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you bet your ass I'm watching cringey videos when I wake up and come to the thread tomorrow so I can be pissed off because you're not getting off easy dude

it wouldn't even be that hard to comment on the small things I said but yeah, you got run around, you can't talk about things you're supposed to believe in anymore because you're tired I get it

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RFUCKNING

DUDE SAID HE WASNED ME TO RESPOND TO HIS CASE
LIKE HE WAS READY TO TALK TO ME

BITCH DIDN'T KNOW I WAS GONNA BRING FIRE
GOTTA CLAIM TO BE TIRED

get the fuck out, dude

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this entire response feels so fabricated if im being honest with myself.

like ok you have 4 votes. your mad. i get it. but your acting like there isnt 22 hours till eod. feels like your trying to get people off of you by pure force, which i guess is something else i can look for when i go back thru the last game.

whatevs

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lol

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part of it is because I'm mad I lost on DM not gonna lie

part of it is because your case is terrible and lito's case is terrible but I can't ever tell him that because he literally doesn't give a fuck about playing TWG using reads except when it suits him

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well you have a point, i do owe it to you to put forth the work if im going to vote you and call you out

brb making post

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you can't respond to anything I'm saying other than correct a small (admittedly unimportant) mistake you made

you're commenting on this shit saying its funny

you're nto even saying the right shit is funny the thing about the NFL was gold and I know it

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GOOD

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I;m mad no one else is here
I'm mad Charu left though maybe not maybe he would just taunt me some more

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lol before i go tho its like your daring me to just leaving my vote on you

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CHARU
YELL AT FREEZIN WITH ME

I know you see how bad his post on me was

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I think it's kind of 180, yeah.

Also, sorry for delayed responses.

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I think him going after you and dropping me completely was completely weird.

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Like "what the hell is this" weird.

I didn't say anything because I was expecting to say he was joking or something.

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you will die if you continue to push me
I am town this game, and my posts are not at all like last games and I KNOW it
you will look bad if you continue this push on me regardless of your alignment, but considering not a SINGLE FUCKING THING you said was a fact, I'm inclined to think you're a wolf

you can look at my posts and see that I progressively realized just how shitty your case on me was instead of reacting right away like I did when AA et al called me out last game

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Waiting for that post too now, by the way.

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look at this Freezin
this is why people have a hard time taking you at face value
because this is something you would do

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Thing is, I don't even know what he's calling out about you.

Like... I don't recall anything except early game.

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Nooooooo D:
I even edited the one I made last game that said "I'm a WOLF" to make it say "I'm NOT a WOLF" for this game T-T

Sunfan I call dibs on the next one dude and it's going to be one of these two MSPaint avatars I spent time on just for you, depending on how I'm reading you the next time you ask

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@sunfan you could just ask again lol tradition doesn't dictate how long you have to keep the avatar for ;)

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lol dude

i do 180s when i think my current train of thought is incorrect. im not going to keep plowing ahead if i think im wrong

unless its that time i going after aa but was conspiring to push him into the next day cause i thought he was town

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your acting like its impossible for me to be wrong if im town.

thats incorrect and you dont have to look past 1 hour ago to see that.

but i dont think im wrong about you atm

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played one time and while he is correct that he modded a game where I wolfed proph wasn't my partner

I think I can say from an objective standpoint I have not been overtly neutral this game.
The only nullread I can remember giving was on Charu who it is known that I can't read on d0 when I'm town (one of the biggest mistakes I made last game was reading Charu on d0 when I'm not supposed to be able to do that) and maybe something on mellon early on idr exactly.

literally uncomparably different from last game in terms of neutrality.


The cheapest shot in the book when the person you're talking about has over 100 posts in a phase and there's 24 hours left.

I have a life fucking lynch me for it.
^you literally can't think that Freezin believes this. Say what you will about FreezinIce as a player but no player that doesn't live in a meta submarine like Haku does that my activity has been alignment indicative this phase.


I said this earlier
tunneled DBP literally to death last game
I
GOT
TOWN
DBP
LYNCHED
because of how hard I tunneled him

no one remembers the last time DBP was mislynched before last game because I'm pretty sure it was the fucking flame wars game because he's just that obvious when he's town its a known fact

I tunneled Shado for two straight phases culminating in one of the absolute worst lynches I've ever seen a town center around because of how obvious he bled town

Freezin and I talked about how bad we felt (and sometimes didn't because we were piece of shit wolves) for Shado because he was playing not wolfy at all and was giving completely reasonable responses

he KNOWS I tunneled two players to death and calls it wolfy that I'm not tunneling on someone this phase.

L
O
L
W
O
L
V
E
S

asks me to comment then when I flip a fucking fruit cart he claims to be tired and not interested in responding to me tonight

I challenge anyone to find anything redeemable about these comments of Freezin's

hint
you won't be able to

even if he's town this is the worst case I've ever seen on someone since a read I'm not going to get into from DM

its terrible
literally 0/10

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yes it does

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I can't look at your case and call it townie
ever
because you don't get any basic facts right you're so caught up in your bullshit

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and here i am watching you blow up on the sidelines wishing you would take the advice you gave me a couple of hours ago...

