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you will drink so much alcohol and do so very little
I honestly don't know how you could say "unfortunately i'll be in south korea" unless you hate asians

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Johnson couldn't name a single foreign leader looooooool

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Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump go into a bakery.

As soon as they enter the bakery, Hillary steals three pastries and puts them in her pocket.

She says to Donald, "See how clever I am? The owner didn't see anything and I don't even need to lie.” I will definitely win the election.

Then Donald says to Hillary, "That's the typical dishonesty you have displayed throughout your entire life, trickery and deceit. I am going to show you an honest way to get the same result."

Donald goes to the owner of the bakery and says, "Give me a pastry and I will show you a magic trick." Intrigued, the owner accepts and gives him a pastry. Trump swallows it and asks for another one. The owner gives him another one. Then Donald asks for a third pastry and eats that, too.

The owner is starting to wonder where the magic trick is and asks, "What did you do with the pastries?" Trump replies, "Look in Hillary's pocket".

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Charu 2016

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Duuuuuuuude south Korea has those good eats

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Every debate is going to be the same. Trump will continue to show absolutely no real understanding of US government or foreign policy while Hilary kicks ass.

Not that I want to vote for her. I'm just in a position where I feel like I don't really have a choice.

Kinda wish I didn't live in a swing state so I could vote for Johnson.

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yeah man I've been looking into his actual policies and stances and he's not too much better than the other candidates lol fug

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madmatty b aren't you supposed make this as a thread

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Like a dopey stoner from new Mexico isn't 100 times better than Trump, and like 10 times better than Hillary

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Lol was kidding man you're a salty bunch obv he's better than the other 2

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But still that's pretty embarrassing

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I will be drinking for sure. Rule is no alcohol in the first month and last three months. Unfortunately as in North Korea.

I'll try.

Lazy.

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No

gary johnson is a fucking idiot and his platform is a disaster

edit: like seriously. "Johnson does not support any action by government to mitigate climate change, stating: 'In a healthy economy that allows the market to function unimpeded, consumers, innovators and personal choices will ultimately bring about the environmental restoration and protection society desires.'"

aka pretending that virtually every major environmental disaster in the last 50+ years wasn't the result of the private sector cutting regulatory corners for the short-term purpose of increasing profits

"He believes government should foster the free market by allowing businesses freedom to compete without restrictions."

oic have fun with countless more housing bubble & crashes of 2008

"Johnson believes that the 'costs of health care are out of control and something needs to be done to return health care to fiscal solvency.'"

at least we can agree to something relatively uncontroversial

"He does 'not believe that government should be taking over the health care system.' Instead, he believes that a 'market-based approach should be the foundation of any solution. A health care insurance system that is privately owned and managed is the best approach to solving our health care problems.'"

oh yeah it's not like our healthcare system isn't simultaneously one of the most: 1) privatized healthcare systems in the developed world; and 2) one of the most fiscally wasteful healthcare systems in the developed world

"He favors tort reform and control of frivolous lawsuits as means cutting costs of health care."

Hahaha. As if frivolous torts come even close to constituting a significant proportion of our healthcare costs. First of all, the two are not related to the extent that it really makes sense to utilize tort reform as a solution to healthcare expenditures. Proposed solutions to problems should, if possible, be remotely related to the problems that they attempt to ameliorate. Example of the opposite: childhood obesity is a major health concern that may seriously reduce U.S. productivity. Solution: decrease energy expenditures to allocate funding toward ending childhood obesity. Wait a minute, that doesn't make sense, because the two aren't related in a significant way, and it would make more sense to reduce funding for a health program that was ineffective at improving heath outcomes, in order to fund more effective health policies. Furthermore, healthcare expenditures are expected to constitute $3 trillion this year, compared to $105 billion a year for torts. That is, torts, generally. not frivolous torts. Reforming frivolous torts, mathematically, is one of the most ludicrously inadequate solutions I've ever seen proposed to cutting healthcare costs.

"Johnson says his only issue with trade unions, including teachers' unions, is that they require both good and bad workers to be treated the same."

wow, it's almost as if Johnson's "only issue" with the existence of criminal defense lawyers would be that they are required to treat good and bad defendants the same. it's not like that way of looking at adversarial systems is completely short sighted and impractical, or anything. Let's just get rid of Bad Ppl and replace them all with Good Ppl. easy!

and i mean, that's without getting into the fact that he couldn't name a single world leader without immense leading. I mean, i honestly dont' even really care that much about that. i mean, i do a little, but it's pretty trivial in the grand scheme of the horrific, policy abortions that Johnson has proposed. but it's just kind of the icing on the cake at this point

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Can you rationally parse out this statement without: 1) defaulting to irony; 2) sounding like an idiot; and 3) not making a false equivalency between trump and hillary?

I mean I get that you basically just said trump is 10x worse than hillary, but those are meaningless, emotionally charged quantifiers, and I doubt you could come up with comparable quantifiers relating to johnson and hillary that would be convincing.

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Johnson doesn't know who any world leaders are.

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travis flesher 2016

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That's a long post for something I don't care about. I'd vote for Hillary, trump is a massive dumbass, but I don't have to worry about that giant mess cuz thankfully I'm not American

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at least, not ones he respects if i remember that sound bite, which is dangerous

thing is i have a hard time putting stock in foreign policy experience as a prerequisite, because it's hard to have without having worked in a job like secretary of state before, but it is a huge plus factor for those who have it

johnson has other executive experience which is a plus for him but ideologically he's a minus

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You guys should vote for me I'll try to fix things I swear