Re: jTWG LXXXI I Got Nothin' Game Thread
 

:thinking:

Maybe you're just baiting me, but if you actually missed it, here's a pretty opinionated post + followup I made
#824
#832

I mean it isn't my fault if both yourself and Op decided to go and ignore this stuff.

Re: jTWG LXXXI I Got Nothin' Game Thread
 

Tiloco is the most scary to me and I figured that if I'm right about him being wolf, then I don't really need to make these tough reads on you and Op. If he's a miss, well, I've got nothing substantial on either of you. I could go by gut feeling, but actually my plan is to spend nightphase rereading the thread with you as wolf, and then again with Op as wolf. If I do it before nightphase, it ends up being a lot of wasted effort if he's a hit.

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Sanz: deep wolfing or great town
Haku: slips this phase you can look up my posts where I say "fucking" or "fck" or "fcking" you'll find them. Long time self-vote in very bad spot (H&H had his vote still) so now more town than Sanz.
Rapta: lazytown

Re: jTWG LXXXI I Got Nothin' Game Thread
 

- Haku pushing against Hatred then flipping to Andy and staying there

Just putting the full picture here ty

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I guess this isn't a formal read list, I split by actions rather than by people, but I hope this is good enough for you to see where my head's at? Basically if you're not the wolf, I'm really fuzzy between Op and Haku.

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Sanzath can I get a reads list from you?

Also for the record I disagree with haku's playstyle quite a bit. I'll talk about it more in post game and I don't think haku is bad for playing like he does but I want you guys to know that there is more than one way to play this game well. It won't take long for you to find yours. Best advice I can give is you should play in a normal twg when you feel ready and find a player who's playstyle you really like and learn from them. Once you find how you want to play the game you'll like it a lot more

Re: jTWG LXXXI I Got Nothin' Game Thread
 

So I like that you have a lot of analysis there and it definitely helps. Can you wrap it up with quick reads on everyone? Like just saying town null or mafia. Also I'd like to know if you think my slot is mafia or if you just want to kill me to clear the air.

To the general public: are there any opinions of me specifically? You have all given reads on me based on rapta and I understand that I've only been around a few hours but I've provided enough substance for some opinions to start to form. Honestly I've probably already done more than rapta

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Also you ninjad me with the reads list. You can ignore that part of post 926

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I'm not going to get through the rest of the thread before eod btw. I really thought I could but reading while in the car has been a pain in the ass I'll finish during the nightphase if I don't just die here.

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Also how do I search for a specific word? Didn't know that was a thing

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Actually, normally there's more to it in games, but since mass claim happened, the entire game is pmuch set in stone mechnically speaking and it's pretty much cross your fingers and pray the majority hit the last wolf somehow.

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Search function gives me a database error actually in TWG forums.

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Can you give me a general area to look for the slip thing opk was talking about then?

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722 to 735 approx.

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Re your slot, it's some of both. Since I don't want to touch D0 (too much potential for new players just being bad), the only big thing I can actually get off of Rapta has him as wolf, and since there's basically nothing else to go on, I feel like killing you is the only way I can get an actual answer on what you are. Also, you're an experience player - if you did happen to fall into the wolf slot and make it to F3, I think that's the most likely scenario that wolves win.

Anyway,
Tiloco (mostly because of Rapta) - wolf
Op - null, leaning wolf
Haku - null, leaning town

I'll reread your posts without my Rapta=Wolf bias before answering this

Re: jTWG LXXXI I Got Nothin' Game Thread
 

So I read a little farther than I expected to from the slip thing but it was very informative. I think there's a pretty decent chance that haku is just openly wolfing.

First off the self vote is not alignment indicative. Assuming haku is town no mafia is going to want to insta him there because it would throw a lot of pressure on them. If haku is mafia he can self vote without fear of being instad because nobody wants to finish it especially considering day 0.

Him saying that telling andy to make the reads list that got him killed should buy haku town points but that's not even close to true. If this wasn't jtwg I would definitely consider that coaching. It still kind of is but there is a chance he could do it as town. I don't think he would bring it up as a defense as town though because he knows that it's not actually helpful. That one really rubbed me the wrong way.

Now the openly wolfing part comes from how he is straight up saying he is playing anti-town and using it as a defense. He seems to be trying to set up as many "why would I do this as mafia? " situations as possible. He said something along the lines of "mafia are the only ones that need to filter themselves" but most of his town play is centered around censoring himself.


I am a lot more confident in the mafia being between haku and opk but I don't know which one yet. Going to be difficult to figure it out too. I would just say that it's haku and be done with it but if I'm being honest most of my "aha" moments have ended up being wrong.

It's also worth mentioning that I think haku is really easy to tone read when he let's loose but not only did I not see that tone I found reasons to believe he was mafia. This point could pretty easily be confirmation bias though.

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I don't think I got those thoughts out clearly enough. Basically I think haku is mafia because he is trying too hard to prove that he is not.

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While at the same time saying that town don't need to be solving their own slot

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I guess you saying that kinda dig your grave for F3.

So, last wolf is probably in Sanz/Op.

ty for info.

Re: jTWG LXXXI I Got Nothin' Game Thread
 

So far you're reading the thread and gathering the information you think you need to solve the game, which is good, but I can't say I'd expect you to do anything else regardless of your alignment.

I do like your playstyle, though, but again, I've got nothing on you. Even a slip wouldn't be a slip because you could pull the "I'm still catching up on the thread" card.

How much of the thread have you read so far?