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I see what you are referring to but I was referring to the chaos of your wagon and sunfan's wagon

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Also

Dude voted for Funny

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okay

well why do you think wolf!charu would vote funny there instead of voting either you (if you're a villager) or mellon (if she's a villager) or staying on sunfan (if he's a villager)

who is he trying to save or is he just moving to move?

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not going for a gotcha just want to follow your train of thought through

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I do
You gotta have a case first. Not being around can be a good case when it's extreme but this isn't a good example of it.

I would probably want to re read first EOD before giving a solid team of 3 but but like Charu, DBP and Manti really are gross here, although I can see Manti being town in some cases.

I don't remember who they voted last phase or if there's even a pattern to see there. I think you're on to something when you said that wolves have no reason not to group vote people in flipless.

Chaos would still be a strong world for it but honesty I don't think the SunFan was ever a serious wagon. A really dark way to look at it was that people where seeing how well that idea stuck.

But I think it was Neeee who voted him because he didn't like the Raeko wagon. When it didn't really stick he switched to me.

Could be moving to move. Could also think that Funny was just super easy and he can get the other three options lynched easy enough later.

I have heat and people want to lynch me already (and I actually almost did get lynched) so switching it to me in the world where Funny is town accomplishes nothing anyway since a town dies regardless and he probably feels like he can get another 3 people on me with no effort anytime. The ship for SunFan and Raeko kind of sailed by that point as well so sticking with them doesn't make that much sense.

TLDR Funny was presented on a silver platter and he took it.

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i was voting roundbox prior to moving to sunfan, but yeah.

neither of those wagons really got traction for whatever reason.

kinda surprising wrt roundbox btw that his wagon didn't get much traction.

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To everyone doubting about Charu being town;

Keep in mind that "Wolf Charu" could have got in a lot of trouble if 3 players had a blue role and decided to claim.

The fact that no one really did anything about it just shows that it's very unlikely there's something here.

The benefit is way too small considering how this game work.

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TWG is all about creating the right opportunities to reach your end goal.

Some prefer to just chill, stay in the background and analyze what the other players are doing.

Others want to be part of the action even if they're likely to be wrong.

The point is that both are necessary to win a game.

You need content. You need feedback, you need to compare how others view things and why. You need to build trust with players based on their interactions and you have to try to ask the right questions and/or push the right things, but also the right way to not only reach your goal, but also make the others vote with you.

It may as well just be a big diplomatic war about having the freedom to push a lynch somewhere.

Anyway, back to the point. Solving a game is all about "creating a way".

I believe in tryharding even if I only have like 1/10 chance of being right. This game doesn't punish you for trying to find a wolf and failing. It does punish players tho who maintain certain behavior.

I don't believe you guys will ever lynch me as long as I try to do something helpful about the state of the game and if you do, it better be for a good reason.

Being bad is a thing, but bad content or not. As long as I get the help I need to correct myself, I should remain relevant.

I believe it's a lot easier to get town read by being constantly active than how I'm playing with work etc. You guys cannot get the feeling of seeing me actively post stuff and I miss content like this post of yours because I try to priorize what should be important.

Anyway, pushing narratives isn't really detrimental as long as you get something out of it.

I had weak reads and I got responses from the players in question I was targeting and guess what- it helped me get a better picture of the game.

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Charu lock town due to above post and risk/reward not being worth the claim.
Moving Neee Town.
Pairing MML with Raeko in some odd universe.
Suspicious of Dabackpack's confidence and lack of apparent detectiveness. I feel like I never know what he's thinking and it's bothering me.
Back on drawing board for Sunfan. I kind of want to compare Sunfan to inDheart in terms of not being sure what to think of them.
Manti's alignment might be tied to Sunfan's alignment for me.
If Sunfan was a wolf, Precarious(voted by Sunfan) and MML(voted by Sunfan) are Town. Funnygurl555 was a wolf. (assuming he never busses here and there's definitely no reason to buss with no cardflips.)
MML feels too inconsistent with everything to be a wolf, I feel like he would filter his game differently if he was one.
I tend to believe Raeko overall, but I'm worried about if I'm just getting pocketed. This is mostly due to me reading a lot of posts about people talking about my alignment. I would revisit her in like 2 phases.
Roundbox had many interesting small hindsights in his posts. It felt like he was trying to figure out others and slowly build some town circle on his own. It makes sense considering the state of the game.
I forgot WV somehow. I guess I'll iso him again soon.

