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Wayward Vagabond 06-4-2017 12:23 AM

Re: jTWG LXXXI I Got Nothin' Game Thread
 
nevermind i think you're referring to actual night and not in game night

Hakulyte 06-4-2017 12:24 AM

Re: jTWG LXXXI I Got Nothin' Game Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hateandhatred (Post 4557124)
I shouldn't need to. Give a long, hard thought to what I said tonight, and you'll understand EXACTLY what I'm doing.

The only scenario where this makes sense is if you're a power role and you got a information about a visit by Rapta on Xiz by example.

It's not worth it to soft claim stuff, if you got a wolf down, it's time to claim.

sanzath 06-4-2017 12:27 AM

Re: jTWG LXXXI I Got Nothin' Game Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hateandhatred (Post 4557124)
I shouldn't need to. Give a long, hard thought to what I said tonight, and you'll understand EXACTLY what I'm doing.

My read is you're a town PR convincing team Quebec you're not going to target them, when in reality that's exactly what you're doing.

sanzath 06-4-2017 12:29 AM

Re: jTWG LXXXI I Got Nothin' Game Thread
 
Alternatively you'd be watching everyone who's not Quebec, hoping a Quebec wolf only targets them.

Hateandhatred 06-4-2017 12:32 AM

Re: jTWG LXXXI I Got Nothin' Game Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Wayward Vagabond (Post 4557125)
uh yeah you did

I've already replied to sanz that I was merely listing possibilities.
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hakulyte (Post 4557127)
The only scenario where this makes sense is if you're a power role and you got a information about a visit by Rapta on Xiz by example.

It's not worth it to soft claim stuff, if you got a wolf down, it's time to claim.

Im gonna assume you figured it all out and are covering me. I won't be replying furthermore to your questions lol

Hakulyte 06-4-2017 12:35 AM

Re: jTWG LXXXI I Got Nothin' Game Thread
 
I'm considering mass claim atm in order to create a situation where we have 2 confirmed town players because of PRs for process of elimination.

We're currently 5:2 and having 2 confirmed PRs as town will make solving a lot easier if no PR actually have significant visits.

If you're a PR and your target visited no one, the likeliness of that person being town is also really high. There's only 50% chance you targeted the wrong wolf. The false positive is the other town PR. Mass claim would solve that for you.

I think with the XelNya wagon with Xiz solved we enough information to secure a wolf kill.

Hakulyte 06-4-2017 12:38 AM

Re: jTWG LXXXI I Got Nothin' Game Thread
 
Here's the joke.

Let's say you claim Tracker, you will never die by lynch unless someone else claims Tracker.

If that happens, we thunderdome you both and lynch the liar eventually who will technically flip wolf.

Hakulyte 06-4-2017 12:41 AM

Re: jTWG LXXXI I Got Nothin' Game Thread
 
I know that means the PRs will both die in the next 2 days, but the game will be over in 2 days anyway so, we may as well take the risk.

Hateandhatred 06-4-2017 12:41 AM

Re: jTWG LXXXI I Got Nothin' Game Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by sanzath (Post 4557128)
My read is you're a town PR convincing team Quebec you're not going to target them, when in reality that's exactly what you're doing.

I'd like to, but I can't possibly disprove that. However Ill just say that my strategy doesnt involve me being power town
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Originally Posted by sanzath (Post 4557129)
Alternatively you'd be watching everyone who's not Quebec, hoping a Quebec wolf only targets them.

Like I said, no power town involved. Im not saying I am not a power town, just saying that it's irrelevant.

However for the sake of argument, -IF- I am a power town, lynch Rapta. I already have two votes and it'd be a waste if I died

Hakulyte 06-4-2017 12:42 AM

Re: jTWG LXXXI I Got Nothin' Game Thread
 
H&H if you're PR say who you visited and what's your role.

You will die, but you will boost the chances of town winning at same time.

Hakulyte 06-4-2017 12:45 AM

Re: jTWG LXXXI I Got Nothin' Game Thread
 
@andy
@Wayward
@sanzath

Thoughts on strat?

Hakulyte 06-4-2017 12:49 AM

Re: jTWG LXXXI I Got Nothin' Game Thread
 
I currently think the wolf team is xXOpkillerXx/H&H.

Wayward Vagabond 06-4-2017 12:49 AM

Re: jTWG LXXXI I Got Nothin' Game Thread
 
so pr's claim and that gives up two days to figure out who the wolfs are right?

Hakulyte 06-4-2017 12:51 AM

Re: jTWG LXXXI I Got Nothin' Game Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Wayward Vagabond (Post 4557140)
so pr's claim and that gives up two days to figure out who the wolfs are right?

Yeah, there's 2 chances left.

We can afford to mess up once if a counterclaim goes wrong and force a wolf kill.

If there's no counterclaim, it means the PRs are both town and should be off the table until the end of the game.

If you know you're town, that means there's only 2 wolves + 2 other town left to evaluate.

If you add the information of the visits + the wagon, that may solve 1-2 players.

This looks really good on paper imo.

Wayward Vagabond 06-4-2017 12:55 AM

Re: jTWG LXXXI I Got Nothin' Game Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hakulyte (Post 4557139)
I currently think the wolf team is xXOpkillerXx/H&H.

curious as to why opk

Wayward Vagabond 06-4-2017 12:56 AM

Re: jTWG LXXXI I Got Nothin' Game Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hakulyte (Post 4557141)
Yeah, there's 2 chances left.

We can afford to mess up once if a counterclaim goes wrong and force a wolf kill.

If there's no counterclaim, it means the PRs are both town and should be off the table until the end of the game.

If you know you're town, that means there's only 2 wolves + 2 other town left to evaluate.

If you add the information of the visits + the wagon, that may solve 1-2 players.

This looks really good on paper imo.

the only thing i'm worried about is having prs claim and having one of them visit their immune wolf potentially leaving them off the table until it's too late

sanzath 06-4-2017 12:56 AM

Re: jTWG LXXXI I Got Nothin' Game Thread
 
I want to believe hatred is a town who's playing weird. I also think he has nothing on Rapta, because if he did, I think he would have claimed at this point. That doesn't eliminate Rapta as a suspect of course. It also doesn't make him not a PR.

@Haku I'd like to hear more about your opkiller read, seeing as he hasn't looked at the thread during d1 at all.

Hakulyte 06-4-2017 12:57 AM

Re: jTWG LXXXI I Got Nothin' Game Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Wayward Vagabond (Post 4557142)
curious as to why opk

He spent the entire game asking questions.

Normally this is towny, but if you examine his questions, you will realize that it's more distancing himself from the game than actually making him care about solving it.

Iso him.

Hakulyte 06-4-2017 01:01 AM

Re: jTWG LXXXI I Got Nothin' Game Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by xXOpkillerXx (Post 4556735)
XelNya

This is also really weird because he spent the game pushing me and straight up voted XelNya without reasoning.

Wayward Vagabond 06-4-2017 01:02 AM

Re: jTWG LXXXI I Got Nothin' Game Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by xXOpkillerXx (Post 4556564)
What does this even mean ? :)

What are those tags and are there any other tags like that ?

How should I react to such a post ? jk

Is this the right place to ask those ?

Am I free to think Sven is a wolf ?

Will this last statement make me a target, for who ?

!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hakulyte (Post 4557145)
He spent the entire game asking questions.

Normally this is towny, but if you examine his questions, you will realize that it's more distancing himself from the game than actually making him care about solving it.

Iso him.

this is the only posts that really bugged me for the reason you mentioned. the rest of his posts/questions just seem like shitposting which pretty much everyone was doing.


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