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inDheart 05-7-2019 07:28 PM

Re: TWG CLXXXV: C9+++++++++ Game Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mellon_collie (Post 4673738)
FFA

Quote:

Originally Posted by roundbox (Post 4673742)
ffa

here we go again

Quote:

Originally Posted by mellon_collie (Post 4673747)
aaaaaaaa shit

what is this btw

inDheart 05-7-2019 07:28 PM

Re: TWG CLXXXV: C9+++++++++ Game Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by roundbox (Post 4673804)
Was supposed to be you
Thanks autocorrect

i meant the assumption the godfather is peeked but sure

MixMasterLar 05-7-2019 07:29 PM

Re: TWG CLXXXV: C9+++++++++ Game Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by inDheart (Post 4673801)
curious third member you got there

If Gradiant is wolf he is the Godfather because I have a green check on him

I don't think it's worth worrying about right now

Gradiant 05-7-2019 07:31 PM

Re: TWG CLXXXV: C9+++++++++ Game Thread
 
think it's pretty dumb to be so mad at people when your claim was in the last 2 minutes btw. 2 minutes is practically no time for reaction or rereading. for the record, I was expecting any claim at that point to be from ffa, it's why I had indheart as null, thinking that ffa had him as a red check while not giving enough of a shit to actually play and make a case.

MixMasterLar 05-7-2019 07:31 PM

Re: TWG CLXXXV: C9+++++++++ Game Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by roundbox (Post 4673802)
Lar, I also have no idea who the fuck Tekken characters are
It took me some time to figure out what the hell you were talking about and the cognitive dissonance broke my brain once I searched more

In a sense, you claimed when you acknowledged the post, not when you actually claimed cop
I know an experienced wolf team could interpret our exchange for what it was: you highlighting your soft for all to see

I mean I didnt want to point it out but hey look who was making me

If it was basically a claim (in a sense) you should have just unvoted?

Also if it was basically a claim (in a sense) then you shouldn't even need to check it before unvoting, as softs are more just breadcrumps for counterclaims. If it was obvious by me mentioning it you should have taken it as obvious and unvoted

MixMasterLar 05-7-2019 07:32 PM

Re: TWG CLXXXV: C9+++++++++ Game Thread
 
So basically Roundbox your retort makes you look all the more bad LMAO

MixMasterLar 05-7-2019 07:33 PM

Re: TWG CLXXXV: C9+++++++++ Game Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Gradiant (Post 4673808)
think it's pretty dumb to be so mad at people when your claim was in the last 2 minutes btw. 2 minutes is practically no time for reaction or rereading. for the record, I was expecting any claim at that point to be from ffa, it's why I had indheart as null, thinking that ffa had him as a red check while not giving enough of a shit to actually play and make a case.

Go reread that EoD and see what's said when and tell me if you still feel this way

inDheart 05-7-2019 07:33 PM

Re: TWG CLXXXV: C9+++++++++ Game Thread
 
so i am a fool because i got outplayed

one thing i wanted to come in and say was that roundbox's consideration of mml as a role cop can't possibly be a real thought because we'd have full time for him to be self-resolving

but, as the nightkill showed, we may not actually because of godfather possibility and all wolves have to do is let a clear into f7

the double take still looks pretty bad to me

MixMasterLar 05-7-2019 07:35 PM

Re: TWG CLXXXV: C9+++++++++ Game Thread
 
I'm actually kind of blueballed rn because I spent the entire nightphase thinking that was InD's vote on me and I didn't bother rereading because I assumed I would die in the night.

So a good half of my scumreads is made from info that is completely false

MixMasterLar 05-7-2019 07:36 PM

Re: TWG CLXXXV: C9+++++++++ Game Thread
 
Oh well too be fair, this was posted before Raeko's vote so I guess I was already predisposed to thinking that InD was voting me.

Still makes me wrong so, my apologies InD

We still lynch Roundbox

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Originally Posted by inDheart (Post 4673724)
btw the 2 i prob vote mml and believe in my earlier post and i think i need to learn to ignore paranoia brain sometines


MixMasterLar 05-7-2019 07:39 PM

Re: TWG CLXXXV: C9+++++++++ Game Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by inDheart (Post 4673812)
one thing i wanted to come in and say was that roundbox's consideration of mml as a role cop can't possibly be a real thought because we'd have full time for him to be self-resolving

Yeah, if he actually considered it from his read of me he wouldn't have been voting there ever

Also note the tone change from anger to "i'm just bad, guys" style pleading at the end. If somehow he had gotten that far in that horrible EoD play and was town he would probably just be pissed or sad from it and stay inconsistent. It screams fake

inDheart 05-7-2019 07:40 PM

Re: TWG CLXXXV: C9+++++++++ Game Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MixMasterLar (Post 4673814)
Oh well too be fair, this was posted before Raeko's vote so I guess I was already predisposed to thinking that InD was voting me.

