip for now.

sanzath 06-10-2017 05:34 PM

Re: jTWG LXXXI I Got Nothin' Game Thread
 
rip

well actually not rip I guess

inb4 you just don't come back and let KitB take care of it

Hakulyte 06-11-2017 05:17 AM

Re: jTWG LXXXI I Got Nothin' Game Thread
 
Final questions for both of you from rereading thread (again).

@xXOpkillerXx
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Originally Posted by xXOpkillerXx (Post 4558874)
Quick post cuz im on data:

If sven doesnt mind lynching Sanz, im down cuz he's #2 on my list im just not lynching Rapta cuz then idk how to solve next day.

Quote:

Originally Posted by xXOpkillerXx (Post 4559259)
Rapta

Hopefully I don't have to explain once again why I'm following this decision.

Quote:

Originally Posted by xXOpkillerXx (Post 4559537)
Tiloco I'm not insta'ing you cuz I think it'd be very stupid, I dont think Rapta played wolf, and I dont assume anything about your play cuz it's your first round in the game.

That being said, rip all your votes.

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Originally Posted by xXOpkillerXx (Post 4559551)
Tiloco

LOL. [color=white]"sven am I doing this right ??"[/color]

Tfw I get lynched next day cuz you guys are as confused as I am gg y'all lets see if sanz was right first.

Explain your progression on tiloco that led to insta.

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Originally Posted by xXOpkillerXx (Post 4559397)
However my vote is stuck on Tiloco because I'm not trusted enough to lead on anyone right now. Sanz was my #2 pick, and he seems totally set in stone with Tiloco lynch. That being said, Sanz is H&H's least wolf and that voids my slightest chance to possibly lynch Sanz with you, unless Tiloco would agree with the Deep wolfing profile that Sanz fits so well at this point.

If you're town and believe Sanz is more wolf than Tiloco, you'll need to help clear me somehow.

Is trust affecting your voting pattern?

Did the H&H scenario made you vote that way or you didn't want tiloco to keep posting ?

Reference:
Quote:

Originally Posted by xXOpkillerXx (Post 4558991)
Hmm, personally I'd rather have the replacement not be able to say one thing this day, and make it easier for him to slip on the last day.

I just have a hard time processing what you gained from that insta and it feels like a misplay as both alignments.

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@Sanzath
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Originally Posted by sanzath (Post 4559543)
also I at least know Haku irl and I have a hunch that a wolf Haku would keep his composure. In this context, a VT Haku who's frustrated by the gamestate makes sense to me.

Can you develop on that read ? I never rolled wolf once during Anime North and I'm pretty sure it's our only instance together.

sanzath 06-11-2017 11:08 AM

Re: jTWG LXXXI I Got Nothin' Game Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hakulyte (Post 4560722)
@Sanzath

Can you develop on that read ? I never rolled wolf once during Anime North and I'm pretty sure it's our only instance together.

lmao I don't even remember how either you or Op played during AN, that's not what was basing my reads off for most of game when it came to Team QC players.

My thought process was something like this: in the entire time I've known you, I can't remember a single instance of you getting particularly mad about anything, even though Team QC has done some stupid shit. I think it's because maybe you do get mad but it never really shows on that neutral face of yours. So you obviously know how to keep your composure in bad situations. I figured that if you were a wolf, you'd have taken advantage of that and played it calm to look good. Whereas if you were a VT, the game looked like a mess to you and you just went mad in a way you don't normally allow yourself to irl, if that makes sense?

But I changed my mind about it when I realized that irl attitude can't 100% account for actions in a game that I've never even seen you play before (or that I have no recollection of anyway) and also mostly for reasons I explained at start of D3

and then I flipped around again when you came in and didn't insta one of us woops

xXOpkillerXx 06-11-2017 11:54 AM

Re: jTWG LXXXI I Got Nothin' Game Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hakulyte (Post 4560722)
@xXOpkillerXx

Explain your progression on tiloco that led to insta.
I fucked up and forgot it could end up in a tie and randomize.

Is trust affecting your voting pattern?
It is. Should it not be ?

Did the H&H scenario made you vote that way or you didn't want tiloco to keep posting
To be totally honest, I was getting impatient and thought that we all had so much stuff against everybody that having Tiloco try to process the whole thread just to be lynched (remember I thought it was inevitable) was a big waste and a chance to get even more confusion.

I just have a hard time processing what you gained from that insta and it feels like a misplay as both alignments.
I know, didn't account for KitB.

See answers in quote

xXOpkillerXx 06-11-2017 11:56 AM

Re: jTWG LXXXI I Got Nothin' Game Thread
 
Yo just realized, come on Haku there's no way Sanz would play that much in the background if he was Town.

sanzath 06-11-2017 01:31 PM

Re: jTWG LXXXI I Got Nothin' Game Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by xXOpkillerXx (Post 4560741)
Yo just realized, come on Haku there's no way Sanz would play that much in the background if he was Town.

Wow if you're going to make false accusations, you should probably be a little more precise than that.

During which part of the game? Only parts I can think of were D0 and part of D1 and I've already explained that
Why would me playing in the background make me not town anyway? Or are you just pretending that your claim makes sense on its own?

Hakulyte 06-11-2017 01:54 PM

Re: jTWG LXXXI I Got Nothin' Game Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by xXOpkillerXx (Post 4560148)
Well hi.

Sanz was set on Rapta kill and that failed, therefore I'm voting Sanz cuz at least if that fails I wont have ruined it all by myself.

