Re: TWG 189: Funnygurl VS T-Force Rivalry GAME THREAD
 

This would be a foolish gambit to perform, I'm not even home right now.

Re: TWG 189: Funnygurl VS T-Force Rivalry GAME THREAD
 

I don't even know who is in this kitb

Re: TWG 189: Funnygurl VS T-Force Rivalry GAME THREAD
 

there's talk on this page about him wolfreading dbp and xel together, and people saying back "literally how can that be your proposed wolfteam" (especially xel), and then he mentioned that the reads were independent

idk, was thinking i could help with that a bit more

he's also asked about some acronyms and stuff, and i play associatives a lot but i haven't played in a while, so yeah

Re: TWG 189: Funnygurl VS T-Force Rivalry GAME THREAD
 

Xel v Zennith, thought kappa might be voting dbp

Re: TWG 189: Funnygurl VS T-Force Rivalry GAME THREAD
 

im not voting DBP if its going to be a three way kitb

Re: TWG 189: Funnygurl VS T-Force Rivalry GAME THREAD
 

And this is where I'm judgmental of psycho for Just Reading once again

Re: TWG 189: Funnygurl VS T-Force Rivalry GAME THREAD
 

believe this is still current, star

the bot broke because it's not tracking your unvote

Re: TWG 189: Funnygurl VS T-Force Rivalry GAME THREAD
 

Ill vote zenith as of now Zenith

Re: TWG 189: Funnygurl VS T-Force Rivalry GAME THREAD
 

From what I read, Xel is under scepticism

Star-Crossed is unanimously townread? The tone of having heavy influence on the phase is an interesting one but made me,feel like you're town.

Psycho seems non-committal with her recent posts.

InD is analyzing but also not committing

Re: TWG 189: Funnygurl VS T-Force Rivalry GAME THREAD
 

wait

Re: TWG 189: Funnygurl VS T-Force Rivalry GAME THREAD
 

Vote Count
XelNya- 2 (DaBackPack, Svaz)
_Zenith_ - 3 (inDheart, Chihiro Fujisaki, 123kappa3)
DaBackPack - 1 (psychoangel691)
123kappa3 - 1 (XelNya)

Day 1 ends at 10:00 PM Central Time. Votes count at 10:00PM. Not at 10:01

Re: TWG 189: Funnygurl VS T-Force Rivalry GAME THREAD
 

Re: TWG 189: Funnygurl VS T-Force Rivalry GAME THREAD
 

I am voting zenith but I am very fickle

Re: TWG 189: Funnygurl VS T-Force Rivalry GAME THREAD
 

huh that vote count isnt right

Re: TWG 189: Funnygurl VS T-Force Rivalry GAME THREAD
 

oh it was edited

Re: TWG 189: Funnygurl VS T-Force Rivalry GAME THREAD
 

Xel's big post is bad

he had two wolf reads since the start of the game and they never ever change all the way through the entire game page by page

Xelnya

the majority of it is fluff

there's a lot of stuff to say about it but not enough time but I'll try

Re: TWG 189: Funnygurl VS T-Force Rivalry GAME THREAD
 

Re: TWG 189: Funnygurl VS T-Force Rivalry GAME THREAD
 

wtf I hate this im not KITB unvote

Re: TWG 189: Funnygurl VS T-Force Rivalry GAME THREAD
 

listen to fg lol not me

i'm a little bothered by the xel voters not being current

Re: TWG 189: Funnygurl VS T-Force Rivalry GAME THREAD
 

Ind can we kill xel

Re: TWG 189: Funnygurl VS T-Force Rivalry GAME THREAD
 

oh there's one

Re: TWG 189: Funnygurl VS T-Force Rivalry GAME THREAD
 

OMg im so confused. Zenith I think this makes it 3-2

Re: TWG 189: Funnygurl VS T-Force Rivalry GAME THREAD
 

Kappa jesus Christ, please just pull it together lmao. Being so relunctant EoD is bad