Still makes me wrong so, my apologies InD

We still lynch Roundbox

yea, sorry about that. not like i'm happy where i ended up either because i think i contributed to making ffa viable

i beat myself up pretty bad for that one overNight because i had reasons for him being town down and just wound up ignoring them

though, IOU work because, separately from the claim situation, i don't know who i'd have chosen to lynch otherwise

Gradiant 05-7-2019 07:40 PM

Re: TWG CLXXXV: C9+++++++++ Game Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MixMasterLar (Post 4673811)
Go reread that EoD and see what's said when and tell me if you still feel this way

i don't see roundbox specifically forcing you to hardclaim. it'd be like if ffa had hardclaimed and he was mad at everybody that was voting him. It's also reasonable for people to ask you about your check with that claim (in the case of indheart)
tbh, I saw the video was tekken with people fighting and i closed out of it before the handcuffs

MixMasterLar 05-7-2019 07:42 PM

Re: TWG CLXXXV: C9+++++++++ Game Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by inDheart (Post 4673812)
but, as the nightkill showed, we may not actually because of godfather possibility and all wolves have to do is let a clear into f7

Going back to this for a moment


It is a little weird that I have a green check on Gradiant

and

Wolves let me live

and

Roundbox preemptively mention that it will be bullshit when someone pairs him up with Gradiant when nobody was ever considering that world

But hey that could be a wolf trying to call my check in doubt and I would think Roundbox is good enough to try that sooooooooooo yeah, This is WIFOM

Gradiant 05-7-2019 07:43 PM

Re: TWG CLXXXV: C9+++++++++ Game Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by inDheart (Post 4673805)
what is this btw

that made me think about my thoughts on rb/mellon again actually, with my pov being that between the two of them, I'd vote mellon first. people would switch votes off of someone saying they're a cop, but mellon's reaction after the fact is bad.

roundbox 05-7-2019 07:45 PM

Re: TWG CLXXXV: C9+++++++++ Game Thread
 
I had no idea what the post meant in the first place
I had to mentally process that it WAS a soft in the first place

I did a shitty job at EOD, but I AM TOWN.

the reason why I was like "is this guy role cop" was because I still had in my head that he was the scummiest player in the game and cognitive dissonance told me that he must still be scum (because oh no, my poor brain being wrong!)

remember when I made that post about "hey, I don't actually have other major scum reads and that's a problem"
knowing that in my mind, and wanting to find only evidence that proved my worldview (LAR = SCUM), I considered the fact he might be fake softing an actual cop while being the role cop (this is dumb logic, but my brain thought it. welcome to tinfoil land)
for whatever reason, my brain remembered lar's hypo check being on Hakulyte, which I was like "waaaaaaaaait a second, didn't he say haku was easy to solve on d0 and then move on?" and "why did he check Haku if he said this LMAO"
of course, I wanted to find your post as proof, and when I found that it was on gradiant, I let the case collapse in my brain because it couldn't be true anymore

I swapped my vote on to FFA because the other alternative was me, and we can't be having that

roundbox 05-7-2019 07:46 PM

Re: TWG CLXXXV: C9+++++++++ Game Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Gradiant (Post 4673820)
that made me think about my thoughts on rb/mellon again actually, with my pov being that between the two of them, I'd vote mellon first. people would switch votes off of someone saying they're a cop, but mellon's reaction after the fact is bad.

I am not opposed to voting raeko this phase

MixMasterLar 05-7-2019 07:48 PM

Re: TWG CLXXXV: C9+++++++++ Game Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Gradiant (Post 4673817)
i don't see roundbox specifically forcing you to hardclaim.

Keeping a vote on someone who soft (Or by his admission this phase, basically hardclaimed in a sense or whatever) is absolutely forcing a hardclaim, and if you read the progression of his votes he is playing the timer there.



Quote:

Originally Posted by Gradiant (Post 4673817)
tbh, I saw the video was tekken with people fighting and i closed out of it before the handcuffs

I specifically made the post in a time and manner where I expected people to ignore it at first, it is a soft after all.

But the video and the invisible text should spell it out, and since the tone is so out of whack from what I was posting at the time (I feel good about this game?) I expected anyone who was diligently rereading my ISO to find it and look at it closer, probably in a quote.

Wolves do not reread ISOs to actually do detective work so the way I hoped it would go is that any town going back would see it, any wolf wouldn't give a shit.

MixMasterLar 05-7-2019 07:48 PM

Re: TWG CLXXXV: C9+++++++++ Game Thread
 
But yeah, obviously the post isn't that obvious it's a soft

roundbox 05-7-2019 07:49 PM

Re: TWG CLXXXV: C9+++++++++ Game Thread
 
I gave the gradiant posit because he called your check into question (being safe)

I'm not calling your check into question. I'm not pursuing a world in which you are not a cop, lar


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