r2 isnt what I thought it would be...

[dsadsadsa]

To me, ffr r2 is just like a little better version of ffr... Stepmania is still a lot better. First of all, the arrows still dont go as smooth as sm, and there arent anywhere near as much options.

[emccky]

It's been out for 50 minutes.

[Rebirth0]

I know its not what I wished it would be, but do you have any clue of how much coding and computer work that took? Its amazing for a flash internet game, you can't find anything this good on the internet without downloading anything.

[TheReaper2]

y can't i play each song more than once

[chardish]

This is why it's called a "beta."

[Chromer]

Thats really ungrateful coming from someone who joined earlier this year. Be thankful its even out jerk.

[Lain_Iwakura]

Go to hell dsa. I haven't had one SPECK OR REMNANT of a problem even after playing through each song of R2 on heavy. Like you have room to bash something that Synth and his staff have worked fervently on for a long while.

[iopq]

R2 is stepmania in flash
I thought it was going to be FFR

[Chromer]

R2 = Development for over a year. Hello!?

[Synthlight]

iopq,

Did you happen to see the demo video that has been out for a couple months?

Also the smoothness of playback is tied to a great number of factors in your system. As an exe it pulls 124fps on my machine locally. In a browser you have limits. You are also limited when you cannot use DirectX, C++ or even Directdraw.

Factors Factors Factors.. Public Beta Version 1

Cheers,

Synthlight

[SyperDeath69]

Also this is the first couple hours it has been up... remember the first days of ffr1...(well i wasnt but it was probably pretty bad : / )

i kno synth and his staff will add some sweet stuff to it

also, some stuff that is on the game but you cant access it like:

1)charaters in the option menu (UPLOAD CHARACTERS!)
2)double,challenge, online versus
3)Personal songs
4)and ALOT more that i forgot

and there will be other add ons to0. I truely think this is a great start for r2

good job Synth! :)

[iopq]

it still has a DDR interface
I liked the FFR one

Now I have to turn the speed way up to make it go at the same speed as FFR
I can't even beat levels at 2x
I need 3x minimum
Getting 60 FPS

and no I didn't see the demo

[Patricoo]

It, in effect...loses originality points do to the sudden Stepmania clone look...
And it seemingly feels wierd...but it's a feeling I'll get used to. (same feeling I had to change for Frequency and Amplitude) I really hate those steam arrows.

Otherwise it's awesome. The only things I could complain about would be twarted with the words "beta version." Don't take my frivolous complaints harshly....(spelling sucky!) it's too awesome for words.

[TheDancingBoy]

To me, ffr r2 is just like a little better version of ffr... Stepmania is still a lot better. First of all, the arrows still dont go as smooth as sm, and there arent anywhere near as much options.


WTF.... What did you expect R2 to be like? Jesus, all these games (dwi, SM, ffr etc) are ALL clones of DDR, and R2 is SO much closer to it than ffr was. Don't get me wrong, i liked ffr, but always played SM much more over it. Now however, this seems a much more likely thing to play, especially when online vs comes into play. I'll still play SM more, but i really don't get why your complaining... the arrows run fine on me, its a BETA version so of course there aren't going to be as many options...

Seems like your complaining for the sake of complaining

[iopq]

The original FFR was what some people preferred. Of course you don't know what we're complaining about because you like SM better.

[jimerax]

It looks pretty good, as good as SM.
But still laggy, it says 64fps but like 15-20fps in my feeling.
My PC isn't especially slow at all.

[CypherToorima]

bah, shucks to iopq. So what you have to speed it up to x3? you say that like it's a major hassle.

[pLyRzSpAwN]

All I have to say the ffr team worked hard, and I like it. I really don't see how someone can say "this sucks" when they've worked on it for over a year. I've been waiting for R2 to be released and I'm glad to say I'm disappointed.

~pLyRz

[nintendorules]

This is why it's called a "beta."
yea, beta!

[Eyes_Rutherford]

I know its a beta and all but I have one problem. The whole game plays fine for me but the only flaw is that there is no music and I put my speakers all the way up and checked my computer and there still is no sound can someone help me?

[hideokojima]

I think they have done a great job!

[DJRiDDeR-R2]

they have done a great Job, and on the plus side Mine looks like its running at 60 and not 15 - 20, But usually 100, and mine is almost as smooth as sm.

[zildjian133]

I think it is exceptionally good for BETA 1, will you guys make an exe? If you do it'll have all the advantages of SM.

[emccky]

I have absolutely no problem with lag, i get a constand 95 FPS.

[Cenright]

Great, Awesome. I know what you had to do to get this going, Synth, and the sheer amount of hours spent on it.

