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nelohalo
November 29th, 2004, 12:13 AM
i'm aware of the neccessity to fix the other bugs first, but can a time frame be given of when i will be able to actually play the game with reverse scroll

and please don't say 'when we get to it', something like in two weeks or whatever

and the original game isn't updating credits or ranks anymore

space_boye
November 29th, 2004, 12:16 AM
and please don't say 'when we get to it'

When Synthlight is done with it.

ok.

-bye

flypie743
November 29th, 2004, 06:18 AM
Soccr doesn't like to put time frames on things. So...when we get to it.

nelohalo
November 29th, 2004, 12:16 PM
two replies that both include the one phrase that i specifically said to avoid

ffr still isn't updating

flypie743
November 29th, 2004, 02:22 PM
Well, they both include that response because it is the only answer. Soccr doesn't put time frames on things, so tough. Either it's that answer or no answer.

RisqR2
November 29th, 2004, 05:17 PM
When the main engine is actually finished.

nelohalo
November 30th, 2004, 01:46 AM
i'm not into the whole programming thing, why is it difficult to put an option to reverse the direction of arrows, is it not an easy thing to do?

and yeah, i would have appreciated you not answering rather than give me that vagueness



so frustrating not being able to play this the way i can, everyone that plays reverse feels my pain

RisqR2
November 30th, 2004, 02:41 PM
i'm not into the whole programming thing, why is it difficult to put an option to reverse the direction of arrows, is it not an easy thing to do?

and yeah, i would have appreciated you not answering rather than give me that vagueness



so frustrating not being able to play this the way i can, everyone that plays reverse feels my pain
Uhh let me see.
1. You have to change the X,Y position of every arrow
2. You need to add about 15 more variables
3. You have to change the ENTIRE way the scroll works,.
4. You have to actually script it.
5. Its hard to add something in when the main core of it isn't even finished.

Tank101
November 30th, 2004, 02:46 PM
Plus they're working on about 100 different things. Plus they have lives.

Blox
November 30th, 2004, 02:54 PM
Well I would think the arrows would only need changes in the y axis, but yeah, like previously mentioned more variables would have to be created (for example to disable certain things that standard scroll would do so it doesn't try running both ways at once), the variable scroll amount of everything would have to either contain an opposite value or be set to follow or go in a different path depending on how it is set up now... all in all it would take awhile to do.

Now, mind you, the change wouldn't take like MASSIVE OMG amounts of times but even if it would only take a little over an hour then that is a little over an hour's worth of time that could be spent on fixing the minor faults the game engine presents already.

Think of it like building a house. Sure, you could add on another room, but wouldn't it be better to go and fill in the missing bricks that aren't there first?

As a reverse player myself I feel your frustration, but you have to consider that we are not the majority of the FFR world and that what is being done now is in favor of everybody on a more general level. I recognize and understand the need to get the stepfiles to run perfect standardly before making them run in reverse.

RisqR2
November 30th, 2004, 03:32 PM
Well I would think the arrows would only need changes in the y axis, but yeah, like previously mentioned more variables would have to be created (for example to disable certain things that standard scroll would do so it doesn't try running both ways at once), the variable scroll amount of everything would have to either contain an opposite value or be set to follow or go in a different path depending on how it is set up now... all in all it would take awhile to do.

Now, mind you, the change wouldn't take like MASSIVE OMG amounts of times but even if it would only take a little over an hour then that is a little over an hour's worth of time that could be spent on fixing the minor faults the game engine presents already.

Think of it like building a house. Sure, you could add on another room, but wouldn't it be better to go and fill in the missing bricks that aren't there first?

As a reverse player myself I feel your frustration, but you have to consider that we are not the majority of the FFR world and that what is being done now is in favor of everybody on a more general level. I recognize and understand the need to get the stepfiles to run perfect standardly before making them run in reverse.
Spoken wisely.

nelohalo
November 30th, 2004, 09:21 PM
good thing risqr2 quoted me, nobody would have known what he was referring to


rabble rabble rabble

RisqR2
December 1st, 2004, 01:04 PM
good thing risqr2 quoted me, nobody would have known what he was referring to


rabble rabble rabble
I've been misinterpretted before because I didn't say who I was directing the comment to so stfu, loser.

Loyal2Death
December 1st, 2004, 02:27 PM
Neo, you truly asre looking to pick a fight with all those trying to help you out. You asked for an answer, you've received one. Fact is, Reverse scroll does require work, and since it has become apparent that certqain people dislike putting a time frame because of the possible consequences of not MEETING that time frame there is left to be only one answer.

Now if nobody had come out and said it, you'd still be clueless, and you'd more or less be bumping this post up still asking why OR replying in other statements about things such as this.

It's over. Reverse Scroll is more than likely the next thing to come out. Have patience.

~-[L2D]-~

RisqR2
December 1st, 2004, 03:22 PM
Neo, you truly asre looking to pick a fight with all those trying to help you out. You asked for an answer, you've received one. Fact is, Reverse scroll does require work, and since it has become apparent that certqain people dislike putting a time frame because of the possible consequences of not MEETING that time frame there is left to be only one answer.

Now if nobody had come out and said it, you'd still be clueless, and you'd more or less be bumping this post up still asking why OR replying in other statements about things such as this.

It's over. Reverse Scroll is more than likely the next thing to come out. Have patience.

~-[L2D]-~
I wonder if most reverse players are as retarded as nelo.