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do I think its a coincidence that Freezin voted for me when I already had 2 votes and Haku was active and a known sheep?

no, I don't, thanks random person

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chill out dude

is THIS what ive been subjecting everyone to?

maybe thats why gradiant replaced out

im sorry gradiant

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you can't look at this and think this is wolfy
I would argue that I am literally incapable of being angry like this as a wolf, Charu will deny it but I predeny his denial

there is 0% this kind of response ever comes from a wolf and townfreezin should know that

I didn't say does because I don't know but unlike Yoshl I don't think you're shit, I think you care about the wrong shit a lot of the time and way too much about your image but like

you can't look at this and call this wolfy and be reassured that you're right on me, I don't think

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I want to put a vote on FreezinIce based mostly off of gut feeling after looking over the pages throughout the game. There's something about his posting style that alerts "shady guy in the crowd" in my head. This is just a placement vote till the morning though so I can see what transpires in the pages to come till I come back.

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get your cheap shots in, friend
you have about 20 hours to continue making them

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LOOK AT THIS DUDE
HIS GUT IS SMARTER THAN FREEZIN'S wolfBRAIN

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Woweee you all posted a shit ton in the small amount of time that I was writing that post dayumm.

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you made the right vote

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false dichotomy

your presenting two radically different viewpoints as the only options and assigning me to one of them and attacking it.

your presenting a really radical viewpoint as mine and its making me want to just tune you out.

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although if you want to be fair to your own point by all accounts your going to be tunneling me the rest of this phase.

so its some kind of disgusting self fulfilling prophecy

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maybe i should just thunderdome you, and if for some reason i lose and flip town youll die next phase.

except the little voice in my head is telling me thats how town lost last game so probably not a good idea

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you didn't know I was going to do that when you made that post
you couldn't have known it

give me SOMETHING redeemable and other people might not lynch you but I guarantee that when tomorrow comes and people are here you will get votes for this shit if you don't start trying to save face

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No, dude.
lightknight924, your only other post has been an excuse about your inactivity, and now a vote sheeping the (arguably) most widely scumread player here?
If you're playing, then play. A "placement vote" so you can "see what transpires" by morning as your second is literally bullshit.

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so am I town now?
another 180 we got a 360 folks lets see if he makes it to the fabled 1080

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this is what you comment on out of everything?
I've at least had some funny posts mixed in with the rage wtf dude

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Goodness, even I think you're going a bit hard about this, lol

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noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

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Excuse me...? Alright dude...

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can you tell me how you feel about #904 so I know whether or not you feel like his case on me is close to as bad as I say it is

I made it for you since you didn't remember what he was pushing on me for

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But I'm not going to dismiss that it was weird though. Like don't get me wrong, I find it mad sketch, and it certainly doesn't help that I think it goes back to the appeasing thing either.

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I didn't know you felt the same regarding appeasing
good to hear

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I didn't want to get involved because the more you post rn the better. I think you're going off a little too hard on Freezin tbh. I had him as top scum in my notes last night but he's had at least one post today that's made me reconsider.
Also his post saying you being in the background reminds him of recent wolfgames isn't as 0/10 as you think. I can see where he's coming from. Even when tunneling me, you didn't really push on me, you kind of called out stuff here and there and let other peeps do the dirty work for you. I don't agree with his conclusion on you, but I think you should consider building a backup wagon as well.

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yeah i know but it will be funny if it ends up like that

===

the problem is from the outside looking in your leaving me very little choice here.

like spoiler alert but everything i dig up from the previous thread is going to be opinions on your play. you defending and reasoning out the play of witch running in parallel to you defending and trying to reason out my play (talk about biting the hand that feeds you huh)
ill admit that the tunnel on dbp was something that definitely doesnt have a parallel today, and something i absolutely should have considered but forgot in light of looking only at the things that fit what i was thinking about at the time. When i asked for your reads and looked back and saw you didnt have anything strong i was reminded of wolfchat where you ran into the problem of clearing too many people and running out of people to push. That definitely happened the second day which runs more in parallel with my mindset when i was pushing on you.

but now im having second thoughts, maybe im wrong? But theres no good way to back off you because youve blown this out of proportion. if i back off you cold and find something scummy later its going to be almost impossible to push you again. ill also look bad for backing off no matter what because your entire case is predicated on me being a wolf instead of refuting my points. im kind of annoyed at you tbh

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I feel it's generic shit fling really.

And if he's comparing you to last game, then that's definitely lol worthy, because you were major active and major pushy last game. To say the opposite is wolfy too is pretty dumb, I agree.

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I was hard on you before AA was
when AA took over yes I took a backseat
but I absolutely stayed on you when I needed to

you can't say that there was anything remotely comparable in my game that far before freezin made the post that he did
not
even
close

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you did what i did earlier except its infinitely worse because you have gravitas and in your infinite wisdom youve seen fit to completely lose your mind.

ok

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WHAT IS THIS!?

