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TC_Halogen 03-14-2011 09:45 PM

Re: Queue/Batch Discussion Thread v2
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rushyrulz (Post 3434943)
You're kidding right?
EDIT: derp

:p

Not attacking you, Plan. Just felt the need to use some white text.

Mans0n 03-14-2011 09:49 PM

Re: Queue/Batch Discussion Thread v2
 
Anyone have any idea when the special batches are going to be open?

Because I'm making a few songs and am stepping some songs as well, and it would jst be nice to have a time frame if it's not too much to ask

kommisar 03-14-2011 09:53 PM

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new artist batch would be coo. would also encourage people to find more permissons


new simfile artist batch would be interesting, but would taint my lonely stepman heart.......

MarioNintendo 03-14-2011 10:21 PM

Re: Queue/Batch Discussion Thread v2
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by kommisar (Post 3434967)
new artist batch would be coo. would also encourage people to find more permissons


new simfile artist batch would be interesting, but would taint my lonely stepman heart.......

How about both?...

Plan_Bsk81127 03-14-2011 10:24 PM

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Dont think we need more permissions but more charts by the permissions we currently have that dont have any songs in game.

Mans0n 03-14-2011 10:27 PM

Re: Queue/Batch Discussion Thread v2
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Plan_Bsk81127 (Post 3434982)
Dont think we need more permissions but more charts by the permissions we currently have that dont have any songs in game.

Having an excess of music to step is always good so we should always be getting new permissions. But you make a valid point

Plan_Bsk81127 03-14-2011 10:31 PM

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Go check out the artist permission thread and tell me how much pink you see, Im pretty sure there is a pretty big variety to choose from.

Mans0n 03-14-2011 10:33 PM

Re: Queue/Batch Discussion Thread v2
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Plan_Bsk81127 (Post 3434986)
Go check out the artist permission thread and tell me how much pink you see, Im pretty sure there is a pretty big variety to choose from.

But having more never hurts.

cedolad 03-14-2011 10:36 PM

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I'm with what Plan's saying. I mean, look at all the unused Rise permissions we have...All those good bands with 0 songs in game.

MarioNintendo 03-14-2011 10:40 PM

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Problem is, I don't know where to look in that huge list. There are so many artists I don't know where to begin and what I'm missing!

who_cares973 03-14-2011 10:42 PM

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where to begin: pink artist
what you're missing: nothing

Mans0n 03-14-2011 10:57 PM

Re: Queue/Batch Discussion Thread v2
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by who_cares973 (Post 3434998)
what you're missing: nothing

lol

and ffr has a lot of stepfile artists, so if a lot of artists dont have any songs in game yet it's probably for a reason

Ziergdsx18 03-14-2011 11:05 PM

Re: Queue/Batch Discussion Thread v2
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by who_cares973 (Post 3434998)
where to begin: pink artist
what you're missing: nothing

fixed.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mans0n (Post 3434998)
lol

and ffr has a lot of stepfile artists, so if a lot of artists dont have any songs in game yet it's probably for a reason

keep in mind that there are many inactive step artists

qqwref 03-14-2011 11:06 PM

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Yes, and the reason is usually "nobody has gotten around to stepping songs from this artist yet" (and/or: nobody who can get files into the game has gotten around to stepping songs from this artist).

jimerax 03-15-2011 12:58 AM

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New music artist batch = yes
New simfile artist batch = there's no reason for doing that / can't avoid alts, so no

as for borderline files, I'll post the result later.

ps no new songs for this week, sorry.

championanwar 03-15-2011 07:13 AM

Re: Queue/Batch Discussion Thread v2
 
Close the queue!

Mans0n 03-15-2011 10:34 AM

Re: Queue/Batch Discussion Thread v2
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jimerax (Post 3435097)

ps no new songs for this week, sorry.

shit that's what I've been looking forward to :/

so then are you going to release 8 next week? 0.o

rushyrulz 03-15-2011 12:00 PM

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Or the support tokens or somethin ?.?

ichliebekase 03-15-2011 01:42 PM

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Umm...don't you think jimerax has a lot on his plate at the moment? I'm surprised he still gets on when he can. Dedication.

krunkykai22 03-15-2011 01:48 PM

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Yeah, I would imagine he has a lot on his plate since he resides in friggin Tokyo. :(

But, for when he does come back, I do have a question regarding when the Support Tokens will be released.

