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Dynam0 12-23-2015 05:25 PM

Re: why should we care about other people?
 
because reasons

Buta-san 12-23-2015 06:53 PM

Re: why should we care about other people?
 
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Originally Posted by -JiZ53- (Post 4386793)
It is obviously something that any group of people needs to be cohesive

Not any group of people are cohesive. There are many times you are stuck with other people you dislike, don't agree with especially working.
It's more obvious why people would care about other people.

janetfdoss 12-30-2015 01:19 AM

Re: why should we care about other people?
 
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Originally Posted by -JiZ53- (Post 4386793)
What good is it to care about the feelings or welfare of other people? It is obviously something that any group of people needs to be cohesive, but for an individual with no group, in a society as large as ours, what good is caring about other people?

It is very good to take care about others. At least i try to go with these thoughts.

stargroup100 01-5-2016 07:07 AM

Re: why should we care about other people?
 
Once again I'm late to the discussion. w/e

If you want an objective reason to care about other people, the most convincing practical argument that I can come up with is that it is simply objectively beneficial to cooperate with other people.

Take any economics 101 class and you'll understand this. If people specialized in particular jobs, they would collectively get more done. A basic math problem can demonstrate proof of concept on a micro-level. On a larger scale, it's much easier to observe through example: It's completely unfeasible and absurd to imagine that a single human being is capable of producing a modern computer from circuit components, let alone nature. Yet humanity as a whole has not only done that, but can also mass produce it on a level that makes it accessible for most any middle-class person.

Your entire life is inevitably going to involve interactions with other people, there's really no way to avoid it (unless you're absolutely committed to it, which will involve very heavy sacrifices). Even if you wanted to be a complete sociopath, it's still in your benefit to treat other people as objects that can work to your benefit if you know how to handle them. If you objectify and disrespect people, they're not going to be willing to work with you, so being able to empathize (or even put up a convincing facade) is a good skill to learn. This is something that most intelligent sociopaths generally realize and accept.


Unfortunately though, similar to the other thread, I don't think the author of the opening post actually cares enough about discussion, and really just wants to post vapid pseudo-philosophical cliches for attention.

choof 01-5-2016 11:26 AM

Re: why should we care about other people?
 
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Originally Posted by stargroup100 (Post 4392351)

Unfortunately though, similar to the other thread, I don't think the author of the opening post actually cares enough about discussion, and really just wants to post vapid pseudo-philosophical cliches for attention.

what gave you this idea

SCWolf 01-6-2016 05:01 AM

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Empathy is a real thing most people feel

Frank Munoz 01-6-2016 05:28 AM

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New thread topic

why do we think?
why must we all have different perspectives and not just think the same things regardless of our own personal experiences?

why are do we us?

-JiZ53- 01-7-2016 03:20 AM

Re: why should we care about other people?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by stargroup100 (Post 4392351)
Once again I'm late to the discussion. w/e

If you want an objective reason to care about other people, the most convincing practical argument that I can come up with is that it is simply objectively beneficial to cooperate with other people.

Take any economics 101 class and you'll understand this. If people specialized in particular jobs, they would collectively get more done. A basic math problem can demonstrate proof of concept on a micro-level. On a larger scale, it's much easier to observe through example: It's completely unfeasible and absurd to imagine that a single human being is capable of producing a modern computer from circuit components, let alone nature. Yet humanity as a whole has not only done that, but can also mass produce it on a level that makes it accessible for most any middle-class person.

Your entire life is inevitably going to involve interactions with other people, there's really no way to avoid it (unless you're absolutely committed to it, which will involve very heavy sacrifices). Even if you wanted to be a complete sociopath, it's still in your benefit to treat other people as objects that can work to your benefit if you know how to handle them. If you objectify and disrespect people, they're not going to be willing to work with you, so being able to empathize (or even put up a convincing facade) is a good skill to learn. This is something that most intelligent sociopaths generally realize and accept.


Unfortunately though, similar to the other thread, I don't think the author of the opening post actually cares enough about discussion, and really just wants to post vapid pseudo-philosophical cliches for attention.


You somehow managed to write four inane paragraphs while completely missing the point of my question. If you had taken How To Not Be an Idiot 101, you might have learned that everything you wrote is completely wrong and that cooperating with people isnt the same thing as caring about people. Unfortunately though, similar to most of your other posts, I don't think you actually care enough about discussion, and really just want to post vapid pseudo-philosophical cliches for attention.[/quote]

reuben_tate 01-7-2016 06:39 AM

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I feel with the previous discussion we've somewhat arrived at a conclusion in regards to "why should we at least pretend to care about people?"

So that raises the question of "Why should we genuinely care as opposed to just pretending to care about people?" As I said earlier, addressing this is difficult. The only thing I can think of at the moment is that genuinely caring is less stressful and mentally exhausting than pretending to care in my opinion; pretending to care would involve creating, developing, and maintaining an entire life-long facade and that doesn't sound very fun to do.