Re: TWG 189: Funnygurl VS T-Force Rivalry GAME THREAD
 

Xel's master post is "completely blind" and yet the conclusions he pretends to draw from them are completely set in stone from the very beginning of his read-through

absolutely zero progression in his page-by-page analysis

Re: TWG 189: Funnygurl VS T-Force Rivalry GAME THREAD
 

Vote Count
XelNya- 2 (DaBackPack, Svaz)
_Zenith_ - 3 (inDheart, Chihiro Fujisaki, 123kappa3)
DaBackPack - 1 (psychoangel691)
123kappa3 - 1 (XelNya)

Day 1 ends at 10:00 PM Central Time. Votes count at 10:00PM. Not at 10:01

Re: TWG 189: Funnygurl VS T-Force Rivalry GAME THREAD
 

i guess

i feel like he wrote that post and threw his keyboard as far away as it could possibly go which isn't a great feeling

Re: TWG 189: Funnygurl VS T-Force Rivalry GAME THREAD
 

Hello, I'm the cop and I prefer you don't lynch me right now, thanks.

Re: TWG 189: Funnygurl VS T-Force Rivalry GAME THREAD
 

I'm in the middle of a stream so just going zenith

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Re: TWG 189: Funnygurl VS T-Force Rivalry GAME THREAD
 

I think xel is a hit

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Re: TWG 189: Funnygurl VS T-Force Rivalry GAME THREAD
 

hoboy

Re: TWG 189: Funnygurl VS T-Force Rivalry GAME THREAD
 

stop posting

Re: TWG 189: Funnygurl VS T-Force Rivalry GAME THREAD
 

Vote Count
XelNya- 5 (DaBackPack, Svaz, 123kappa3, inDheart, Chihiro Fujisaki)
_Zenith_ - 1 (psychoangel691)
123kappa3 - 1 (XelNya)

Lmk if this is wrong thanks. Otherwise ya girl's boutta flip

Re: TWG 189: Funnygurl VS T-Force Rivalry GAME THREAD
 

XelNya has been lynched. He was a.............



NIGHT 2 HAS BEGUN. NIGHT 2 WILL END AT 10:00 PM 09/08/2019.

Send me night actions!

Re: TWG 189: Funnygurl VS T-Force Rivalry GAME THREAD
 

pic of funnygurl and t-force at an2015:


FRIENDLY REMINDER

Re: TWG 189: Funnygurl VS T-Force Rivalry GAME THREAD
 

In the night...........

star-crossed has died. She was a....



DAY 2 HAS BEGUN. DAY 2 WILL END AT 10:00 PM ON 09/10

Re: TWG 189: Funnygurl VS T-Force Rivalry GAME THREAD
 

Re: TWG 189: Funnygurl VS T-Force Rivalry GAME THREAD
 

If only star-crossed died, does that mean I can keep posting? ;)

Best of luck everybody.

Re: TWG 189: Funnygurl VS T-Force Rivalry GAME THREAD
 

fuck this game

zenith, claim results if you have any

Re: TWG 189: Funnygurl VS T-Force Rivalry GAME THREAD
 

i'm like 90% sure dbp is a wolf now, town him doesn't skip out on the game to then claim he doesn't have the brain space to read 8 people, or the person i asked him about with <10 posts

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Hey sorry, I'm at work but I got hateandhatred as a wolf last night and Jessie got Shadow God as a town result, I'll give more when I'm not at work, apologies :(

Re: TWG 189: Funnygurl VS T-Force Rivalry GAME THREAD
 

hey, thanks for that

having a previous peek surprises me i guess but that's verging on things not to wonder about

Re: TWG 189: Funnygurl VS T-Force Rivalry GAME THREAD
 

it kinda just struck and then un-struck me about you having a peek with the roleblocker still in the game but i get it now

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After pontificating over the remaining players yesterday an h&h vote made sense, wanna say it helped to see a post from psycho angel about UTR wolves too

And I was honestly feeling a wolf dbp a few times already this game though really only Xel (rip) commented on it in any meaningful capacity and that was like a day or so after I made that post I think (or maybe it just felt that way, not gonna lie my perception of time was pretty impeded over the weekend)

I feel like Zenith is trustworthy here so I wanna go along with his vote, just seems rude to not hear from hnh first and voting too much right now is kinda risky given that, we’re in mylo right?

