Re: VISA/Mastercard blocks payment to Horowitz Center because of SPLC
 

Jesus

If I wanted to read someone belittling everyone on the site for being "wrong" about something, then I'd just go to GameFAQs or something...

Re: VISA/Mastercard blocks payment to Horowitz Center because of SPLC
 

i wonder why komochii's so angry

Re: VISA/Mastercard blocks payment to Horowitz Center because of SPLC
 

Well okay, not "everyone". Just two people.

Still though

Re: VISA/Mastercard blocks payment to Horowitz Center because of SPLC
 

Got blocked by VISA/Mastercard probably.

Re: VISA/Mastercard blocks payment to Horowitz Center because of SPLC
 

Boom, gottem~~~

Re: VISA/Mastercard blocks payment to Horowitz Center because of SPLC
 

LOL

Re: VISA/Mastercard blocks payment to Horowitz Center because of SPLC
 

never change charu

Re: VISA/Mastercard blocks payment to Horowitz Center because of SPLC
 

Thanks

Re: VISA/Mastercard blocks payment to Horowitz Center because of SPLC
 

ignore him, he's just baiting

Re: VISA/Mastercard blocks payment to Horowitz Center because of SPLC
 

Re: VISA/Mastercard blocks payment to Horowitz Center because of SPLC
 

Pot Kettle [Black ANOTHER]

Re: VISA/Mastercard blocks payment to Horowitz Center because of SPLC
 

God damn it

Re: VISA/Mastercard blocks payment to Horowitz Center because of SPLC
 

there's some good news: VISA denied involvement, and it appears to not be an explicit decision by VISA. this is in contrast to PayPal's recent decisions, where the company did admit involvement in blocking certain accounts for speech-related reasons. so if it was a decision at all, it's due to some kind of automated fraud detection a la report abuse.

this rules out the worst case scenario, which was far more worrisome. I was hoping this was the case, because Stormfront would have been first on the chopping block ahead of the Horowitz center. I still can't believe some of you are conceptually okay with the worst-case outcome. you have warped priorities if you think that would not be disastrous.

Re: VISA/Mastercard blocks payment to Horowitz Center because of SPLC
 

the worst-case scenario would have been a hate group not receiving money which is actually a good thing imo

Re: VISA/Mastercard blocks payment to Horowitz Center because of SPLC
 

no, the "hate group" label is useless, vague, and irrelevant. the term "hate" is meaningless, and more ideological than substantial.

the splc's definition in particular has not been meaningful in any way. https://www.law.com/americanlawyer/2...20180724171554

what a given group is able to do, and therefore what sets the standard for what is posssible and what people are okay with -- aka, societal and legal precedents -- is far more important than whether any given group receives money or not.

Re: VISA/Mastercard blocks payment to Horowitz Center because of SPLC
 

LOL best thing posted in this thread

Re: VISA/Mastercard blocks payment to Horowitz Center because of SPLC
 

my questions are

what did DHFC do to deserve this flak?
this spreading of spiteful and biased information?

even if Horowitz himself has different political views from whoever is starting this,
it should have nothing to do with the business he runs. (by this, i mean the ability to keep said business up and running shouldn't be affected)

the flow of money is all these credit card companies care about anyway,
why would they give two shits without a sound reason?
otherwise anybody can go around pointing fingers at whoever and saying they did stuff and everybody will believe them.

this isn't the 1700's

one more question.
who's to say the organization spreading this information isn't jumping the gun or making a mistake?
biased media can be quite the spectacle when it turns out the people calling others out is wrong.

Re: VISA/Mastercard blocks payment to Horowitz Center because of SPLC
 

I remember having a passing conversation with Sky Kitten once while at Anime North where she went to a major grocery chain in Ontario here, and they could take VISA but not MasterCard, or vice versa, I forget which one it was exactly. I pressed about whether or not like the service was just temporarily down but no, they just didn't accept it.

Regardless, the point stands. Life will find a way.

Re: VISA/Mastercard blocks payment to Horowitz Center because of SPLC
 

So people are saying, who cares, if people hate a hate group... their a hate group

edit: they deserve to be hated, even though certain people hate that the people are hating them o_o and this further implicates universal hatred D:then everyone will love to hate :3

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I have a feeling posts like this are not gonna age well. now even your payment processors/credit card handlers are getting their greasy hands in the virtue signalling ring? just move money and shut the fuck up jesus christ.