Now people, why don't we all be helpful and just work with what we have at the moment. About a year ago, FFR1 was in about the same stages. Yes, it had less bugs, but the complexity was no where near R2.

You dont believe me? Go to download section at the top right (FFR Files) and download the old FFR version.

[Tommy_dude_0]

I really would have rather waited longer for a more polished release.

I don't want a DDR clone. FFR was great because it wasn't DDR. I also don't like opening Windows calculator to figure out what speed settings I should use (C400, kthxbi). Bugs with songs? Should have been fixed before release.

I also am annoyed by the whole "pushing Flash to it's limits" thing. If it runs slowly in FF, it is too much.

If I wanted a DDR clone, I would play StepMania. FFR was cool because of exclusive songs and it was simple. It was really fairly different from DDR. R2=ARGH... 2. (hahahaha pun)

[flypie743]

R2 is not a DDR Clone. It looks like DDR, but it has and will have features that will set it apart. A lot of ideas people had were things they had seen in SM and DDR. Everyone wanted a song wheel, different difficulty levels for each song, etc.

The bugs are in the simfiles. There was a problem with some of the simfiles in R2. This was a last-minute problem and we did all we could to fix it, however the only way to get R2 released on time with working sims was to get rid of some of the difficultly levels and add them in when there was more time to fix them.

FF is not good with flash. IE would be the better choice to run anything made in flash.

[QreepyBORIS]

And about the song wheel, even FFR beta .48 and below had a song wheel of sorts.

[Tommy_dude_0]

R2 is not a DDR Clone. It looks like DDR, but it has and will have features that will set it apart. A lot of ideas people had were things they had seen in SM and DDR. Everyone wanted a song wheel, different difficulty levels for each song, etc.


Uh, wait. Everyone? Different difficulties didn't work IMO, are there even any level ones for the n00bs?



however the only way to get R2 released on time with working sims

I think it was released 12:01 CST. PWNED!
Seriously, I don't care about release dates. I care more about decent games. A day or two more isn't so bad. We've been waiting two years, right?


FF is not good with flash. IE would be the better choice to run anything made in flash.

I'll give you that one, though I never have any problems with flash...

BONUS CRAP OMG:

These are some funny quotes from peeps about R2. I don't want to offend anyone in these quotes.

aperson on why Skor's Euromorroc was used instead of Toph's:
"He had AWESOME light and beginner steps."
[BTW: They kept Toph's graphics with no credit]

Arch0wl about R2:

This is a definite improvement to the old FFR. This is like comparing Oprah now to Oprah when she was huge. Now unless you have a fat fetish, new Oprah beasts all over old Oprah. However, those wanting a more polished keyboard mashing experience should download the Keyboard Mega Pack.

I don't agree with him, but good quote.

[flypie743]

Uh, wait. Everyone? Different difficulties didn't work IMO, are there even any level ones for the n00bs?

Beginner/Light


I think it was released 12:01 CST. PWNED!
Seriously, I don't care about release dates. I care more about decent games. A day or two more isn't so bad. We've been waiting two years, right?

Wow, you really PWNED me...

The difficulties will be added back with time. And it was better for people to play it then to make them wait. Chit Chat was going crazy XD.

I'll give you that one, though I never have any problems with flash...

K.



aperson on why Skor's Euromorroc was used instead of Toph's:
"He had AWESOME light and beginner steps."
[BTW: They kept Toph's graphics with no credit]

Maybe aperson has other reasons for choosing Skor's Euromorroc. There will be credit given for graphics soon, Toph's name will be included.


This is a definite improvement to the old FFR. This is like comparing Oprah now to Oprah when she was huge. Now unless you have a fat fetish, new Oprah beasts all over old Oprah. However, those wanting a more polished keyboard mashing experience should download the Keyboard Mega Pack.

I don't agree with him, but good quote.


It is a definite improvement from the old FFR.

[Tommy_dude_0]

I said LEVEL ONES. As in ONE FOOT.

And the PWNED was a joke. Duh.

[flypie743]

And 2 feet difficulties are that much harder? And there is a level one difficulty-Tribal Revival, Beginner. GG doing your research.

Saying PWNED still makes you sound idiotic.

[Jello]

The game is a definite improvement on the graphics standpoint. Old ffr is about the same in terms of lagginess for me. But thats because i run a 1.5 ghz. Only problem ive got with it, is that the stepfile i made has no heavy (which i understand was a problem that needed to be done to get the game up) and the standards missing steps in random places. Every song is offsync.

I know that in the future these problems will be fixed.. so hopefully they will.

SM is better then r2 only because its run on C++ and it uses the video card to render everything...

