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Shadow_God_10 07-4-2019 02:16 AM

Re: TWG 187: Senpai [Game Thread]
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hakulyte (Post 4681820)
For me all these things are wolf patterns trying to grasp what they have to understand to fit with the game.

What I was hoping for was not a read list, but more like concerns or signs of being lost if there's nothing significant that has been found yet. (which is ok as a new player)

See, now what I thought was being sought after me was a reads list of some sort. That one was my fault for jumping the gun (though it was indeed joke centered, and I'll admit to my fault of not checking before posting.) There are quite a few concerns that I don't know how to express because I just can't seem to figure out a couple things.

1. How on Earth can someone pluck out reads so early into the game?
2. Is it normal to become paranoid of being the center of a mislynch because you JUST aren't sure which direction the game is going, which results in inactivity, which results in town thinking you're a wolf, which results in votes against you.

I'm here to help but it could possibly be too late right now with my little shitreads list.

Soundwave- 07-4-2019 02:18 AM

Re: TWG 187: Senpai [Game Thread]
 
Pretty much just you (and obviously the inno).

I have other strong feelings but not like circle level feelings. Now is not really the time for me to be writing about this, I think I should sleep.

Soundwave- 07-4-2019 02:20 AM

Re: TWG 187: Senpai [Game Thread]
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Shadow_God_10 (Post 4681824)
1. How on Earth can someone pluck out reads so early into the game?
2. Is it normal to become paranoid of being the center of a mislynch because you JUST aren't sure which direction the game is going, which results in inactivity, which results in town thinking you're a wolf, which results in votes against you.

In a perfect game you can't. But people aren't perfect and some interesting interactions have occurred. You could also talk about the (at least) 2 significant mechanical things that have happened (which is more than most games).

And yes. I'm still paranoid about that kind of thing, and I don't think I can call myself a beginner anymore.

Funnygurl555 07-4-2019 02:21 AM

Re: TWG 187: Senpai [Game Thread]
 
imo you're not even close to the lynch rn. way too early

just talk to people, ask questions, remember how people played last game and compare it to how they're playing now. you'll get it. it's hard at first and that's ok

Shadow_God_10 07-4-2019 02:26 AM

Re: TWG 187: Senpai [Game Thread]
 
I think I'm in overload right now and I'm overthinking the game. If I come down from the overload and get back into this with a clear head I should be able to produce some info. I completely forgot about previous games being a part of how to read people.

Funnygurl555 07-4-2019 02:27 AM

Re: TWG 187: Senpai [Game Thread]
 
you got time. :P it's like everyone's bedtime now anyway

Wayward Vagabond 07-4-2019 02:29 AM

Re: TWG 187: Senpai [Game Thread]
 
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Originally Posted by gold stinger (Post 4681269)
@H&H

Is your waifu pick somewhat popular, could you see someone in a 1 in 21 odds picking someone from the same origin as yours?

I would park a bet that if so, there's possibility that the 'strings attached' are in that person's role PM. I refuse to believe that there's just a rando vanilla innocent child d1 in a Xiz game.

this sounds a lot more like someone trying to fish out possible info on a linked town than someone just curious about the mechanics of the game. kinda FISHY

Wayward Vagabond 07-4-2019 02:32 AM

Re: TWG 187: Senpai [Game Thread]
 
shit xiz

Hakulyte 07-4-2019 02:33 AM

Re: TWG 187: Senpai [Game Thread]
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Shadow_God_10 (Post 4681824)
1. How on Earth can someone pluck out reads so early into the game?

By identifying posting patterns that tends to appear more as a wolf player.
By using previous experience of the game.
By asking questions to other players about why they see things a certain way.
By comparing how others are drawing a picture of the game compared to how you see the game.
e.g: This person is saying things that doesn't make sense to me. Is it because of previous experience, mechanical reasons or because they know too much information from being a wolf ? etc.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shadow_God_10 (Post 4681824)
2. Is it normal to become paranoid of being the center of a mislynch because you JUST aren't sure which direction the game is going, which results in inactivity, which results in town thinking you're a wolf, which results in votes against you.

Mechanical lynches happens before gut reads and bad plays because players have to counter verify if you're playing badly as town vs if you're being wolfy. Soundwave is in bigger danger than you because I committed myself on voting him based on night actions. So, you have little reason to be paranoid at this very moment. Your focus should be on identifying who's likely to be a town buddy for now because you'll probably want people to rely on for votes, but also you need second opinions to evaluate players and put together the game.