I was told from someone that they would be unlocked as skill tokens.

One with 50 AAA's in one day is one I heard and some others with Full Combo's and Grand Total Daily Scores. Just wondering if they are going to come out soon or planned for an event.

As well as vROFL, I think that should be released to the public since it IS on token level ranks and cannot be played by some of us who haven't placed in an Official tournament. (Top 8)

Whenever you get around to this Jimerax, no rush, obviously, needed. :) Hope all is well.

customstuff 03-16-2011 10:10 PM

Re: Queue/Batch Discussion Thread v2
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jimerax (Post 3435097)
New music artist batch = yes


Heey guuyyysss. Feel free to step my songs ;)

Ahaha

who_cares973 03-16-2011 10:35 PM

Re: Queue/Batch Discussion Thread v2
 
I always thought the support tokens would be given out for completing the levels in notffron

krunkykai22 03-16-2011 10:38 PM

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I don't know what is going to happen. But, if it is for that, Carlos, than they should tell us lol

EDIT: 4,000th post for me rofl wow.

leonid 03-16-2011 10:48 PM

Re: Queue/Batch Discussion Thread v2
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by who_cares973 (Post 3435950)
I always thought the support tokens would be given out for completing the levels in notffron

Then support tokens will never ever be given out

who_cares973 03-16-2011 11:54 PM

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Js better finish notffron. The only reason I even got as far as I did was for the tokens

jimerax 03-17-2011 03:33 AM

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sry for being late, the votes of borderline files (I had some mistake on the previous post).

(Queue'd)
Passage D - 19/22 (9,1,1)
Nyanyanyanyanyanyanya! - 17/22 (7,3,1)
System Failure - 16/22 (6,4,1)
Fast Asleep - 15/22 (6,3,2)
Fatum Anima - 13/20 (5,3,2)
-----------------------------------------

(Conditional Queue'd)
Aim Burst - 13/22 (5,3,3) - song cut is required.
Distorted God - 13/22 (4,5,2) - fix hand placement.
=========================================

(Not Queue'd)
Frog's Theme - 11/22 (4,3,4)
Illumination - 10/22 (4,2,5)
Try Harder - 10/22 (3,4,4)
Cybertron - 10/22 (3,4,4)
NaiNai69 - 10/22 (4,2,5)
He's a Pirate - 7/22 (1,5,5)

For conditional queue'd files.. fixed dwi should be sent to the submission e-mail.
If it's ok, it will be queue'd.

who_cares973 03-17-2011 04:07 AM

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Only. Reason I didn't accept he's a pirate is because if it got queued it wasn't going to get fixed

jimerax 03-17-2011 04:17 AM

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We already have megamon's version (shorter) in the queue, and mario's didn't get queue'd this time.

so we'll just release megamon's.

kjwkjw 03-17-2011 04:17 AM

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Nyanyanyanyanyanyanya! is in !_!

Yayyyyyyyyy

leonid 03-17-2011 04:26 AM

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nubs hatin' on hands xd

who_cares973 03-17-2011 06:03 AM

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Tone'em down mang :I

bmah 03-17-2011 06:06 AM

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It felt quite iidx-ish, which I liked, but not everyone does. And certainly may not have the same effect with four arrows.


Also, there are STILL several people (at least three) sending in files. Just a reminder: you cannot send in files at this time.

Plan_Bsk81127 03-17-2011 06:55 AM

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10/22, sweet :D

krunkykai22 03-17-2011 07:02 AM

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10/22 wtf? That's an amazing score!!! :O

~Zero~ 03-17-2011 07:31 AM

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I think I have fixed enough of System Split to keep me and most of the judges happy... Where do I send the file, same email?

Plan_Bsk81127 03-17-2011 09:13 AM

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Im not going to worry about my file being rejected too much atm, I'll fix things up when the artist releases the full version of the song, might be better then.

who_cares973 03-17-2011 09:14 AM

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I loved system split don't change it D:!!!

