Another R2 Question

[Bahamut-X]

On the song select screen, what does all the air, voltage, stream, and freeze stuff mean? I've never played DDR or SM so I wouldn't know.

[lightdarkness]

They are telling you how intense the song is.

It's all math within the stepfile, I'm sure someone can give a better deffinition than I can.

[Tasselfoot]

stream = constant runs in the song
air = doubles in the song
freeze = freezes in the song
chaos = how chaotic the notes are, not streamlike
voltage = not sure.

[RisqR2]

stream = constant runs in the song
air = doubles in the song
freeze = freezes in the song
chaos = how chaotic the notes are, not streamlike
voltage = not sure.
Voltage = 8th 16ths or 32nds I believe (Basicly speed.)

[jimerax]

A song that is just full of 16th streams is shown as the MAX chaos.
so, I think chaos means how many the song has arrows except 8th(red and blue).

[Tank101]

Actually, I think Voltage is based on the most dense part of the song.

In other words, if you have a song with nothing but easy steps the whole time, but then a quick 3 seconds of 64th notes, the voltage would be all the way up, while everything else wouldn't.

[JenovaSephiroth]

Voltage is the number of notes in a current song. MAX 300 on heavy definitely has more voltage than Gimme your Love on light. Problem solved.

[GregHead]

Actually, I think Voltage is based on the most dense part of the song.

In other words, if you have a song with nothing but easy steps the whole time, but then a quick 3 seconds of 64th notes, the voltage would be all the way up, while everything else wouldn't.

^ Right Answer ^

I don't know for sure, but I read an FAQ somewhere that it said it's the densest the song appears in any given screenshot (1X arrow speed presumably). But voltage definately measures the "most dense" part of the song. Says that right in the DDR manuals.

[GregHead]

A song that is just full of 16th streams is shown as the MAX chaos.
so, I think chaos means how many the song has arrows except 8th(red and blue).

I think blue is worth more than red, but yellow is worth more than both of them, and then others like purple (1/12), green(1/32), and cyan(1/24?) have lots of chaos (I think they have more anyway).

Basically a song with an abnormal and/or hard to read rythm (ie Bag in DDR) will have lots of chaos, while somehting comprised of 1/4 and 1/8 beats like Maxx Unlimited will have very low chaos despite being hard.

[RisqR2]

A song that is just full of 16th streams is shown as the MAX chaos.
so, I think chaos means how many the song has arrows except 8th(red and blue).

I think blue is worth more than red, but yellow is worth more than both of them, and then others like purple (1/12), green(1/32), and cyan(1/24?) have lots of chaos (I think they have more anyway).

Basically a song with an abnormal and/or hard to read rythm (ie Bag in DDR) will have lots of chaos, while somehting comprised of 1/4 and 1/8 beats like Maxx Unlimited will have very low chaos despite being hard.
Double posting the devil.
On topic: I think its about the rhythm of the beats.
Example in order from least chaos to most.
4th Stream
8th Stream
16 Stream
32nd Stream
12th Stream
24th Stream

If you look at Bag's note pattern its not one steady stream but an assortment of different notes (32nds and 48ths I think?).

[soccr743]

Nobody is 100% sure of how Konami made their groove radar calculator. Aperson did some tests in Stepmania for R2 and sent me some formulas that seemed to work decently... However not even stepmania is sure of how Konami does it....

-----Soccr743-----

[eVILPeeR]

SM does a very close replication of Konami's groove radar. But here's basically what I know..
Stream = If you have a 16th stream that lasts the entire song, this would be maxed out. If you had an entire song with just 4th notes it would not be maxed out, so the longer the length between arrows the less it contributes to this value.
Voltage = Uh.. I don't know. Never figured this one out.. but it's related to stream.
Freeze = How many freeze arrows compared to the other arrows (Note: 16th freeze streams are considered chaos AND freeze AND stream).
Air = The amount of doubles in a song, in other words for DDR terms "jumps" because hitting two arrows at once requires you to jump.
Chaos = The amount of notes there are besides 4th and 8th notes. The type of note does not matter, as long as it's not exactly on a half beat or full beat.

[noviceanimeartist]

I think voltage depends on how many arrows or steps are in the entire song. I agree with everything else though.

[Moogy]

Voltage is the proportion of steps to the song's length.

[sleeplessdragn]

i think voltage has to do with something in the combos. if you fc a song you max out the voltage but if you break the combo only once, it says you only completed something like half the voltage.

[Squeek]

I've heard that Voltage is the most intense part of the song.

I just tested it and that seems to be the case.

Stream = amount of notes thrown together in a set. Like, 8th notes are a stream until there's a missing note or you include a 16th. You get it.
Voltage = Most extreme stream.
Chaos = Amount of notes that aren't 8th/4th in comparison to those that are 8th/4th. Does not mean a single 8th/4th note lowers it to being below maximum.
Freeze = Freeze note proportionate to amount of other notes.
Air = Doubles / triples / quads proportionate to amount of other notes.

I think that's it.

~Squeek