Kilgamayan
December 1st, 2004, 03:36 PM
Hey, watch it, CStar plays reverse.

blahblah18
December 1st, 2004, 04:08 PM
I smell a fight... 3:1 odds for kilga dominating all bringers.... any takers?

deposition
December 1st, 2004, 04:33 PM
Just turn you monitor upside down if you really care lol9olol111

emccky
December 1st, 2004, 05:50 PM
shut the **** up, reverse needs to be implemented.

RisqR2
December 1st, 2004, 07:03 PM
shut the $*%# up, reverse needs to be implemented.
Lay off, learn to take a god damn joke asshat.

Musical_Master
December 1st, 2004, 07:04 PM
Just turn you monitor upside down if you really care lol9olol111

GG

That made me laugh.

RisqR2
December 1st, 2004, 07:06 PM
Just turn you monitor upside down if you really care lol9olol111

GG

That made me laugh.
Same, people like someone I won't mention named emccky need to quit being so uptight at times.

Loyal2Death
December 2nd, 2004, 05:44 AM
Even though you would then need a Mirror type of option if one were to do that. So you best be damn good to pull off opposites in your head :-p.(referring to the monitor upsidedown joke).

Risq, i never said Reverse players are retarded. Far from that, infact i praise them for learning how to play the game in a way that few people rarely venture into until they hit the heavy stages. However, i just don't understand why some don't take the time to try and learn standard.

~-[L2D]-~

nelohalo
December 7th, 2004, 02:46 PM
wow, been how long and still no reverse

at least ffr updates credits and such again

back to stepmania

Kilgamayan
December 7th, 2004, 02:57 PM
It's been just a little over a week.

And half that time Synth has been not here for something that's just a tad more important, y'know?

flypie743
December 7th, 2004, 02:58 PM
Just be patient. (@ nelohalo)

Trunkx3
December 7th, 2004, 05:11 PM
here's what you gotta do:

Dont play any flash flash game for like 2 years. Forget taht it even exists (hence no problem is present) then after a few years, something will spark in your mind *HEY! FFR WAS GREAT, I WONDER HOW R2 IS COMMn' ALONG!!* then you can check and it will be all dandy from there.

p.s. all time frames do is dissapoint, dont ask for one, just pretend that it wont be done until jan. 2006, THEN when it is finished in about a month or more it will seem like a HUGE suprise that it finished so quickly ;)

Enigma-7
December 29th, 2004, 04:39 PM
Just turn you monitor upside down if you really care lol9olol111
Exactly what iw as thinking for a while.
Reverse players, i know, It's not comfortable to play without reverse, but be patient and it will be there soon.

nelohalo
December 30th, 2004, 04:14 PM
anyone want to take bets on how many more months it takes for reverse to make its presence known?

i say march earliest

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Bahamut-X
December 30th, 2004, 06:46 PM
anyone want to take bets on how many more months it takes for reverse to make its presence known?

i say march earliest

ste
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nia

Stop bitching about this stupid topic. It won't make reverse come any quicker.

nelohalo
December 31st, 2004, 11:56 AM
you sound like an intelligent person

MonkeyFoo
December 31st, 2004, 08:08 PM
Haha and I'm wearing pants! I guess that means it's time to lock this...

blahblah18
January 4th, 2005, 12:39 AM
depo already gave a brilliant suggestian in a diff topic on how to get reverse if you really want it.. go search for it.. peace

PsYcHoZeRoSk8eR
January 5th, 2005, 03:19 PM
deposition wrote:
Just turn you monitor upside down if you really care lol9olol111

Loyal2Death
Even though you would then need a Mirror type of option if one were to do that. So you best be damn good to pull off opposites in your head :-p.(referring to the monitor upsidedown joke).

Here's an idea, turn your monitor upside down and flip your keyboard around and there. good as new

snickers411
January 5th, 2005, 06:11 PM
you people have waaaayyy too much time on your hands.....

nelohalo
January 16th, 2005, 06:32 PM
looks like i'm still on pace to win the bet

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flypie743
January 16th, 2005, 07:17 PM
looks like i'm still on pace to win the bet

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Good, go play stepmania and leave.

emccky
January 16th, 2005, 07:20 PM
so it's been a while and still no reverse.

flypie743
January 16th, 2005, 08:26 PM
so it's been a while and still no reverse.

Good observation, Captain Obvious.

fenixflamefox
January 17th, 2005, 02:13 AM
Not all reverse players suck, just the stupid ones. Problem solved. ^^ Frankly, I'm quite content with standard scrolling arrows, if they WEREN'T SO UGLY AND STUPID AND OMGROFLZWTF. Wait...

I'm going back to bed now.

nelohalo
January 18th, 2005, 02:19 PM
flypie is gettin upset


i remember someone writing it would take like an hour to implement. even if it took five, you would think they would have it done by now, what with the extreme amount of time passing and all.

V3

flypie743
January 18th, 2005, 03:51 PM
flypie is gettin upset


i remember someone writing it would take like an hour to implement. even if it took five, you would think they would have it done by now, what with the extreme amount of time passing and all.

V3

Soccr has a life, too. I would know.

nelohalo
January 20th, 2005, 11:37 PM
i'm not even going to calculate the number of hours that have passed from when r2 was released to now. nobody has that much on their plate.

i am mainly keeping this going out of pure spite towards flypie743 and his always responding to my posts

steeeeeeeeepmania

Kilgamayan
January 20th, 2005, 11:39 PM
Flypie is a girl and you won't be keeping this going for much longer.

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January 20th, 2005, 11:44 PM
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