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Shashakiro 01-15-2007 10:43 AM

Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2
 
It's not just the minijacks, but the INSANE awkwardness of the patterns that drastically increases the PA difficulty...plus the minijacks that make it tough to combo, too.

jimerax 01-16-2007 08:24 AM

Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2
 
k moved it to 6, for some testing.

Shashakiro 01-16-2007 12:09 PM

Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2
 
changed ingame.

Makes much more sense now...basically 5.5's are stuff that's possible for me and Baha to AAA but really really hard.

6's are too hard to AAA.

igotrhythm 01-17-2007 12:37 PM

Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jimerax (Post 1058445)
yea degraded Synes to high 3.5, below Green Twilight.

I must have played the new version at least 15 times in a row before I got that elusive FC due to the really weird note placement. (Hakulyte once complained about it being the type of song I could beat him at when we played in MP once.) But since I remember pretty well how much I was gnashing my teeth over being unable to combo one part of Domani around the 150 combo point back when I was less skilled, whereas I was able to bang out the Synes FC in a single night of whoring, maybe Synes should be moved down another notch. It's still a 3.5, I'm just saying to move it below Domani.

Shashakiro 01-18-2007 12:24 AM

Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2
 
Requesting Max Forever be moved up...it's harder than CIA Rave IMO, at the very least.

Might be only 150 BPM (basically), but it's insanely long (stamina draining for some) and has long trills.

Doesn't feel like a 4 at all, either...much more like a 4.5.

Doug31 01-18-2007 01:25 AM

Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2
 
I've always thought Caprice should be a 6, although I stopped arguing it long ago. For me, Max Forever is way easier than CIA Rave; I even find it easier to FC, even though it's very much longer. Although, I'm not affected by the stamina factor on it, and CIA Rave is a lot easier for indexers than it is for me, also. Also, add the credit requirement of Summer as 25,000.

Also, I came up with another definition for 6/6:
Songs that barely anyone has FC'd. From looking at the high score lists, it appears to me that all of the now 6/6 songs are the songs that have 10 or less FCs, and the rest of the songs have more. This discounts stuff like chrono, though.

Shashakiro 01-18-2007 01:28 AM

Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2
 
Meh. If anything, do what was done with Caprice: just stick it in the higher difficulty without changing the order.

really feels more like a 4.5 than a 4, that's all.

Doug31 01-18-2007 01:31 AM

Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2
 
I'm sorry, I wasn't very clear. I agree with what was done with Caprice. I'm not sure what to do with max forever though, I think it's fine where it is, but I admit it may be different for other people.

jimerax 01-18-2007 07:07 AM

Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2
 
Length is the only factor that makes MAX Forever harder than CIA for me.

DarkManticoreX2 01-18-2007 07:21 AM

Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2
 
I'd agree with moving max forever to a 4.5. Mainy because of the long trills that CIA doesn't really have. Cia's faster, but its constant stream over the whole song without many breaks. Max has a bunch of breaks which makes it slightly (not much) harder to pa. Lengths already been disussed.

Quote:

Originally Posted by JX
[*] - Songs that is impossible to AAA

I'm sure this is killing the grammar gurus out there.

Tasselfoot 01-18-2007 08:04 AM

Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2
 
CIA Rave is definitely harder... for spread.

jimerax 01-18-2007 08:13 AM

Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2
 
Breaks make it a lot easier for me.

* fixed grammar kthx *

purevil 01-18-2007 03:46 PM

Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2
 
i agree with the list

Doug31 01-18-2007 05:14 PM

Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2
 
You still need to add Summer -Speedy Mix- to the Credit requirement of Secret Songs requiring 25,000.

jimerax 01-18-2007 05:25 PM

Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2
 
added.

jimerax 01-20-2007 10:59 AM

Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2
 
added {Red Alert} to 4.

moches 01-21-2007 09:20 PM

Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2
 
I agree Max Forever is underrated. For people like me, we get tired halfway in then do sucky the rest of the song. Therefore, it should be a low challenging, like Playdoh or Famouz, it deserves a 62 rating.

jimerax 01-22-2007 05:30 AM

Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2
 
added Get Ready to 3.5.
IMO it's between Platypus and Domani though.

and yea like I said if you consider length factor is more important, Max Forever would be 4.5.

Shashakiro 01-22-2007 07:55 AM

Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2
 
You mean Platypus and Domani, lol.

jimerax 01-22-2007 07:57 AM

Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2
 
omg yea *resembles*


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