MarioNintendo 03-17-2011 09:42 AM

Re: Queue/Batch Discussion Thread v2
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jimerax (Post 3436100)
We already have megamon's version (shorter) in the queue, and mario's didn't get queue'd this time.

so we'll just release megamon's.

Didn't you say you didn't mind if they were both in game? I was definitely sending it as a resubmit next batch!

leonid 03-17-2011 09:44 AM

Re: Queue/Batch Discussion Thread v2
 
Release all songs at once and open the next batch in the beginning of 2012

who_cares973 03-17-2011 09:45 AM

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I liked aim burst as is x:


You were going to replace megamons file that was queued. You failed to do so before the song was release so now you won't have a chance. If the song warrants a v2 and if your file is different enogub you could resubmit yours as a v2

MarioNintendo 03-17-2011 09:49 AM

Re: Queue/Batch Discussion Thread v2
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by who_cares973 (Post 3436156)
I liked aim burst as is x:


You were going to replace megamons file that was queued. You failed to do so before the song was release so now you won't have a chance. If the song warrants a v2 and if your file is different enogub you could resubmit yours as a v2

He's a quote from JX's review about the file:

"I personally prefer [your] ver by a bit more, but both versions can co-exist imo if it gets accepted."

Now, now, that sounded like they were different enough to warrant a v2, no? What else can this mean?

jimerax 03-17-2011 09:52 AM

Re: Queue/Batch Discussion Thread v2
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ~Zero~ (Post 3436129)
Where do I send the file, same email?

yes.

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrPopadopalis25 (Post 3436150)
Aim Burst needs a song cut? But I was trying to go for the whole marathon-y sort of deal. ;_;

Considering we already have a few sharpnel marathon songs, it wasn't a very successful attempt and repetitive.

Quote:

Originally Posted by MarioNintendo (Post 3436154)
Didn't you say you didn't mind if they were both in game?

Your version wasn't accepted this time. If it was accepted, both could be in the game (needs discussion with judges though).

who_cares973 03-17-2011 09:52 AM

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I never played megamons so I wouldn't know from camparing the two I'm just giving you straight iinformation regarding the matter. Not saying your file was worse or not different enough or anything

MarioNintendo 03-17-2011 09:58 AM

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Ah, that freaking stinks! No second chance, I didn't know that.

I'll send it anyway as a resubmit. I might have even less chance of getting it in, but I liked it enough to push my luck. It's already completely fixed, I mean, it could've been in conditional, for that matter... ahh, *grumble*.

EDIT: instead of whining about my bad luck, I'll just ask this in the same post: does an artist that has 1 song in queue (or in game, if that changes anything) still considered as new?

iironiic 03-17-2011 09:59 AM

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I have fixes for Passage D as well. I'll send it later today.

qqwref 03-17-2011 11:39 AM

Re: Queue/Batch Discussion Thread v2
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MrPopadopalis25 (Post 3436150)
Aim Burst needs a song cut? But I was trying to go for the whole marathon-y sort of deal. ;_;

Judges don't like long solid JS files, even though FFR definitely needs a few more of them. I guess it comes from playing SM for too long. I personally like Aim Burst as it is.

bmah 03-17-2011 11:45 AM

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I personally would like to have seen the full song, but if you're doing a cut, don't do a fade-out. Cut whatever portions of the song is excessive. Fade-out (and nothing else) is the lazy way of cutting a song.

rushyrulz 03-17-2011 12:19 PM

Re: Queue/Batch Discussion Thread v2
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Plan_Bsk81127 (Post 3436121)
10/22, sweet :D

I also got 10/22.


kommisar 03-17-2011 12:27 PM

Re: Queue/Batch Discussion Thread v2
 
There is a way to make JS interesting, but 3 minutes of it is hardly the way to do so. Good JS patterns that flow take a lot of planning and structure, especially at higher bpms.

bmah 03-17-2011 06:24 PM

Re: Queue/Batch Discussion Thread v2
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MrPopadopalis25 (Post 3436190)
Yeah, I wouldn't do a fade-out cut. I can't really figure out what to cut out though...everything ends up sounding choppy or it goes offsync. @_@

I've spent about 1.5hrs cutting the song for you. The hard part is that each section of the song transitions slightly differently, making otherwise simple editing more difficult. Regardless, I've preserved much of the song's variation. All in all, chopped off just over a minute of the song. Check your PM.

jimerax 03-18-2011 07:07 AM

Re: Queue/Batch Discussion Thread v2
 
For now you can only send fixes of queue'd files.

a few more comments on conditional files.