That's as close as I can give reads so far. A lot of it is still guts, but whatever.

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So about 6 hours ago the site fucking crashed so I just dipped. I did copy/pasta the post I was making so here you guys go

--

DaBackPack and Charu never a team, I guess.
What was it Haku said about town acting more town? He right tho.


I think I need to really ISO and grill both of them this phase because I fully believe that there's a wolf there 100% of the time. That Funny wagon was just way to unclean.

For now, I sleep.


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@Haku: The bit about Charu being legit isn't true since the three wouldn't easily know they are three and not just two, unless they planned on claiming outright.

Anyway I have breakfast and a long morning to attend to.

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I really don't get your scum read on me, it sounds like you're taking your suspicions from beginning of last phase into fruition now when you had all of last phase to do so.

I don't feel good about the Funnygurl lynch either, I already stated I didn't trust myself believing in thesunfan and my read on precarious. The other wagon was, well, you, and I think you're town just from one single post that I'm going to hold on to because otherwise I would've joined in the MML lynch.

GOD I would've joined it and not felt any remorse, right or wrong. You know this to be true for how much I brung it up and how I listed you as a possible wolf before.

...But I appreciate you holding yourself back last phase from super aggressive posts after you blew up. It allowed me to review your post right after Syhto died which is all the proof I need to show you're not a wolf.

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Speaking of that, let me re-quote it because goodness, no one even talked about it when I brought it up.

He made that post... SEVEN MINUTES past Syhto dying, it was as if he didn't know Syhto was going to die.

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If that isn't good enough because he could've faked it, well I don't know what else to defend him by. I think that post and the timestamp is highly telling of his alignment.

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Welcome to me pre lynch.

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For those of you that missed it:

I think this got missed in the activity of eod, but can I get thoughts on this.

I feel like this makes Haku/funny a greater then rand chance at being w/w.

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My thoughts are as such:

I can understand what you're seeing, but it could be that some of the players are not comfortable of voting for someone when they're currently not present at EoD. (See Backpack last night in regards to choosing FunnyGurl)

Other than that, I don't think this is any indication of a pairing being involved. I do however believe she still could be a wolf, but it's one of those "idk, maybe" deals. She left a vote on mellon for what it's worth, and I'm assuming she was also aware that she had been hovering this phase as well. Then there's the aforementioned scenario I described, but for the third time, it's tinfoiling and nothing can be proven.

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I mean my case about your EoD is being backed by your posts at EoD so I don't think you have ground to accuse me from just lazily carrying reads over.

You are right I thought that claim shit was bad but that's of the bed you made. At best, we could go after DBP but I ain't trying to pretend you haven't been giving me shit for not liking your bad play all game.

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Isn’t everything tinfoiling this game without some form of smoking gun?

Feels like if you’re tinfoiling a wolf scenario the only way to solve it or progress is for one of the players to die.

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And what, pray tell, do you believe is good play currently with what we know?

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I agree... in a card flip game.

When you lynch someone based off those theories, you don't get much back besides some psuedo-wagonomics.

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Like right now, do you believe Funnygurl was a hit?

If so, do you believe her vote on me on D1...

...Along with the others was opportunistic? Because Precarious also did the very same thing with me and I do think he is a hit.

One wolf I can get on, but two wolves taking opportunistic votes due to backpacks and knee's accusations on me?

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Not threatening town would be a good start.

