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T-Force 04-9-2022 05:05 PM

Re: Song Corrections Thread
 
- 'Zephon' by DJ Sharpnel should be titled 'World Sound'.

- 'Legend of Zelda Remix' by The Rabbit Joint should be titled 'Rabbit Joint Cover' (https://ocremix.org/remix/OCR00022)

- 'SuperMario 8bit Eighties Remix' by Injury and Koji Kondo should be titled '8-bit Eighties' (https://ocremix.org/remix/OCR00428)

- 'Crystalis - House Leaves (Long)' by SNK remixed by Neostorm and 'Crystalis - House Leaves (Remix)' by SNK remixed by Neostorm should be renamed to 'House Leaves' and 'House Leaves [Cut]' respectively. As well, to maintain consistency with other songs of similar ilk, the artist should be Neostorm and Yoko Osaka, or just Neostorm. (https://ocremix.org/remix/OCR00734)
If the latter change occurs, then 8-bit Eighties should just be credited to Injury.

- 'Bubble Bobble Hillbilly Rodeo' by djpretzel should be titled 'Hillbilly Rodeo'. As well, if you want to keep the trend of remixer followed by the composer, the artist should also read djpretzel and Tadashi Kimijima. (https://ocremix.org/remix/OCR00015)

XelNya 04-9-2022 06:48 PM

Re: Song Corrections Thread
 
Just checked, The Frozen Bond requirement

Get at least 2 average-misses on "Improvisation et Chien" while keeping your averages, boos, and misses all the same number and pass it to unlock Frozen Bond.

Should be reworded to

Pass "Improvisation et Chien" with 0 Goods, 2 Averages, 2 Misses & 2 Boos, while keeping your Averages, Misses, and Boos all the same number to unlock Frozen Bond.

Is probably the only miss on the rework that I care about currently. I get the idea was to reference the old glitch due to it being particularly noted here, but a new player would just get confused here, especially even with the history, the boo count is also the same for some reason.

jh05013 04-9-2022 07:32 PM

Re: Song Corrections Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by T-Force (Post 4777034)
- 'Legend of Zelda Remix' by The Rabbit Joint should be titled 'Rabbit Joint Cover' (https://ocremix.org/remix/OCR00022)

The original title is 'Zelda'. It was first released in the author's own album, and posted to OCRemix 2 years later: https://summervillains.bandcamp.com/...e-rabbit-joint

jacobvl39 04-10-2022 09:22 AM

Re: Song Corrections Thread
 
Not sure if this is the right thread for it, but I think Fill Me Up With Snacky Happiness should have an [explicit] tag

gold stinger 04-10-2022 10:12 AM

Re: Song Corrections Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jacobvl39 (Post 4777044)
Not sure if this is the right thread for it, but I think Fill Me Up With Snacky Happiness should have an [explicit] tag

This is the right thread for it.

[Explicit] tag is reserved for songs that contain swearing or lyrics that are 18+. Since this song contains no lyrics, it might be a little bit hard to push for an [Explicit] tag here unless people think it should extend to suggestive sounds. Slashmaid notably falls within this same group.

Quote:

Originally Posted by jh05013 (Post 4777038)
The original title is 'Zelda'. It was first released in the author's own album, and posted to OCRemix 2 years later: https://summervillains.bandcamp.com/...e-rabbit-joint

Quote:

Originally Posted by T-Force (Post 4777034)
- 'Zephon' by DJ Sharpnel should be titled 'World Sound'.

- 'Legend of Zelda Remix' by The Rabbit Joint should be titled 'Rabbit Joint Cover' (https://ocremix.org/remix/OCR00022)

- 'SuperMario 8bit Eighties Remix' by Injury and Koji Kondo should be titled '8-bit Eighties' (https://ocremix.org/remix/OCR00428)

- 'Crystalis - House Leaves (Long)' by SNK remixed by Neostorm and 'Crystalis - House Leaves (Remix)' by SNK remixed by Neostorm should be renamed to 'House Leaves' and 'House Leaves [Cut]' respectively. As well, to maintain consistency with other songs of similar ilk, the artist should be Neostorm and Yoko Osaka, or just Neostorm. (https://ocremix.org/remix/OCR00734)
If the latter change occurs, then 8-bit Eighties should just be credited to Injury.