[Aim Burst]
I say songcut isn't mandatory if you can avoid repetitiveness more without it (I think it's by far the most effective way though).
Also, I think long JS/streams in that file don't match the song too well.

[Distorted God]
some hands/quads are put on not very intense parts, or make some awkward patterns.
also putting constant triplet 16ths on hihats isn't a very good way imo,

For other borderline/queue'd files, I think most files have room for improvement too.
Getting a file on the queue isn't really a goal, so keep up the good work on files.

Xayphon 03-18-2011 09:04 AM

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Do we need to name the folder something like "[Fix]>Nameoffile<(simartist)" then?

And is the simfile going to be rejudged and replaced with the already queued file?


I'll get to some pattern fixtures and such right now

qqwref 03-18-2011 10:00 AM

Re: Queue/Batch Discussion Thread v2
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jimerax (Post 3436739)
For other borderline/queue'd files, I think most files have room for improvement too.

Every file that doesn't receive multiple [++]s has room for improvement. If you think a queued file should be fixed up before being ingame, you should put it in the conditional queue - that's what it's for. If you don't, there's a pretty good chance it won't get fixed. Keep in mind that conditional queue is basically "semi-rejected", i.e. if the file doesn't get fixed properly it will never get into the game. So a full reject is basically saying "even with fixes this wouldn't be suitable for the game".

Quote:

Originally Posted by jimerax (Post 3436739)
Getting a file on the queue isn't really a goal

What do you mean by this?


Also, I'm wondering what's the deal with judges being so harsh about these borderline files. How is a file getting like 15-16/20 and then having almost half of the judges say "there is no way this belongs in the game, even if you fixed all the problems"? Something's really wrong here.

jimerax 03-18-2011 10:01 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Xayphon (Post 3436759)
Do we need to name the folder something like "[Fix]>Nameoffile<(simartist)" then?

Yes, that's clear (also the e-mail title and file name).

Quote:

Originally Posted by Xayphon (Post 3436759)
And is the simfile going to be rejudged and replaced with the already queued file?

The file will be quick-reviewed, but usually it will be just replaced.
If you make really big change on the file and it causes some issues, the fix can be refused.

qqwref: I meant simfilers should keep polishing the file until it is released, as far as possible.
The goal is getting positive opinions for your file(s) from many people, not just from judges.
If a queue'd file has objectively serious issues (dropped notes, syncing, huge difficulty spikes, severe PR errors etc), it will be moved to conditional, otherwise it won't usually.

Xayphon 03-18-2011 12:41 PM

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Alright thank you

Sent a Fix of Fast Asleep

bmah 03-18-2011 01:19 PM

Re: Queue/Batch Discussion Thread v2
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jimerax (Post 3436739)
[Aim Burst]
I say songcut isn't mandatory if you can avoid repetitiveness more without it (I think it's by far the most effective way though).

Agreed completely on the patterns. I've already cut the song for him, and it still sounds great however, so I think it'll be easier for him to make things less repetitive.

ichliebekase 03-18-2011 02:46 PM

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So thanks to bmah and TC_Halogen for the complete overhaul of -Glorious Morning- and when I say complete overhaul, I mean sitting for hours on AIM with bmah and AJ probably spending hours on a full BPM fix that was even beyond his imagination. Literally took the song and chart, turned it inside-out and got it fixed. Simfile surgery. We'll find out soon enough if it was successful.

So since no one is answering this question and now I'd like it answered, I'll quote it.

Quote:

Originally Posted by MarioNintendo (Post 3436161)
does an artist that has 1 song in queue (or in game, if that changes anything) still considered as new?