Re: TWG 189: Funnygurl VS T-Force Rivalry GAME THREAD
 

this is lylo

i'm not voting this early either, yes

there were a number of people feeling wolf dbp but i talked them off because i was being dumb and not considering what was developing right in front of me, and xel also gets to a dbp townread by the end of his big post

only thing that worries me about psycho saying that is the net would've also included zenith before claim, who she ended up voting

i do feel kinda validated for trying to circle the discussion back to h&h, at least

dbp's read on kappa, in its weirdness, could also be The Ultimate TMI and with that team, him trying to go deep would track

Re: TWG 189: Funnygurl VS T-Force Rivalry GAME THREAD
 

why doesnt wolf kill cop here?

Re: TWG 189: Funnygurl VS T-Force Rivalry GAME THREAD
 

wolves cannot, through the mechanics of the game at least, know who the watcher is last night, because they used their extra kill n1

if they don't have their ninja action available (i.e., they used it n1) or they assigned it to the "wrong" wolf in pregame, then they can't do anything to the cop because the watcher should pretty much always target the claimed cop and see what happens to them (whether that's a kill or a roleblock), and then assuming wolves can't find the watcher, we lynch who the watcher reports on

using ninja on one of the two n1 kills feels likely to me to not get owned

Re: TWG 189: Funnygurl VS T-Force Rivalry GAME THREAD
 

Vote Count

Hateandhatred - 1 (_Zenith_)

Re: TWG 189: Funnygurl VS T-Force Rivalry GAME THREAD
 

actually assigning it to the "wrong" wolf doesn't matter

it would have to be that the ninja actionw as burned already

Re: TWG 189: Funnygurl VS T-Force Rivalry GAME THREAD
 

Because I've been borderline inactive and trying to play the UTR card as to not draw attention until I got a red result, as best as I can explain my thought process with what I did.

Re: TWG 189: Funnygurl VS T-Force Rivalry GAME THREAD
 

kappa's question is kind of a natural one to ask given that you had your claim out

didn't really seem like it fazed svaz

Re: TWG 189: Funnygurl VS T-Force Rivalry GAME THREAD
 

I won't question the legitimacy of the questions/thoughts, but I can only explain my own perspective here.

Re: TWG 189: Funnygurl VS T-Force Rivalry GAME THREAD
 

no one's counterclaimed so it seems legit

we technically still don't know if there's a Miller alive since idk if the Miller flips miller or just VT

that said a red check is like 66% to be on a wolf so it still seems like our best shot

Re: TWG 189: Funnygurl VS T-Force Rivalry GAME THREAD
 

what?

I did reread HnH but Xel seemed like the best option at the time

it was wrong but it I don't feel bad about my read on his bad mega post

Re: TWG 189: Funnygurl VS T-Force Rivalry GAME THREAD
 

he had one large reads list, which by itself wasn't the worst, but it's the only reads post he gives in the entire game

there's a complete absence of progression just entirely which makes it difficult to read in the context of his larger play.

there's only one somewhat interesting thing in his posts but I'll let him speak first

Re: TWG 189: Funnygurl VS T-Force Rivalry GAME THREAD
 

H&H does seem like a likely wolf. But, if we are scared about H&H being miller we could just go on DBP. I think DBP is a wolve but, my reasoning seems like it could be poor town play. I still think DBP being wolve based on what ive seen is likely more likely then anything else at this point. (I also thnik Xel sucks and made this harder then it had to be for whatever reason).

Re: TWG 189: Funnygurl VS T-Force Rivalry GAME THREAD
 

Clarification

We are in MYLO; however, votes aren't locked in. You can switch your votes around however you want until phase end or if insta is reached.