R2 uses flash, and uses purely the processor. So its harder for me to compare the two when i run on a crappy machine like this :/. But after all the bugs are fixed.. im sure someone with a 3.0 ghz machine will consider r2 better then stepmania.

I look forward to seeing a bug free r2. That way i wont have to load SM all the time, and i can play it from anywhere!!

Thank you synth.

[gilbertguy]

Me personally... my opinion... i was expecting something unique... something that FFR could call theirs... (aside from FFR and all the others being like DDR)... this to me is too much like SM... i started playing FFR first... then i got SM... I still perfered FFR cause it was more of a challenge... SM is a challenge too (sometimes even more so) but... now FFR is set it up to where you can jst let things slide a little bit... I remember working on little songs jst so you could get up to the better... faster... harder... awsome songs... now... it jst seems... bleh... The one thing i really like is the speed change... Its much funner on something 4X i dont know y...
Sry synth... i jst kinda like the FFR version way better... I know it took FOREVER to get all the coding an such down and perfect... i think that it kicks a$$ n all... its still fun... but... Its not original... its not... FFR :?

[flypie743]

its not... FFR

That's because it's R2.

[Tommy_dude_0]

i think that it kicks a$$ n all... its still fun... but... Its not original... its not... FFR :?

My point exactly. Minus the triple periods.

[CypherToorima]

Guess what guys. FFR is still friggin up and running. Did you guys not hear Synth when he said "They will GROW along side each other. R2 IS NOT replacing FFR'. Jesus, if you want FFR, play FFR. Stop bitching about this stupid crap. Let's cry because they put in years of work but didn't make it to what I wanted it to be. sure there are bugs but it's the first friggin beta. We have a bug report for a reason, but you guys are just whining because it wasn't exactly what you wanted. boo-friggin-hoo

Sit down and be grateful.

ggnorm

[gilbertguy]

Guess what guys. FFR is still friggin up and running. Did you guys not hear Synth when he said "They will GROW along side each other. R2 IS NOT replacing FFR'. Jesus, if you want FFR, play FFR. Stop bitching about this stupid crap. Let's cry because they put in years of work but didn't make it to what I wanted it to be. sure there are bugs but it's the first friggin beta. We have a bug report for a reason, but you guys are just whining because it wasn't exactly what you wanted. boo-friggin-hoo

Sit down and be grateful.

Dude what i ment was... ill still be playing FFR not R2... i was expecting somethin New... not something copied... Something completely different that hasnt shown up yet... This is way to much like SM... i want it more like FFR (not the old one... you get wat im saying)
I am sitting and i am grateful! i never said i wasnt... I like R2... jst not as much as FFR... R2 is good... FFR is much better though...

[banditcom]

Guess what guys. FFR is still friggin up and running. Did you guys not hear Synth when he said "They will GROW along side each other. R2 IS NOT replacing FFR'. Jesus, if you want FFR, play FFR. Stop bitching about this stupid crap. Let's cry because they put in years of work but didn't make it to what I wanted it to be. sure there are bugs but it's the first friggin beta. We have a bug report for a reason, but you guys are just whining because it wasn't exactly what you wanted. boo-friggin-hoo

Sit down and be grateful.

Dude what i ment was... ill still be playing FFR not R2... i was expecting somethin New... not something copied... Something completely different that hasnt shown up yet... This is way to much like SM... i want it more like FFR (not the old one... you get wat im saying)
I am sitting and i am grateful! i never said i wasnt... I like R2... jst not as much as FFR... R2 is good... FFR is much better though...

The outer may look similar to SM and such, but it's going in a different direction than SM. Read what Synth wrote:

Working on it guys.. Getting there... Soccr is now asleep. He had been working on it since 6am. Make sure you send him a thanks.

Ok.. Just to clear up a few things about R2 vs SM (this issue was mentioned in another thread and I am too lazy to go find it).

This is a matter of apples and oranges. Each has their strengths.

I have however considered this.. The first beta release of R2 is going to show the new face of where we are going and what we are looking to accomplish. I don't plan on being so secretive about the upcoming features of R2 either. And.. Believe me when I say that I have heard and consider both the suggestions of players and the current features in games like DDR or Stepmania.

In the next few versions of R2 we will be working towards these features.. and yes you can already see some of the interface being prepped for it.

Editing your own stepfiles online and saving them so that you can play them anywhere.
Uploading noteskins and possibly R2 skins to your profile.
Very intuitive java socket connection multiplayer possibly with "auto-matching" based on rank.
Uploading stepfiles and mp3 files to your "profile" from your local drive
Stepfile trading between accounts

I think that should be enough to wet your appetite's. It isn't often that I ever talk about my plans.