Not being a snide shitfuck like you 're already wanting to do again from reading the above line would also be great.

You are at least not coasting like SunFan accused you of d0 so hey that's a positive keep on keeping on.

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its an amateur level move in terms of difficulty to fake, man

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you're dead, dead wrong because funny is almost never a wolf

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It wasn't a threat at all. It was more of me thinking out loud of the consequences of saying the number when I didn't completely understand the sabotage mechanic. If you still think that was a threat of some sorts, then sorry?

You being serious with this line? Because now I think you're trying to pick a fight with me. The above line was not meant to cause drama. It was to get your opinion on what you consider to be good play at this point in time.

...

Are you painting me wolf because of equally selfish reasons I had by the way?

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break it up

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I don't think so.

He was multi-quoting multiple people during phase change.

If he knew Syhto was going to get killed, I don't think he'd add in the line of "you're untrustworthy" in his post regarding her.

If you believe that to be something simple wolves can do, then shoot, go with that theory then and do what you think it's right. As for me, I'll defend MML specifically due to this point because I think it's the strongest piece of evidence supporting his alignment than any other type of words or posts he may have made.

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It def looked like a threat because of the pressure. I've brought this point up a few times so why you waiting until now to explain it?

I'm being serious that you've been throwing shit at me all game with admitted little reason for it that I'm not cool with putting up with right now

If you didn't mean that as trying to start shit then I would assume you would have addressed my point (your eod) instead of knee-jerk at my closing line.

No, and you would know that if You reread my posts made doing the night
I honestly don't give a fuck that you hate me for a game you weren't even in your roll this game was done after that.

Your attitude and actions however, where not.

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If you mean the one that just happened where I switched from mellon to thesunfan, and then thesunfan to funnygurl.

I feel like this is repeating, but:

I was initially going to keep my vote on mellon for not making any strong posts after prodding her a bit with some more reads.

However, thesunfan made a post that made think of a previous game unrelated to this game where he pushed on me for something silly and people bought it up.

This caused me to doubt my mellon vote and I instant grew suspicious of thesunfan.

I then upon this path recalled I believed prec to be wolfin' for his read change from "Charu is okayish" to "Charu is wolfin'".

Recall also that mellon ALSO voted on precarious out of the blue without prompt.

So then enter this state where I think mellon being wolf here if Precarious is wolf seems impossible and that's when I snapped my vote to thesunfan.

However, I haven't really considered thesunfan as a possible lynch at all that phase and so when the other wagons were presented. (You and Funny)

I already said I don't think you were a wolf, so I chose Funny and put in a disclaimer that I was voting her for not so good reasons.

...

Is that enough for you? Or do you want something else?

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Because that's as basic and simple I can explain my EoD to you.

If you think that's bad, then sorry, maybe I should've had my town read get lynched after all.

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That's fine for right now

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Charu, that whole thing is pretty silly because I pushed for precarious to be lynched. If u think he's a wolf then u think I'm prolly not, or u should at least.

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It's not like I'm proud of my eod either so
Dont take that for more than it needs to be

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It was a snap vote, like I said, because I was suspicious of you and thought, if Precarious is a wolf, then mellon just simply can't be a wolf. I didn't think about who was pushing Precarious at the end at that point in time during the EoD that just happened. I was only thinking that the lynch was probably wrong.

And pushing Precarious means nothing. Do you think Precarious was a hit? If not, then my suspicions of you are valid. If yes, then you should be thinking along the same lines I am with mellon.

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no, I don't think Precarious is a wolf
and I think you're a little crazy to be basing the game off of a suspicion like that; you could easily, easily be wrong on him

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the fact remains, Charu, that if you think Precarious is a wolf, then I had a sizable part in getting him lynched

so if you think he's a wolf, why do you think I might be?

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No clue, it'd make no sense if either one of you decided to lynch a partner like that when he was not in the line of fire for most of the phase.