- 'Bubble Bobble Hillbilly Rodeo' by djpretzel should be titled 'Hillbilly Rodeo'. As well, if you want to keep the trend of remixer followed by the composer, the artist should also read djpretzel and Tadashi Kimijima. (https://ocremix.org/remix/OCR00015)

I'm good with changing House Leaves after listening to both of them. Same with Hillbilly Rodeo. Zephon can be done as well, but needs re-naming for Token content.

I would want more community input on 'Legend of Zelda Remix' and 'SuperMario 8bit Eighties Remix' before seeing them changed.

Again, same reason as seeking change on Molto Vivace. These are already Legacy songs hidden from the public. Changing their names will drastically change how players will find said songs, and internet indexing of said songs (incl. google searching). For some Legacy songs, FFR is the only place to have said song. If most of you that care to give feedback on this agree with a change, I'm down for it, just things that should be cautiously thought about.

Quote:

Originally Posted by XelNya (Post 4777037)
Just checked, The Frozen Bond requirement

Get at least 2 average-misses on "Improvisation et Chien" while keeping your averages, boos, and misses all the same number and pass it to unlock Frozen Bond.

Should be reworded to

Pass "Improvisation et Chien" with 0 Goods, 2 Averages, 2 Misses & 2 Boos, while keeping your Averages, Misses, and Boos all the same number to unlock Frozen Bond.

Is probably the only miss on the rework that I care about currently. I get the idea was to reference the old glitch due to it being particularly noted here, but a new player would just get confused here, especially even with the history, the boo count is also the same for some reason.

Fixed.

Quote:

Originally Posted by trumaestro (Post 4777032)
Should maybe distinguish BEER! and BEER. Would make BEER! [Psychostick] and BEER [Is-m]

Would also then need to update the token text for BEER [Is-m]

Also suggest listing out the songs required to unlock You Gotta B-E-E-R! in its token requirement

Sure. Will get this done today.

trumaestro 04-10-2022 03:24 PM

Re: Song Corrections Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by gold stinger (Post 4777045)
This is the right thread for it.

[Explicit] tag is reserved for songs that contain swearing or lyrics that are 18+. Since this song contains no lyrics, it might be a little bit hard to push for an [Explicit] tag here unless people think it should extend to suggestive sounds. Slashmaid notably falls within this same group.

The explicit tag is woefully under-utilized and not an ideal solution. More ideal imo would be like the Legacy genre but that's a separate discussion.

It does make sense to expand its use to include suggestive audio like in Snacky Happiness or Slashmaid or Manhattan Lover etc. That'd be in line with the "PG-13" level the site has always maintained.

Labelling every necessary song with an explicit tag represents a pretty major project. It's been brought up a few times in the past (most recently was probably here). It'd be nice to see but not urgently needed.

Quote:

Originally Posted by gold stinger (Post 4777045)
I would want more community input on 'Legend of Zelda Remix' and 'SuperMario 8bit Eighties Remix' before seeing them changed.

Again, same reason as seeking change on Molto Vivace. These are already Legacy songs hidden from the public. Changing their names will drastically change how players will find said songs, and internet indexing of said songs (incl. google searching). For some Legacy songs, FFR is the only place to have said song. If most of you that care to give feedback on this agree with a change, I'm down for it, just things that should be cautiously thought about.

FFR should still align its credit with whatever the artist has intended re:title. I don't really buy the fact that they're legacy files as a reason to keep them incorrectly attributed. Zelda and 8bit Eighties are good to change to, as T-Force brought up.

For Molto, you can maybe compromise by renaming it "Transcendental Etude No. 2 (Molto Vivace)" if others feel it's important to keep the "Molto Vivace." But to me that seems clunky. I think a rename to "Transcendental Etude No. 2" is fine. The fact that it's in the legacy genre is enough for folks to find it.