Give us time.. Time is really the key. The big hump is out of the way with the first revision R2 engine being built. Think of where FFR was at during the first version. Think of Stepmania's first beta and then realize that R2 is in it's first public revision tonight.

Cheers,

Synthlight

[gamesk8er]

omg synth is a god...i want all those right now!!! well not really i just mean that they'll kick ass. I just want more songs :). R2 is better than FFR. You have to look past the bugs and realize what this will eventually become. I played FFR first, then got SM and I still play both because of the online-ness of FFR and the ability to get random funny songs on SM (yay for hardware store by weird al). With R2, i can do BOTH those things AT THE SAME TIME!!!! omg this is gonna rock! Just keep throwing out new songs and PLEASE GOD GIVE US ARCADE SONGS!! Synth pwns all!

[CypherToorima]

Bah, sorry for exploding there, I just get sorta angry when people complain about R2. Everyone is entitled to their opinions, I suppose.

[Chromer]

Its ironic hearing you people complain about R2 when you were all the same ones complaining that it didnt come out fast enough. Didn't get that? Read the first sentence again. Now if you all had programmed a game based off of DDR in Flash language that is better than R2 than you can complain and point out its faults. Until then, shut up and be happy, n00bs. Another thing. Hasn't anyone noticed that most of the ones complaining just joined this year?

[oscarf31]

when do u guys think online vs. will b out for r2?

[Bahamut-X]

DON'T BUMP DEAD TOPICS NOOB

[deposition]

im sure someone with a 3.0 ghz machine will consider r2 better then stepmania


3.2 Ghz max fps is 64. Downloaded it's a whole new game with the fps much higher, much more like SM except with a higher judge and less options and every song offsync.

[flypie743]

when do u guys think online vs. will b out for r2?

Patience.

[iopq]

Its ironic hearing you people complain about R2 when you were all the same ones complaining that it didnt come out fast enough. Didn't get that? Read the first sentence again. Now if you all had programmed a game based off of DDR in Flash language that is better than R2 than you can complain and point out its faults. Until then, shut up and be happy, n00bs. Another thing. Hasn't anyone noticed that most of the ones complaining just joined this year?
I joined in 2004
k thx

[Afrobean]

Chromer said "most". That doesn't mean all.

Now, please, don't bump any more threads.

[Maxthesimpson]

I fully agree, in order to get marvelous and perfect you need to hit the arrows a little off from the music, it's definitely not even close to as smooth as Stepmania. I hope they make it better.

[Columbian_Gold]

wow that is weird... you are saying that on a 3.2 ghz machine, it runs 64 FPS, but on my 1.2 ghz 128 MB ram P3 it runs 100 FPS, so thats like twilight zone weirdness... :lol:

O and btw all you R2 smashers out there, dont smash R2 its just a first release beta, ANY first beta version is gonna be not polished enough,
go get a first beta version of SM or FFR and youll see what i mean, right now, even in its first release, R2 is way more ploshed than FFR or SM was while they were 1st beta, so i think Synth and the rest of the development team did an excellent job on this.

KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK R2 DEV TEAM!!! :D

[Figgy20000]

R2's heavy songs are way to filled with jumps. Take a look at the groove radar... PLEASE put in some origional stepcharts!

[Columbian_Gold]

Its ironic hearing you people complain about R2 when you were all the same ones complaining that it didnt come out fast enough. Didn't get that? Read the first sentence again. Now if you all had programmed a game based off of DDR in Flash language that is better than R2 than you can complain and point out its faults. Until then, shut up and be happy, n00bs. Another thing. Hasn't anyone noticed that most of the ones complaining just joined this year?

yea really, you people who are criticizing R2 really need to shut up, its a first release... its not perfect, its not TRYING to be perfect(not now at least 8) ), ok?
The easiest way to find all the bugs and problems is to release a beta and have the players test it and post in bug report threads, if you like ffr original and SM so much, YOU DONT HAVE TO PLAY R2
This is a HUGE flash undertaking, its gonna take some time to iron out the kinks so be PATIENT! im content to wait for the bugs to be fixed as long as they are fixed right, if you rush perfection youll just mess it up.

Just sit down somewhere and wait for them to fix it, you can only fix bugs so fast, it is difficult to find what causes them and it is difficult to rewrite the code so the bug is fixed and then you have to look at the whole game again to make sure that the fix didnt cause any more bugs.

SO QUIT YER SNIVELING AND WHINING YOU N00BS!

[Saturos]

SO QUIT YER SNIVELING AND WHINING YOU N00BS!
Wow.

This was posted back in November when R2 first came out, and YOU were the one who bumped this back up in the first place.

Good job.

[Kilgamayan]

What the hell, don't bump dead topics.

thread go DIES