Okay then, I suppose the only way I can see mellon as a wolf then is disregarding the world where Precarious is wolf. However, that also means you're still up in the air then. However, you did lay off of me first EoD and could've just gone with my lynch.

...Alright, fine, I suppose you're not a wolf in either world. Not for absolute certain though, but at least enough since I'm collecting my thoughts right now.

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If I didn't switch to funny near the end, kitb wouldn't have happened and mml would have died here. If anything, it could pair me with mml's alignment.

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Funny could have been a wolf trying to pocket me last phase tbh.

My vote happened before I read that part tho.

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To work I go. .-.

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I didn't respond to this and I was totally going to.

It may be crazy to you, but when you got nothing else to work with besides some pseudo-wagonomics, I'll take this theory in its place until something else debunks it.

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Update: feeling worse today than I was yesterday. Just woke up from sleeping for 14 hours

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RIP

i think you got me sick too :(

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I blame manti he started it

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Can someone give me a rundwon of what happened while I was in a coma?

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probably just read the last 30 minutes before eod, they're the most important and it shouldn't be too much to catch up on

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Alright thanks

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Around 6 hours left till the night is over.

Send all night actions and role requests to me via PM or discord (The Ancardia Codex#8347)

I will be at an event around the time night ends. I will try to update the thread and process night actions on time but I can't guarantee it will happen. There might be a delay. Just a heads up

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Yo that shit is no fun I was like dead for a day.

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yo manti you still think that haku/fg are possible wolf/wolf after haku hammered fg yesterday?

not loaded question actually asking

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https://zoom.us/j/873684503

in case anyone is interested in lTWG

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Anything in this game is possible. Maybe less likely

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Why do u think syhto bit the dust?
Let's assume she was killed by wolves in this example since it seems like the most likely

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rolleyes

ofc anything is possible i'm asking if you still believe it.



cause that was your only reason for voting funny afaik

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25 people viewing the thread :O

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I ended up going back to sleep. I've been in and out all day

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i'm ready to join dvc

release me from my suffering!

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if charu doesn't die I am renewing my suspicion of him

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was literally about to say the same thing but -shrug- we'll see

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Sorry for delay.

Neeee is dead

Day 3 starts now and ends in 48 hours.

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first thing I want to say today is that I don't think yesterday was a KitB

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Phone posting again before bed but uh...

What's with this callout and then actually dying? Did I miss something?

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secondly, if you asked for a role previously, even if it didn't do anything, now might be the time to say so

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thirdly, we must address the problem of why Charu is still alive

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Why's that?

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that's your response?

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Probably because they see all this bad blood I have with some here. Unless you're thinking something different?

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I'm gonna he honest and say that I think the only person here who would leave you alive is Manti

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Yes, because I have no clue what you're talking about.

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I can hear him saying "humans always get paranoid"

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vote altering roles are a thing in this game

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I don't think he's wolfing though, not after that outburst anyways.

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How likely do you think that is though

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tbh I'm thinking about pulling the legendary d2 full reads reset at this point

I'm probably clearing people for bad reasons

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I will give you all of the credits I have on my other account if its not a thing in this game

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I'm not saying it's not a thing I just want to know how likely you think it is that the kitb was rigged

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I see, the OP states it. Well then, that makes wagonomics even harder if wolves had something To change a vote without us knowing.

I honestly wasn't thinking of votes being skewed at all this game.

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less sure but relatively likely is my mindset here

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hi im drunk

i didn't expect to be out this long tbh i wanted to waffle about game state for a bit

the short of it is im mad at people who were content with the town core yesterday specifically bc its no flip

like it feels liek a couple of the more recent games ive played where people wanna spin the idea that there's a bunch of town reading each other all correctly, but i'm not sure why that's happening this gam when it doesn't fee lliek people are reading each other with a frehree of confidence and the lynches feel really bad and have been prone to cfd

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I assume last eod had no tampering since the host himself stated it was a KitB