Zlyice 04-10-2022 08:19 PM

Re: Song Corrections Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by trumaestro (Post 4777048)
The explicit tag is woefully under-utilized and not an ideal solution. More ideal imo would be like the Legacy genre but that's a separate discussion.

It does make sense to expand its use to include suggestive audio like in Snacky Happiness or Slashmaid or Manhattan Lover etc. That'd be in line with the "PG-13" level the site has always maintained.

I agree that the explicit tag would be well used in these scenarios. I think Pervs and The Epidemic of Unexpected Relapses should also be on this list.


Quote:

Originally Posted by trumaestro (Post 4777048)
FFR should still align its credit with whatever the artist has intended re:title. I don't really buy the fact that they're legacy files as a reason to keep them incorrectly attributed. Zelda and 8bit Eighties are good to change to, as T-Force brought up.

Agreed here too that titles of legacy files should be changed to make sure they are properly attributed. With all of the files that have had their titles fixed lately (some of which that are now under a correct title that is entirely distinct from what it was historically titled on FFR), I feel like legacy files should be receiving the same treatment.

jh05013 04-10-2022 11:02 PM

Re: Song Corrections Thread
 
Forgot to mention this earlier, but Zelda doesn't actually have the Yoshi bonus round. idk what to do with it lol

EDIT: S (without Venetian Snares) should be renamed to S [Y.W].

Snupeh 04-11-2022 04:07 AM

Re: Song Corrections Thread
 
Note that if they are a token, or if they are mentioned in the token unlock requirements, these changes must also be made on the token pages as well.

gold stinger 04-13-2022 11:27 AM

Re: Song Corrections Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by trumaestro (Post 4777048)
The explicit tag is woefully under-utilized and not an ideal solution. More ideal imo would be like the Legacy genre but that's a separate discussion.

To have a bit of this discussion, I've asked about the feasibility of adding another genre to filter Legacy like it currently is but runs into two (three) issues.

(1) Zero backwards compatibility to previous engines (if you're not WirryWoo skip this)

(2) Requires an engine update (currently going through repo hell atm if you are on-top of the MP re-write)

(3) Requires a database website-side update (I've been told it's impossible currently but it's more likely that there are multiple road blocks here where if done incorrectly, would cause another 2018 score purge so there's mostly fearmongering here).

Hence the workaround of just using an [Explicit] tag since that's a relatively simple text edit that doesn't require multiple devs and screaming ape noises.

Quote:

Originally Posted by jh05013 (Post 4777056)
EDIT: S (without Venetian Snares) should be renamed to S [Y.W].

gotchu fam

XelNya 04-13-2022 01:14 PM

Re: Song Corrections Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by gold stinger (Post 4777083)
To have a bit of this discussion, I've asked about the feasibility of adding another genre to filter Legacy like it currently is but runs into two (three) issues.

(1) Zero backwards compatibility to previous engines (if you're not WirryWoo skip this)

(2) Requires an engine update (currently going through repo hell atm if you are on-top of the MP re-write)

(3) Requires a database website-side update (I've been told it's impossible currently but it's more likely that there are multiple road blocks here where if done incorrectly, would cause another 2018 score purge so there's mostly fearmongering here).

Hence the workaround of just using an [Explicit] tag since that's a relatively simple text edit that doesn't require multiple devs and screaming ape noises.



gotchu fam

It would just be easier to add the "Explicit" tag to any song with one of the "gamer" words, and leave the rest alone. I'd further concede the idea that maybe removing them from public ranks is a path the site can take to make dodging those works avoidable for those who want to, but anything further would be heinous overkill.