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yeah ok
caring about how you're percieved
i'm done

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Like alright, losing the chance to push is... what?

Why would it be not possible to push later?

????????????

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I have no gravitas
or maybe I have some I only just now looked up the word and I'm still not sure exactly what it means THANKS GOOGLE

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Ehh idk about going hard on me, but I don't think it's relevant here. My point is that there's definitely worlds where he writes that shit and believes it as town, and that you should have a backup wagon.

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its not a push if nobody follows you

when people butt heads like this its easy to clear them both as town. its happpened more times than i can count. i guess im just paranoid that ill find something later and not be able to convince people of its merit

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shaddap

i care about how im percieved

im also town

MIND BLOWING BUT TRUE FACTS

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what
are
you
even
saying

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ok its 3 am fuck this
pce

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You definitely do. You can think of it as influence over others, or presence among others.
Saying sunfan has no presence undermines your entire TWG history lol

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everyone last game was completely unwilling to reconsider previous events from a different perspective.

Proph got heat then coasted the rest of the game

sunfan got heat then coasted the rest of the game

even though absolutely nothing changed, people were utterly unwilling to look at their behavior again with flips in mind and instead latched on to whatever was happening at the time.

call it a premonition but i dont trust people to revist sunfan later if i back away from him cold right now just because he yells a ton.

i want people's opinions on his interactions so far and his shifts in tone. i want them out where people can see them. i want everyone in this fucking thread to have a hot take on his play.

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same for me. everyone should have an opinion on me they can be held accountable for. that way if/when one of us flips, town can have some info to work with, they can have something to look back and point at and ask the question "why the fuck did you say this at that time??"

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@Freezin I think sunfan's pretty town tbh, but that depends on something... I think you can always revisit him later if you find something scummy, and if whatever you find is worth anything then people won't call you a flipflop. Progression of reads is natural, I don't think anyone really expects you to hold the same read forever.
Speaking of which, why did you go from calling out Charu as opportunistic and saying you could vote him all day to listing him as town in a matter of two posts? What caused your read to change?

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lets say THEORETICALLY i back away and just call this TvT and move on

sunfan drills me into the ground

i flip town

sunfan looks bad and maybe dies next day?

if hes town as well its the last game all over again

...


do you see now why im so fucking pissed you lost your cool???

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i realized the crux of my entire argument was one single post from him i didnt like (the haku objectively the best lynch post). his reasons for voting me i didnt agree with but it isnt a crime to throw your vote around.

pretty much i couldnt find anything he was doing that was scummy and could follow his arguments against me even if i didnt agree with them completely.

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Dude you've basically already said you think he's town. Just let it go if that's what you think. Stop worrying about what could end the game or whatever. We're still in D0.
Sunfan wont necessarily die just for mislynching you if you're town
Sunfan probably won't drill you into the ground if you back away and be productive elsewhere (if you're both town)
This isn't a thunderdome. It never was. Chill and be true to your reads

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i can and will flop and take different approaches in arguments and tone once i realize im wrong whats the point of arguing past then

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Cool. Was there anything specific that made you come to that realization?
What's making you start to see sunfan as town?

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yeah get over yourself dude next time you back off a read let me spend a few pages lambasting you about it

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@Sunfan

Do you have a read list?
Do you have any actual serious stances in this game?

If I was a wolf in this game, I wouldn't fear you at all as I normally do. I don't sense that "game solving element". I don't feel any serious attempt at getting the game somewhere.

I've read your iso. It's not "bad", but it's not outstanding either. FreezinIce seems to think he could be wrong and that's okay, but I believe you're worth pushing here because I need to figure out where you stand.

All that blabla since the "voting pressure" haven't convinced me in the least. That Lightknight vote is even weirder because I can't say that I trust the source with like 3 posts.

What's going on here?

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That's natural, despite people's obsession with showing progression. It does help town to try and make your progression more clear though, even if it's just one post saying "oh I just realized Charu could totes have a point and be saying this from a town perspective".

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haku ninjaing my post in progress stealing my points

bruh

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Spicy
N O C H I L L

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Hi Haku!
You certainly made last night interesting to read lolol

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hes yelling louder than me and i dont feel like arguing with him

unlike charu there IS something there that i think is scummy. i felt like the way he was hesitating on pushing people today reminded me of the 2nd to last day of the last game where he struggling to find people to push (i said this a couple of posts ago)

the similarities weigh on my mind but of course if the person is shouting really loudly at you back it kind of saps your motivation to continue that train of thought. especially when your not 100% sure on your read

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Are you going to write up a post to explain where you stand with "this circus" so far?

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this was a good response to my previous post that he was giving off the vibe of someone opportunistic.

this post was when i realized the entire basis of what i was arguing about was shaky. disagreeing with someone doesnt make them scum