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Originally Posted by Shadow_God_10 (Post 4681824)
I'm here to help but it could possibly be too late right now with my little shitreads list.

Your read list didn't scream wolf; it just felt like it accomplished nothing.

Your read list would scream wolf if it tried to push the game in a certain direction that doesn't feel right.

The problem with that mentality tho is that wolves tend to try to do what town think is right by abusing their additional knowledge of knowing who is town and "who to trust" etc.

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Here's a little example:

I got triple town read.

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Originally Posted by Funnygurl555 (Post 4681742)
i think haku's town here not 100% sure but

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Originally Posted by Soundwave- (Post 4681782)
I don't think Haku frames me like this. So yeah.

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Originally Posted by the sun fan (Post 4681745)
yeah ok Haku does indeed feel town

I do agree with them that I'm town.
I cannot fully trust them at this point.

Funnygurl555 and Sunfan also seemed to believe you were town.
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Originally Posted by Funnygurl555 (Post 4681766)
i don't see the incentive for a wolf to lie here

then again, i don't know what you sent soundwave

idk i think soundwave rn's being nai

Quote:

Originally Posted by the sun fan (Post 4681790)
I believe shadowgod is town

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Originally Posted by the sun fan (Post 4681791)
I'm kinda surprised that haku doesn't seem his as different
its like
open-and-shut different to me

It makes me want to believe you're town too.
I'll have to reevaluate Funnygurl555/Sunfan in relation to you to figure out if I'm talking with 3 town players.

So, do you guys think Sunfan/Funnygurl555 are town based on iso etc. ?

Wayward Vagabond 07-4-2019 02:35 AM

Re: TWG 187: Senpai [Game Thread]
 
my favourite part of reading through the thread is rbs nihilposting xiz

Funnygurl555 07-4-2019 02:36 AM

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im not town-reading shadowgod haku :P

nor am i town-reading soundwave (he's 'ight for now though)

Hakulyte 07-4-2019 02:37 AM

Re: TWG 187: Senpai [Game Thread]
 
lol I quoted something aimed at Soundwave to defend Shadow_God_10.

derp.

flashflash account 07-4-2019 02:37 AM

Re: TWG 187: Senpai [Game Thread]
 
Why are we lynching xiz

Hakulyte 07-4-2019 02:38 AM

Re: TWG 187: Senpai [Game Thread]
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Funnygurl555 (Post 4681762)
ask people questions. that helps me get a feel for things

fwiw haku, i think soundwave's telling the truth here

ps: why is that a thing.

Funnygurl555 07-4-2019 02:38 AM

Re: TWG 187: Senpai [Game Thread]
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hakulyte (Post 4681837)
ps: why is that a thing.

you can tell the truth about what you received at night and still be a wolf imo. that's why i thought the whole thing wasn't alignment indicative

Wayward Vagabond 07-4-2019 02:39 AM

Re: TWG 187: Senpai [Game Thread]
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hakulyte (Post 4681832)
Mechanical lynches happens before gut reads and bad plays because players have to counter verify if you're playing badly as town vs if you're being wolfy. Soundwave is in bigger danger than you because I committed myself on voting him based on night actions. So, you have little reason to be paranoid at this very moment.

why shouldn't he be paranoid just because you aren't voting him? granted it's still early and he shouldn't be worried anyway unless he's a wolf and doesn't know what to say and he feels like he's sticking out but that's neither here nor there right now.

xiz

Hakulyte 07-4-2019 02:39 AM

Re: TWG 187: Senpai [Game Thread]
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by flashflash account (Post 4681836)
Why are we lynching xiz

Posting restriction where WV has to vote Xiz constantly.

Wayward Vagabond 07-4-2019 02:40 AM

Re: TWG 187: Senpai [Game Thread]
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by flashflash account (Post 4681836)
Why are we lynching xiz

i'm not allowed to know what you're talking about xiz

Funnygurl555 07-4-2019 02:40 AM

Re: TWG 187: Senpai [Game Thread]
 
wait is it a posting restriction lmao

Hakulyte 07-4-2019 02:41 AM

Re: TWG 187: Senpai [Game Thread]
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Wayward Vagabond (Post 4681839)
why shouldn't he be paranoid just because you aren't voting him? granted it's still early and he shouldn't be worried anyway unless he's a wolf and doesn't know what to say and he feels like he's sticking out but that's neither here nor there right now.

xiz

I think lynching wolves is better than lynching potential wolves.


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