Though, I'd probably add Slashmaid to the list just because of the type of song it is, and TBH that being played with no knowledge, I can see the issues that might come up given folks stream the game, or play without headphones on. (In case someone is reading this and are unaware - a girl is getting just fucked throughout the whole song with some rock / metal elements in the background. It's a weird piece. It might be bannable on a streaming site if it got brought up to them.)

tldr I just wanna say I think the guy suggesting the other changes rn is being silly. But maybe taking a site consensus to which songs deserve the tag might be more productive.

jh05013 04-14-2022 11:14 AM

Re: Song Corrections Thread
 
The author Shiki should be capitalized as SHIKI. (this doesn't apply to Emotional Adventure since that's a different author)

Ghost_Medley 04-17-2022 12:14 PM

Re: Song Corrections Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by DossarLX ODI
So it turns out the original title for Husigi Usagi Milk Tei is フシギ☆ウサギ☆ミルク☆テイ from 2007. It is Yuuyu's remix of his own 2006 work which was titled フシギモノガタリ, or Fushigi Monotagari/"Wonderful Things". Google Translate roughly translates Husigi Usagi Milk Tei to "The Mystifying Rabbit" in english.

I recalled this, and I wanted some clarification on why the title of the file in-game uses "Husigi" and not "Fushigi". "フシギ" is maintained between both song titles, so the romaji transliteration should be the latter, right?

gold stinger 04-17-2022 01:58 PM

Re: Song Corrections Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jh05013 (Post 4777100)
The author Shiki should be capitalized as SHIKI. (this doesn't apply to Emotional Adventure since that's a different author)

Fixed.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ghost_Medley (Post 4777136)
I recalled this, and I wanted some clarification on why the title of the file in-game uses "Husigi" and not "Fushigi". "フシギ" is maintained between both song titles, so the romaji transliteration should be the latter, right?

Ehh, why not.

edit: actually did small researching, it's because the original mp3 references 'husigi'. https://web.archive.org/web/20071001...usigi_bb_2.mp3

I changed it anyways, but debate welcome.

jh05013 04-18-2022 02:00 AM

Re: Song Corrections Thread
 
R8U Another should be titled just R8U. "Another" is a BMS difficulty label.

EDIT: seems fixed now. Thanks!

Laplace 04-24-2022 03:14 AM

Re: Song Corrections Thread
 
Not quite a song correction, but trumaestro told me to bring it up here.

The tokens pertaining to average song rank seem to go off the average rank displayed at the bottom of levelranks rather than the average rank displayed on the profile, which I think should be made more clear in the token description if possible.

Skayles 05-2-2022 08:20 AM

Re: Song Corrections Thread
 
Can we add the seasons to these Blitz alunar tracks so they're the same as their official titles (as shown literally anywhere you search for these tracks on the "Blips Lunar" album)

"Super Soaker [Summer]"
"Heavenly Spores [Autumn]"
"The Labyrinth Of Skadi [Winter]"

if and when Sapling is accepted, it should be "Sapling [Spring]"

gold stinger 05-2-2022 10:28 AM

Re: Song Corrections Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Skayles (Post 4778161)
Can we add the seasons to these Blitz alunar tracks so they're the same as their official titles (as shown literally anywhere you search for these tracks on the "Blips Lunar" album)

"Super Soaker [Summer]"
"Heavenly Spores [Autumn]"
"The Labyrinth Of Skadi [Winter]"

if and when Sapling is accepted, it should be "Sapling [Spring]"

Interesting debate to be had with these, because ONLY the "Blips Lunar" album does this.

All of the original albums that were responsible for each individual songs release does not do this:

Heavenly Spores - Autumntunes
Sapling - Equilibrium
Super Soaker - Summertunes
The Labyrinth of Skadi - Wintertunes

Skayles 05-2-2022 11:59 AM

Re: Song Corrections Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by gold stinger (Post 4778164)
Interesting debate to be had with these, because ONLY the "Blips Lunar" album does this.

All of the original albums that were responsible for each individual songs release does not do this:

Heavenly Spores - Autumntunes
Sapling - Equilibrium
Super Soaker - Summertunes
The Labyrinth of Skadi - Wintertunes

Ah, i didn't know (or atleast forgot) that they were from previous albums. They should stay as is without the season tags, then.
(also it's such a lmfao moment that "Springtunes" doesn't even feature BL...)

jacobvl39 05-7-2022 06:03 PM

Re: Song Corrections Thread
 
I recommend that Hungarian Dance No. 7 be moved to Legacy due to its severe sync issues.


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