Waterflame has nothing in game at the moment but [I think] they might have 1 in queue to go in. Would that still consider them new and be eligible for the new artist batch?

x_lambourghini_x 03-18-2011 03:23 PM

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Just a question, I don't know if it relates to this thread, but, when will we be expecting this week's songs to come out? I mean it is almost Saturday, so they are coming soon, right?

Plan_Bsk81127 03-18-2011 03:27 PM

Re: Queue/Batch Discussion Thread v2
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by x_lambourghini_x (Post 3436873)
Just a question, I don't know if it relates to this thread, but, when will we be expecting this week's songs to come out? I mean it is almost Saturday, so they are coming soon, right?

There isnt any songs of the week for this week.

kommisar 03-18-2011 03:29 PM

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I think we've all been preoccupied with other things to worry about getting new songs out on time =x

AsphyxZero 03-21-2011 12:40 AM

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fucen shit

I think I'm stepping binedump for the next batch B)

who_cares973 03-21-2011 02:03 AM

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Don't do if man.....

Mans0n 03-21-2011 09:59 AM

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My file is already pretty much ready for the batch when it opens.

Sweet_Feet 03-25-2011 04:18 PM

Re: Queue/Batch Discussion Thread v2
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mans0n (Post 3438311)
My file is already pretty much ready for the batch when it opens.

Speaking of.. any idea or estimate of when the next batch will open?

bmah 03-25-2011 04:29 PM

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dunno

Mans0n 03-25-2011 06:56 PM

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Not sure about when the next batch is, but All i can say now is, I hope it isn't anytime that soon. Because due to windows 7 issues I need to RE step the songs I charted.

Ziergdsx18 03-25-2011 07:03 PM

Re: Queue/Batch Discussion Thread v2
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mans0n (Post 3440563)
Not sure about when the next batch is, but All i can say now is, I hope it isn't anytime that soon. Because due to windows 7 issues I need to RE step the songs I charted.

You should consider making backups of WIP's or files you finished, like copying them to external hard drives for example. That's what I always do just in case my laptop decides to shit on me. You can never be to careful you know xd

Mans0n 03-25-2011 07:04 PM

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Good advice, Will do in the future. Though my problem was I Guess i wasn't running Stepmania as an administrator when I stepped my songs, so it it wouldn't save them for some reason.

Plan_Bsk81127 03-25-2011 07:13 PM

Re: Queue/Batch Discussion Thread v2
 
open your SM program folder and at the top go to Compatibility files and then the song folder, should be in there.

Coolboyrulez0 03-25-2011 07:56 PM

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Also move stepmania OUT of Program Files. That fixes it.

DossarLX ODI 03-30-2011 07:55 PM

Re: Queue/Batch Discussion Thread v2
 
Just sent in some minor fixes for Metro for improved pattern fluency

who_cares973 03-30-2011 11:55 PM

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Still gay

i love you 03-31-2011 12:00 AM

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lol...

qqwref 03-31-2011 12:48 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by who_cares973 (Post 3443728)
Still gay

just wait till homosexual love scene gets ingame ...gay in the literal sense

but seriously, metro isn't going to stop being hard or by terminal 11 - you'll just have to learn to not play it :p

bmah 03-31-2011 01:03 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by qqwref (Post 3443756)
just wait till homosexual love scene gets ingame ...gay in the literal sense

(Klonoa voice): wahoo!

Ziergdsx18 03-31-2011 01:21 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by who_cares973 (Post 3443728)
Still gay

U mean GAYM ;)

who_cares973 03-31-2011 02:04 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by qqwref (Post 3443756)
just wait till homosexual love scene gets ingame ...gay in the literal sense
but seriously, metro isn't going to stop being hard or by terminal 11 - you'll just have to learn to not play it :p

I helped with the colour association in that file :o)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ziergdsx18 (Post 3443772)
U mean GAYM ;)

Nope I mean gay

Niala 03-31-2011 10:38 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by qqwref (Post 3443756)
just wait till homosexual love scene gets ingame ...gay in the literal sense

In yo' FFR's. Homo'in yo' shit up. ;D


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