Resort the song difficulties?

[lord_carbo]

The difficulty levels in this game, just like with FFR R1, are pretty off. Maybe not as drastic as R1, but it still needs some improvement. Here's what I think the song difficulties should really be, IMHO.


8
For FFR
Lovely Lovely Lovely

7
Oceans of Time
Ub3r R4vE
State of Emergency

6
Dot Death
Go Go Power Rangers
Sneakman

5
Trip to the Moon
Cutting Circles
Error -System Remix-
Ravers Fantasy -Speedy-
KlungKlung 2004

4
Error
MoonBeam

3
Balloon Fever
Delirium

2
Secret Zombie Room
Force of Light

1
End Night
Super Mario Remix
Platypus


For each tier, the hardest of the tier is at the top, just like the list for FFR R1.

I pretty much combined 1 and 2 to make room for what really should be the highest. I mean, For FFR and LLL are definitely on a higher tier than Ub3r R4ve and State of Emergency. I also did some other much needed sorting.

Anyone agree/disagree with anything?

[Hawbs]

That looks about right.
Power Rangers might be able to stay in 7 though.

[pokelda]

SZR a 2!?!? no. no! NO!

[lord_carbo]

That looks about right.
Power Rangers might be able to stay in 7 though.
Cutting Circles, IMHO, is about the same as Power Rangers, and both are pretty suited for the same class, which would be lower than Oceans of Time and Ub4r R4v3 and SoE.


SZR a 2!?!? no. no! NO!
Play Delirium. Now play SZR. Delirium is obviously higher than SZR -_-

[darkchao56]

I don't think SZR should be down in the twos... I feel as though its a little mis-sorted here. State of Emergency is an easy eight, although I do think that sneakman should be lowered to a 7.

I'm sure we'll consider changing some of the song difficulties soon. Right now, our priority would be making more songs available on the game.

[lord_carbo]

I don't think SZR should be down in the twos... I feel as though its a little mis-sorted here. State of Emergency is an easy eight, although I do think that sneakman should be lowered to a 7.

I'm sure we'll consider changing some of the song difficulties soon. Right now, our priority would be making more songs available on the game.
Stop looking at things as 8's and 7's and 3's in 2's as they are in their current state. Instead, look at them as 8 normal, 'ol sections. In fact, the main reason why I did this was to emphasize the flaw that the system wasn't really poorly ordered as much as it was poorly divvied out (1 and 2 are both about the same difficulty despite End Night being faster... both are really easy to score extremely high on, when in contrast, the songs in 8 are poorly distributed, they're just the songs that are flat out hard).

Believe it or not, but SZR is easy as pie compared to most of these songs. It's definitely really really low.

I pretty much dropped everything a rank and kept For FFR and LLL up in 8 because they're CLEARLY the two hardest songs by FAR. SZR is definitely an easy song, lower than Delirium.

Here, look at it like this: A list of every song with the hardest at the top and the easiest at the bottom (yes, I did play every song at least once to judge this in one sitting... some, which were really close to others, such as KlungKlung and Ravers Fantasy, I played more than once to make sure I had a good order down):
For FFR
Lovely Lovely Lovely
Oceans of Time
Ub3r R4vE
State of Emergency
Dot Death
Go Go Power Rangers
Sneakman
Trip to the Moon
Cutting Circles
Error -System Remix-
Ravers Fantasy -Speedy-
KlungKlung 2004
Error
MoonBeam
Balloon Fever
Delirium
Secret Zombie Room
Force of Light
End Night
Super Mario Remix
Platypus
NOW tell me where you disagree with it. Probably in a few areas, you'll say one song should be above another, but nothing drastic, probably a mix 'n' match for a few songs that are next to eachother at the most.

Now divide these into 8 sections which shows songs that are similar in difficulty next to songs that are in the same section and songs with huge leaps in difficulty are in different sections. You'll get something similar to my list.

That's exactly what I did, and that's exactly how it should be done.

[GamerShadow]

I can't deny that Mario and Platypus are extremely easy, but I can't say anything about the others, i've just started playing.

There should be a Official SIU difficulties thread, like the one for R1. (The only thing missing is a few uber SIU players who can argue about these things.)