Also, vote T-Force :(

Re: TWG 189: Funnygurl VS T-Force Rivalry GAME THREAD
 

the amount of "I think dbp is a top wolf" today despite the cop literally having a red check is pretty suspicious honestly

it reads like a potential diversion or a setup to protect hnh

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i mean, if you're somehow town then this is a fucking hilarious game to have after the one where you screamed about town throwing after you died, where i can just go search your posts and find seemingly 30x the insight and natural game curiosity in a single day than anything you've done here

i'd love to know why xel's bigpost was so egregious and how not having time to explain it outweighed your silent reading of everyone else that you're claiming you did in that like, hour span

Re: TWG 189: Funnygurl VS T-Force Rivalry GAME THREAD
 

also I know I said that T-Force vote might be good in this situation but given that we have a red check I don't see the utility of introducing a potential fuckup at the moment

Re: TWG 189: Funnygurl VS T-Force Rivalry GAME THREAD
 

But if we are in mylo doesnt that mean we lose if we misslynch again. Miller is a thing that should at least be discussed.

Re: TWG 189: Funnygurl VS T-Force Rivalry GAME THREAD
 

thanks for soft confing the cop?

the metatext around lynching means it's 67% incorrect to lynch you today anyway

why don't you want people to talk about worlds?

Re: TWG 189: Funnygurl VS T-Force Rivalry GAME THREAD
 

I just read through Xel's big post again because it's been mentioned several times now after the fact, and I had a lot of doubt because the structure is not his style in the slightest form but his comments are purely and objectively him, which is not indicative of his alignment. You never see Xel do this from the countless times I've played with him and the comments he makes about people is okay because it's him, but the tone is not right at all. I had and still have my suspicions towards Xel.

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i don't think i want to vote t-force today in case it makes a wolf like, a doublevoter or something

i'm amused by the idea of wolves nokilling after a lynch today

Re: TWG 189: Funnygurl VS T-Force Rivalry GAME THREAD
 

Yeah, I'm far too skeptical of the T-Force gimmick at this point after seeing someone get insta-killed after the first negative effect of someone having a +1 vote attached to them. I wouldn't recommend it.

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you know he's dead and flipped town right

just to be sure, you're saying it's the tone that he never does? can you pick out something(s) particular that feel way different? i can't tell what you're saying isn't in range for him

Re: TWG 189: Funnygurl VS T-Force Rivalry GAME THREAD
 

because xelnya was the most important person to talk about given my headspace???

Xel CLAIMED to start from the top of the game and read forward. He even gave reads on fucking Charu so we know this is true. He goes page-by-page which is a super bad look because it absolves him of providing holistic analyses. THE POST IS ALMOST ENTIRELY REACTIVE TO OTHER POSTS, THERE WAS HARDLY ANY SYNTHESIS OR HOLISTIC ANALYSIS. He replied to whatever the fuck he felt like.

All of that is fine if you detect a progression in his reads, since he was supposedly "starting from scratch " But there's no development!! His only wolf reads are reads he carried the entire time!! So what was the fucking point of doing a time-sequence analysis if every wolf read you have is retroactively justified post hoc? Why structure your reads in a time sequence and not actually EVOLVE unless you're using the time sequence as a way time artificially inflate your post??? That's what I didn't have time to say after reading that post.

what specifically about hnh are you so focused on? there's one recurring scumtell I've seen but based on current circumstances am not going to bring it up before he gets here

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"soft confing" the cop what??? nobody has counterclaimed and it's my operating assumption

It's not that talking about worlds is bad, it's that if three-four people all say the same thing it looks like a diversionary tactic

Re: TWG 189: Funnygurl VS T-Force Rivalry GAME THREAD
 

also

don't fucking compare me to that game

Re: TWG 189: Funnygurl VS T-Force Rivalry GAME THREAD
 

have you ever been happy with a xel bigpost in your life. i think he's near always picked and chosen what he wants to respond to

also he didn't "claim" to be "starting from scratch" anywhere, a reread doesn't imply a reset. you expecting meaningful time series data from d0 implies anything important happened on d0 as well

like, let's talk about grand twgabout for another catch-up example (he was wolf there) - after the fact i could go back and read his catch-up and thought it was more jokey and jabby than content-heavy, and so i thought i could try and read him on fluff/content divide there, but nah he just rolled town for a few games after that and it didn't work out because i couldn't really identify differences