Sanz/H&H you didnt wanna vote Haku when I said he was my #1 pick, well that's what you get.

Haku good job the self-vote was on point if you're wolf.

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Originally Posted by xXOpkillerXx (Post 4560149)
Sanzath

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Originally Posted by xXOpkillerXx (Post 4560153)
From my POV right now it's either Haku who I thought was with Andy buy risked being insta'd by H&H which is his winning move if wolf VS Sanz who took his time to try and read everybody in the dark and bussed andy, maybe thinking it wouldnt reach insta. Also again you spent probably 10x more time trying to find slips from ppl but you voted Tiloco who was accusing Haku. So now you're either a shit town (no offence, applies to me if you're wolf) or a great wolf.

Good luck everyone I expected I'd be lynched already.
Haku no matter your role, insta sanz and you win. I know I rely once more on saying I'm town but if you're wolf, I fucked up ggwp, if you're town, we win.

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Originally Posted by xXOpkillerXx (Post 4560156)
Btw Haku if you're wolf you'll have to vote Sanz before I unvote him. This is the only tiny chance I have at sniping you if you're wolf.

:)

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Originally Posted by sanzath (Post 4560753)
Wow if you're going to make false accusations, you should probably be a little more precise than that.

During which part of the game? Only parts I can think of were D0 and part of D1 and I've already explained that
Why would me playing in the background make me not town anyway? Or are you just pretending that your claim makes sense on its own?

Sanzath, is this some quality organic spicy lies invented by Op or that'd be sick ?

sanzath 06-11-2017 02:03 PM

Re: jTWG LXXXI I Got Nothin' Game Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hakulyte (Post 4560756)
Sanzath, is this some quality organic spicy lies invented by Op or that'd be sick ?

Not sure what your question is? I mean ofc it's lies from my pov and it looks like he's throwing shade on me to avoid being voted by you or something

Hakulyte 06-11-2017 02:11 PM

Re: jTWG LXXXI I Got Nothin' Game Thread
 
I think he's town and that you're the last wolf even if mechanically speaking pretty much everyone else screamed "if it's not Haku, it's xXOpkillerXx".

sanzath 06-11-2017 02:13 PM

Re: jTWG LXXXI I Got Nothin' Game Thread
 
You're free to think that, I guess it just proves your earlier statement that you're bad at F3 though

xXOpkillerXx 06-11-2017 02:15 PM

Re: jTWG LXXXI I Got Nothin' Game Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hakulyte (Post 4560758)
I think he's town and that you're the last wolf even if mechanically speaking pretty much everyone else screamed "if it's not Haku, it's xXOpkillerXx".

You the MVP

Hakulyte 06-11-2017 02:17 PM

Re: jTWG LXXXI I Got Nothin' Game Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by xXOpkillerXx (Post 4560761)
You the MVP

That'd be sick.

xXOpkillerXx 06-11-2017 02:18 PM

Re: jTWG LXXXI I Got Nothin' Game Thread
 
Also with all that posting I kinda fucked myself up even if we win cuz next games if I get Wolf there's no way I'm able to mimic the way I played this game LOL rip

sanzath 06-11-2017 02:20 PM

Re: jTWG LXXXI I Got Nothin' Game Thread
 
I guess if I was in your place I'd feel better if I voted me, caught the deep wolf and proved everyone wrong, than if I voted Opk, caught the obvious wolf and just went "oh no big surprise here"

xXOpkillerXx 06-11-2017 02:23 PM

Re: jTWG LXXXI I Got Nothin' Game Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by sanzath (Post 4560764)
I guess if I was in your place I'd feel better if I voted me, caught the deep wolf and proved everyone wrong, than if I voted Opk, caught the obvious wolf and just went "oh no big surprise here"

The hero call must not be easy for him tho ._.

You're also in the same situation as I am; next games you'll have to mix your game up cuz that was like so damn mechanical. I bet if we both took some style off each other, we'd be sick players haha

sanzath 06-11-2017 02:25 PM

Re: jTWG LXXXI I Got Nothin' Game Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by xXOpkillerXx (Post 4560765)
The hero call must not be easy for him tho ._.

You're also in the same situation as I am; next games you'll have to mix your game up cuz that was like so damn mechanical. I bet if we both took some style off each other, we'd be sick players haha

tru tru

I'm sure our playstyles will naturally evolve overtime anyway

xXOpkillerXx 06-11-2017 02:26 PM

Re: jTWG LXXXI I Got Nothin' Game Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by sanzath (Post 4560766)
tru tru

I'm sure our playstyles will naturally evolve overtime anyway

Hopefully I have the patience for it -w- I can kinda understand Rapta's quits

Hakulyte 06-11-2017 02:29 PM

Re: jTWG LXXXI I Got Nothin' Game Thread
 
If I play by tone, I'd town read Op.
If I play mechanically, I'd town read sanzath.

When I go by tone for sanzath, the game feels so robotic that I think it's a wolf.
When I go mechanically for Op, the reasons behind the votes feels off so I think it's a wolf.

When I try to town read someone, I'm trying to find explanations as to why a certain player played a certain way.

Op seems to have a more normal progression on that, but that doesn't necessary clears him.
Sanzath simply have less to get critical about because he spent the majority of the game avoiding any problems until I tried to pressure him.

The average player go by mechanical play > tone reads.

The average player would probably vote xXOpkillerXx.
I tend to favorize tone and want to vote Sanzath.

I'm usually wrong in F3.

That's probably why.


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