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Shashakiro 12-9-2006 09:37 PM

Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dronak (Post 1029094)
So how much is playing style (one hand, two hand, index, etc.) factored in to these difficulty ratings? Your statement seems to indicate that it is considered. But how? I can think of a few possible ways, so I'm wondering what's actually done. Thanks.

Not saying it's considered per se (otherwise Pants and EHHS would be far higher, and Strangeprogram/AIM Anthem a bit lower), but it's just that indexable stream is easier than non-indexable stream, for all styles.

Dronak 12-9-2006 11:07 PM

Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Shashakiro (Post 1029414)
it's just that indexable stream is easier than non-indexable stream, for all styles.

I suppose that makes sense. If the stream can be hit well with just two fingers, it shouldn't be *that* bad with three or four fingers. I imagine it's too much work to do, but it might be interesting to see the songs ranked differently based on different (common) playing styles.

Thanks again to everyone making this list. While I'm not a great player, the basic order looks generally right to me, and it's good to have this information. The detailed placements of individual songs I leave to the experts to determine. :)

boudoun2me 12-9-2006 11:28 PM

Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2
 
nova pulser is fine where it is

boudoun2me 12-9-2006 11:30 PM

Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2
 
x dreamer should be moved down also

dore 12-9-2006 11:30 PM

Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2
 
Indexable stream tends to flow better, except for trills. Although that's not really stream in the traditional sense...

boudoun2me 12-9-2006 11:33 PM

Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2
 
i think wish needs to go to 4.5. it's barely harder then hanabi, and i dont think it should be given that much credit

dore 12-9-2006 11:36 PM

Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2
 
Use the edit button please.

Shashakiro 12-9-2006 11:43 PM

Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by boudoun2me (Post 1029606)
i think wish needs to go to 4.5. it's barely harder then hanabi, and i dont think it should be given that much credit

No. Just...no. Hanabi is stream with basically no jumps, Wish is stream with jumpy patterns. Wish is WAY harder.

jimerax 12-10-2006 12:11 AM

Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2
 
EtaD = low 4.5 ... Jumpstreams are long enough to get a difficulty.
Wish = low 5 ... Because of jump(stream)s in the entire song.

Things about new songs I just thought.
- TGWP 1, 3 and 5 are closer in difficulty (speed, PA, FC) than the list.
- Torinouta might be high 4.5, since many people suck at it since 32nds/64ths are somewhat jacky. Hard to tell which is harder compared to FOL or P4U though. Not 5 because it doesn't need sequential speed.

Shashakiro 12-10-2006 12:39 AM

Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2
 
1 > 3 > 5...by how much is hard to tell, though I think 1 and 3 are closer than 3 and 5.

Tasselfoot 12-10-2006 07:36 AM

Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2
 
its sad... 1 is actually the easiest of the 3 for me to FC. I get messed up by the stream around 800 in 5, plus the 5 sets of mini jumpjacks... 3, i forget what is hard about it. 1, I know exactly where the jacks are, and there is only 1 really hard set.

*shrugs* i still recognize that 1 is the hardest of the 3.

boudoun2me 12-10-2006 09:20 PM

Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2
 
Shash you AAA'd AIM?!?!?!?

Doug31 12-10-2006 09:29 PM

Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2
 
For me, part 1 is the hardest part by far, since the jacks in it really screw me up, but I'm not sure about the rest. Also, this isn't the right topic to talk about what scores someone got.

Tasselfoot 12-10-2006 09:30 PM

Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2
 
i put Coat Czech between EA and JRB... I'd go with high 4.5, 66-67. Not all that hard to FC, but can be a bit hard with the jack issue throughout the song... PAing is a bit tricky, IMO.

Doug31 12-10-2006 09:51 PM

Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2
 
I also think it should be 4.5, and I'd put it as a 67, maybe between Uber Rave and Rondo Alla Turca. I found it quite difficult to PA the jacks and streams with the green notes, but I didn't have that much trouble FCing it.

jimerax 12-11-2006 05:50 AM

Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2
 
Coat is easier than Torinouta, not pretty sure compared to Tribal or 2003.

Between EA and JRB is right.

Doug31 12-14-2006 04:25 PM

Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2
 
Okay then, since I always seem to get these, wrong, time to get another one incorrect. I'd say Come With Me is a 15.

Tasselfoot 12-14-2006 07:53 PM

Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2
 
a 15? lol. out of 6?

but, yea... 1.5, which is what we figured BEFORE the song was even stepped... dore did a good job of meeting what we expected. 14-15, IMO.

jimerax 12-15-2006 03:57 AM

Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2
 
I'll rate 12 FFRmas songs after they are all released.

Ingame ratings are correct now, at least.

ffdfadsdasd 12-15-2006 02:10 PM

Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2
 
You're crazy, pants should be in Guru's only.


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