Rapta 01-7-2016 11:06 AM

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It depends on what each individual wants for themselves. If more people genuinely cared about others, the good coming from that would be a world with better morals which seems like a nice idea. Some people are depressed because they feel like nobody cares or nobody actually does care about them, so if you can care about someone you should for their sake, usually oneself feels good when helping others. Did I interpret your question right? .-.

stargroup100 01-13-2016 05:19 AM

Re: why should we care about other people?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by -JiZ53- (Post 4386793)
What good is it to care about the feelings or welfare of other people?

The good that comes from caring about people is that it motivates people to cooperate with each other, and then my argument above follows. I did in fact answer your question, I just assumed that this much was already obvious and I didn't need to explain it.

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Originally Posted by -JiZ53- (Post 4393427)
...cooperating with people isnt the same thing as caring about people.

Semantics. If you were referring to "caring" as strictly an emotional response you should not have phrased the question the way you did. On top of that, you'd be proving my point. As strictly an emotional response, no one can make you care about anything [directly], so asking people to convince you to care is vapid and attention-seeking.


We can teach and influence people to care about stuff by explaining or demonstrating objective reasons that relates to things the person already cares about. This is why I phrased the response the way I did. It is a general blanket concept that gives everyone a reason to care about other people. If you actually cared to care about other people and learn something, you'd take the argument for what it is and relate it to your own reason to care and contribute to the discussion with meaningful responses. By being salty and snapping back at me you're showing that what you actually cared about was being part of a conversation and your own ego, regardless of content.

P.S. Thanks for the "your files suck" comment on my wall. I appreciate all kinds of feedback. ;P

-JiZ53- 01-15-2016 09:47 AM

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I think we should care about other people because love nourishes the soul, and a man without love is a man with a tormented soul. I am not speaking of physical love, but of love that comes from the soul. love that comes from a desire to better yourself through the union with another, not parasitically, but symbiotically.

25thhour 01-15-2016 10:18 AM

Re: why should we care about other people?
 
This is a good question, as there are many answers.

One can argue we only care about other people because it makes us feel worthy, or better. This in a way can be looked at as rather selfish, as we are only doing it because it makes us feel better.

Another way to think about is just because humanity, for the most part has raised us to be compassionate, and care about others. This may not always be genuine, but for the most part, myself and the people whom I choose to surround myself with do that very thing; we are compassionate, and truly do care about others. In a way this makes people like us vulnerable as we can be easier to take advantage of by those who "act" like they care.

stargroup100 01-16-2016 08:10 AM

Re: why should we care about other people?
 
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Originally Posted by -JiZ53- (Post 4396249)
I think we should care about other people because love nourishes the soul, and a man without love is a man with a tormented soul. I am not speaking of physical love, but of love that comes from the soul. love that comes from a desire to better yourself through the union with another, not parasitically, but symbiotically.

word salad

define soul
what you just said literally means nothing

all you wanna do is listen to yourself talk. if you already have an answer [to your shitty question], why are you "quizzing" us?

-JiZ53- 01-16-2016 09:37 AM

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Originally Posted by stargroup100 (Post 4396436)
word salad

define soul
what you just said literally means nothing

all you wanna do is listen to yourself talk. if you already have an answer [to your shitty question], why are you "quizzing" us?

I predicted this response from you. Perhaps you should learn to think figuratively. I see no point in discussing this with somebody so hostile. It's ironic that all of your responses to this thread have been meaningless to me and have provided no insight to the topic. This combined with the pretense of your stance are why I do not see any reason to care about your posts or discuss this topic with you. If you do not know of the soul, I suggest you read some philosophy.

_Zenith_ 01-16-2016 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by stargroup100 (Post 4396436)
word salad

define soul
what you just said literally means nothing

all you wanna do is listen to yourself talk. if you already have an answer [to your shitty question], why are you "quizzing" us?

lmao best post in this thread

stargroup100 01-19-2016 01:47 PM

Re: why should we care about other people?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by -JiZ53- (Post 4396446)
I predicted this response from you.

you have to be near my level first

Quote:

Originally Posted by -JiZ53- (Post 4396446)
Perhaps you should learn to think figuratively. I see no point in discussing this with somebody so hostile. It's ironic that all of your responses to this thread have been meaningless to me and have provided no insight to the topic. This combined with the pretense of your stance are why I do not see any reason to care about your posts or discuss this topic with you.

it's not ironic, it's because you're stupid

Quote:

Originally Posted by -JiZ53- (Post 4396446)
If you do not know of the soul, I suggest you read some philosophy.

***** you can't even define philosophy without a dictionary

-JiZ53- 01-19-2016 02:58 PM

Re: why should we care about other people?
 
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Originally Posted by stargroup100 (Post 4397003)
you have to be near my level first


it's not ironic, it's because you're stupid


***** you can't even define philosophy without a dictionary

the childish nature of your responses in this thread seem to indicate that you are an individual dealing with a lot of frustration. I hope that you can find something to ease your troubled mind. I guarantee that directing your frustration at me is futile. you are like a child, imagine that I am your mother, here to soothe you.


now stargroup100, have you had anything to eat today? we all know how baby gets when he hasn't had his num-num. here suck on this pacifier, mommy is going to go in her room and read big kid books

_Zenith_ 01-19-2016 03:31 PM

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lmao the contradictions you make jiz are prime

-JiZ53- 01-19-2016 03:34 PM

Re: why should we care about other people?
 
where did I contradict myself?


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