[lord_carbo]

Well I wouldn't say I'm uber, but I've gotten 80+ on everything except For FFR and Oceans of Time, which are total bitches lmao.

[Lipidman]

I don't think so =P *gloats at 90% Oceans of Time*

But I agree with your list completely. Except for me Power Rangers is harder than Dot Death XD

[Hawbs]

I have a great idea. I can't do this right now because I am at work, but I'll jump on it when I get home.

How about we take the averages of the highscores for each song? Then we'll have a very good idea on which songs are actually harder than others.

[Hawbs]

I went ahead and calculated the average highscores really fast. I didn't go back to double check my work. I didn't take into account the decimals simply because it would have taken way too much time. Although I don't quite agree with it, this is what I came up with.


*** DIFFICULTY 1 ***
Platypus 99
Mario Remix 98.9

*** DIFFICULTY 2 ***
End Night 98.4

*** DIFFICULTY 3 ***
Delirium 97.3

*** DIFFICULTY 4 ***
Secret Zombie Room 97.9

*** DIFFICULTY 5 ***
MoonBeam 96.5
Error 96.4
Balloon Fever 97.4

*** DIFFICULTY 6 ***
Trip to the Moon 96.1
Ravers Fantasy -Speedy- 96.0
Error -System Remix- 97.0
KlungKung 2004 96.1
Cutting Circles 95.8

*** DIFFICULTY 7 ***
Go Go Power Rangers 94.4
Oceans of Time 86.6
Dot Death 93.8

*** DIFFICULTY 8 ***
Ub3R R4vE 94.2
Sneakman 93.2
For FFR 81.3
State of Emergency 96.1
Lovely Lovely Lovely 92.2


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*** FROM EASY TO HARD ***

99.0 Platypus
98.9 Mario Remix
98.4 End Night
97.9 Secret Zombie Room
97.4 Balloon Fever
97.3 Delirium
97.0 Error -System Remix-
96.5 MoonBeam
96.4 Error
96.1 Trip to the Moon
96.1 KlungKung 2004
96.1 State of Emergency
96.0 Ravers Fantasy -Speedy-
95.8 Cutting Circles
94.4 Go Go Power Rangers
94.2 Ub3R R4vE
93.8 Dot Death
93.2 Sneakman
92.2 Lovely Lovely Lovely
86.6 Oceans of Time
81.3 For FFR


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*** DIFFICULTY BRACKETS ***

-Difficulty 1-
99.0 Platypus
98.9 Mario Remix
98.4 End Night

-Difficulty 2-
97.9 Secret Zombie Room
97.4 Balloon Fever
97.3 Delirium
97.0 Error -System Remix-

-Difficulty 3-
96.5 MoonBeam
96.4 Error

-Difficulty 4-
96.1 Trip to the Moon
96.1 KlungKung 2004
96.1 State of Emergency
96.0 Ravers Fantasy -Speedy-

-Difficulty 5-
95.8 Cutting Circles

-Difficulty 6-
94.4 Go Go Power Rangers
94.2 Ub3R R4vE

-Difficulty 7-
93.8 Dot Death
93.2 Sneakman
92.2 Lovely Lovely Lovely

-Difficulty 8-
86.6 Oceans of Time
81.3 For FFR


Of course I'm sure that there are flaws in this theory.
1: I took into account EVERY highscore even though I feel getting 99+ percent on certain songs is unrealistic.
2. Some songs are definately played more than others.
3. It's probably unfair that I only consider *HIGH*scores. In reality I should also consider average and below average scores.

Regardless of the holes in this experiment it is still a useful tool in showing us difficulties of the songs. I hope I didn't waste my time. =]

[lord_carbo]

Pretty good list, I wouldn't mind that either.

I'll have to check out Error and Error -System Remix- again, I might have done that poorly. =/

The thing with Oceans of Time is that it's just cheap and requires an amazing video card, which I don't sport. Other than that, it's way too basic to be up that high, IMHO. My FPS really drops when playing it, but I could probably do okay if it wasn't for that. Basically it just requires good luck =(

And Sneakman, eeeeehhhhh, shouldn't be that high. Cmon guys, go play it! =)
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But you don't agree with it anyway, purely statistical minus your divisions.