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And what are you suggesting happens AFTER, if this happens? Somebody is pregnant, wants an abortion. You say "So how about instead of the abortion, we take the zygote/fetus out of you...grow it in a lab and then......" do what? What are you planning on doing if that fetus then develops to the point where it becomes a real live human being? Give it up for adoption? Have the parents have to take it back? Raise it in the communal lab with all the other intended abortions? Like...assuming anybody ever agrees to this procedure, WHY are you even doing it? |
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well sunfan and danceguy at least you're gay. you'll be fine
dbp though. don't go too wild or else the state'll make you become a baby daddy fr this is ridiculous and because of it i'm not ever considering even possibly moving to georgia while this ... thing... exists |
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i'm a wild
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I'm curious to see what happens to Plan B and the like under this law
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The bill in ohio labels iuds and bc pills as abortions lol what the fuck is this country
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Some women may have differing opinions on terminating a pregnancy. Some may want to end their pregnancy but still want to salvage the fetus and give it up for adoption. It's not guaranteed the attempt will be successful, although I see it the same way as other medical procedures: just because there isn't a method right now doesn't mean we can't work towards a method in the future. To me, not trying would be like throwing our hands up in the air about cancer treatment because there isn't some magical panacea to remove cancer cells from a patient's body. Even if the data collected about trying to salvage the fetus points toward it being impractical, that's useful information to share. Of course, looking at the bigger picture that does go into how we can handle the foster care system in the United States in a much better way with the extra newborns put up for adoption. That's another discussion. |
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not here to participate in the critical thinking portion of this thread.
just here to respectfully give my "fuck Georgia" and move on. don't mind me, continue with the discussion. |
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it's interesting to think about what kind of laws were once considered outrageous but over time have evolved a sense of feeling normalized were it's no longer a question or a care. |
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You're seemingly wanting to solve a problem I don't think exists. |
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It's not an either-this-or-that case; it's more of a technological limitations issue. The reason why we have the current medical and surgical abortion procedures that are the safest established methods for terminating a pregnancy is because that's what is currently known. "IVF is the process of fertilization by extracting eggs, retrieving a sperm sample, and then manually combining an egg and sperm in a laboratory dish. The embryo(s) is then transferred to the uterus." IVF is still putting the embryo back into the uterus. A woman can want a fetus to develop without wanting to risk complications of a pregnancy, or in the case of not wanting the pregnancy to begin with, still put it up for adoption and give up parental rights. There are different opinions for what a woman wants. |
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Do you know of any women who've actually asserted that they want that?
And, once again because you somehow seem to keep missing it: The people who are anti-abortion / anti-choice DO NOT ACTUALLY CARE ABOUT THE ZYGOTE/FETUS/POTENTIAL FUTURE HUMAN. AT ALL. They will accept on redirecting literally 0 dollars to find these new methods, they will allocate no resources, no manpower, no tax revenue to providing pregnant people MORE options. THEY DO NOT CARE ABOUT THAT AT ALL. |
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Ok so like im pretty dumb, but I'm sorta agreeing with devonin here, its like, what is the issue anyways?
I get it that pro-life people go like "life begins at conception!1!11" but like, why does it even matter? What is being accomplished by forcing that life to exist? Do they do it so they can morally feel "well I did the right deed and blessed the sanctity of human life!!" and get like, a ego-boner from it or something? I just can't fathom the reasoning behind it, it's like fine if you believe life matters, but theres literally no reason behind it. At the end of the day it seems like its just people trying to push the fact that theyre "morally correct" onto other people literally for the sake of doing just that, and not for the well being of anyone. If they cared about others well being then they'd just allow women to do what they want lol, so basically the impression I end up getting is that suddenly the life of the person having the child is worthless, but for some reason the life of the "baby that hasn't even been born" is suddenly OMG SO VALUABLE. All in all people are dumb. Quote:
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They look back to the days where the man was the only authority in the household, and men were the only authority period. And they wish for a return to those days. The "pro-life" movement is only anti-woman. It is not actually pro anything. |
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I don't really know much about the issue.. Luckily, I'm from Canada where things like abortion are fully legal and governed by the state and everything seems just fine.. I just read on a wiki article about Abortion in canada: Quote:
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It doesn't need to have a history of litigation in favour of legalized abortion because there are no laws limiting it. And the laws that used to exist to limit it were struck down as unconstitutional.
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edit: also lmao when you put it that way, the article sounds biased as hell lolll "ok so this party didn't provide any explicit pro/anti abortion rhetoric... oh yea by the way in canada thats not even a debate at all so they have no reason to provide it, but yea since they didn't pick a stance we'll just say theyre 'neutral' to make it seem like theyre not for abortion ahaha semantics are sweet" |
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or that they didn't pick a stance (it says the organization is pro-choice) |
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That wording is extremely specific. At least in Ontario, there is no way abortions would be able to be provided by private clinics; to "refer patients to abortion providers" in Ontario means "get them a referral to a hospital, the same as any other procedure would need" That entire paragraph is completely unnecessary. |
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