(besides the turbo where i got him to sub into a wolf team that seemed dead from rand, but that may as well be a non-game, and don't recall him trying ot make a post like this)

also in iso it looks to me like he's posting thoughts while he compiles his bigpost, since i doubt he writes that all in the gap of time between posts, so of course he can reach back for observations he's making as he goes. this wasn't something i noticed at the time, probably because thread started moving faster so he could readily get more lost in the shuffle

and like, yes, i hate my decision to vote him in the end which is like part being a coward and part needing an immediate counter to the cop claim

i think seeing how his wolf reads come out in the end ignores the progressions he has to get to town on other people, like myself and you, so even if he winds up in the same place it's shoring up his confidence on other players. he definitely didn't have a stated read on me prior, and the way i read the "..." and "i'm not sure how i feel about this" suggests a divide in his read on you too

he does spend time identifying contradictions in kappa's posts, unless that's not the kind of higher-order thinking you're looking for; also there's two midway stops with a couple reads within the time series so there was at least stock taken at three points

like you don't need to lie and tell me things aren't there that are there and vice-versa, just say they aren't worth anything. i guess the word "almost" is doing a hell of a job in your all caps. as reactions go it just seems like you really hate time series

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and re: h&h, maybe i won't give away your tell if we really don't want to talk about it yet, but another aspect is a game-wide focus thing, being that i was told off looking at him 2 or 3 times and he's attracted few votes ever, even just for pressure

Re: TWG 189: Funnygurl VS T-Force Rivalry GAME THREAD
 

also

if you have a setup question, you know what to do

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there's a chance we both could use a minute to chill since i think some hyperbole is winning over rationality here

two people is not really a pile-on, i mentioned you before the cop claim, and svaz does talk about voting between h&h/zenith today in the same breath and the decision point there isn't really progressing in absence of h&h

i would rather talk with cooler heads because our exchange like this is when i feel emotionally worst about my posting and it sucks

Re: TWG 189: Funnygurl VS T-Force Rivalry GAME THREAD
 

I mean I do hate time series, it always seems lazy to me. I assumed that since he was doing a time-sequence and also that he gave reads on dead players it was a reset but that's an assumption. But Xelnya doesn't always do time series, he has games where he's actually more engaged and on-top of things

and sure xel picks and chooses things he wants to talk about but those are exactly the things he needs to be judged on. it's all we have. like what heuristics do we even have for him? I know how to generally play the game but xel consistently falls outside of "normal play" (no offense to him, a lot of times he is insightful in his own way)

I flat-out lost track of how to read him specifically but I did see a pattern of "many words, low evolution" which was scummy and at EoD was ringing alarm bells; your post-mortem in the above quote makes sense in the current context but weren't things on my mind at the time (certainly not comparing to prior games) and honestly read of hindsight bias.

I'm sorry I deferred your queries about HnH but I did what I thought was right given the circumstances. There is something I recently noticed but I'm not going to prime anybody before/if he arrives.

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that's fine but to clarify it was you, svaz, and Kappa and if you include HnH in there bc he's prolly gonna self-pres that's 4 people, enough for insta

maybe paranoia but that's just how it is

Re: TWG 189: Funnygurl VS T-Force Rivalry GAME THREAD
 

breadcrumbing, that was the word I was looking for

Re: TWG 189: Funnygurl VS T-Force Rivalry GAME THREAD
 

i thought you meant just mentions today but like

as mentioned it's the 33% world where we move off the already established pair

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& there's def hindsight in how i'm banging on about it today, but qualities of his bigposts are one of those mental frame things in my head and grand twgabout is a particularly memorable game in general for me, maybe because of the late nights

the only other game i've gone to look at during this one is the mad17 just a bit ago. i'd have gone and looked for meta on newer players but when i thought to do it, i already felt pressed for time and valued the live interaction